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Old September 10th, 2004, 19:17   #1
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Default Been doin\' some thinking

Everyone have a look at this site..

It's more or less a website of a collection of links people have found elsewhere.

So perhaps instead of posting entire articles in a posting, maybe just reference the article via a link. Seems like articles get posted here, then google sees the complete article and then I'm hosting content for the entire open internet.

I think at least 30Gb of the normal 100Gb of bandwidth this website uses is little more than other aviation websites linking in to read an entire article posted on jetcareers. It doesn't add any more content, but once the googlebot hits the site, good lord, now I'm hosting material for the DNC, RNC, ATA, Air Nairobi, that 'girl who's putting her virginity on eBay' et al.

See an interesting article? Post the link, but when you cut-n-paste copyrighted material in it's entirety, I'm not too sure I'm happy with being a 'mirror site' for the world.

I really don't mind the search engines trolling the forums for data, but when most of the referals jetcareers have been receiving have been for political discussions, news articles and about nothing else, it gets annoying... and expensive

So post the link not the article.

Great Example for saving Doug bandwidth: Article

Great Example of Jetcareers becoming a 'mirror site': News Article

And no offense to people that were involved in either.
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Old September 10th, 2004, 19:45   #2
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Hey why'd i have to be the negative example?

j/k [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 19:57   #3
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Default Re: Been doin\' some thinking

Well, after the Hurricane "Francis" thing last week ate about a month's worth of bandwidth, I discovered that other websites were starting to point to the forums for other full articles like refugees on a UNICEF truck.

So it was either adjust the 'ROBOTS.TXT' file to exclude the forum directory from the search engines and lose a lot of relevant links or just say "Hey folks, there's a better way to go about this".
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Old September 10th, 2004, 20:00   #4
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You should pin this up at the top for awhile...so everyone gets a chance to read it before it gets lost in the forums.
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Old September 10th, 2004, 20:02   #5
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Probably so!

If my web hosting provider decides to 'enforce the rules', it's going to be a mighty pricey month! Gotta find more advertisers!
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Old September 10th, 2004, 20:48   #6
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I was surprised you didn't kill the "Hurricane Francis" thread right off the bat... Yeah, yeah, it brought in lots and lots of lurkers, but as you can see, 99.5% of them went away after the event (Frances was gone) so your ROI (Return On Investment) for the excess bandwidth probably was no where close to what it will (or could) cost you...

This is such a specialized site that an average person isn't going to sign up or click throught to your specialized advertisers if they end up here on accident (while searching for "Hurricane Francis")...

I've hosted enough web site to know that a spike in lurkers doesn't usually turn into any type of real return (except for excessive bandwidth usage and potential site slowdowns for your regular users)...
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Old September 10th, 2004, 20:49   #7
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FalconCapt, good lord man can I make a statement without your standard contradiction at least once this week?

Gesh!

I need to go tinkle, is that ok? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 21:32   #8
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I need to go tinkle, is that ok? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Just make sure you wash your hands...ok [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 21:33   #9
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Absolutely!

I'm a 'clean hand' freak anyway.

(No Doug, you're not a clean hand freak, you just wash your hands a lot)
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Old September 10th, 2004, 21:54   #10
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There's a girl putting her virginity on ebay? What's that link? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 22:08   #11
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Default Re: Been doin\' some thinking

What is this thinking thing you're talking about? I'm unfamiliar with it.
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Old September 10th, 2004, 22:26   #12
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Default Re: Been doin\' some thinking

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I need to go tinkle, is that ok? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Just make sure you wash your hands...ok [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Now, I'm one to question such thinking. If you take a shower in the morning and get dressed, drive to work and handle a thousand things that thousands have touched, I'd say that it's better to wash your hands BEFORE you tinkle....

My hands are the dirty part. My yoke is pretty clean at that point....

My yoke...I'm good. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 22:31   #13
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FalconCapt, good lord man can I make a statement without your standard contradiction at least once this week?

Gesh!

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Wow, aren't we getting testy... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Still waiting for the reply to the PM that I sent you in response to the multiple PM's you sent me...

BTW, I could have said "I TOLD you to take down the "Hurricane Francis" thread", but Noooo... "We like Lurkers, their good for business" is what I was told... Now you guys are complaining about all the bandwidth usage!!! Talk about a contradiction! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 22:32   #14
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I'd say that it's better to wash your hands BEFORE you tinkle....


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Note to self, do not shake hands with Lloyd at the JC event unless he uses a handiwipe in front of you.
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Old September 10th, 2004, 22:46   #15
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And I'm still waiting for permission to go wizz too!
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Old September 10th, 2004, 23:21   #16
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And I'm still waiting for permission to go wizz too!

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Well... Call up Mommy and ask her! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img]
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Old September 10th, 2004, 23:23   #17
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*sigh*, what's the point.
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Old September 10th, 2004, 23:40   #18
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FalconCapt, good lord man can I make a statement without your standard contradiction at least once this week?

Gesh!

I need to go tinkle, is that ok? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Eh, I wondered the same thing, Doug.
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Old September 10th, 2004, 23:54   #19
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Eh, I wondered the same thing, Doug.

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Why would you want to know if Doug's allowed to go tinkle?
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Old September 10th, 2004, 23:59   #20
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What p!sses me off is people who go into a bathroom, spend 20 minutes washing there hands, THEN use the toilet, then "wash" their hands again with water only ( no soap).
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Old September 11th, 2004, 00:01   #21
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I'd say that it's better to wash your hands BEFORE you tinkle....


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Note to self, do not shake hands with Lloyd at the JC event unless he uses a handiwipe in front of you.

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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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What p!sses me off is people who go into a bathroom, spend 20 minutes washing there hands, THEN use the toilet, then "wash" their hands again with water only ( no soap).

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What's wrong with that [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


joking, just joking [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Well there IS that joke about the Air Force officer and the Marine enlisted going to the bathroom...

The Marine whips it out, urinates and starts to leave the room without washing his hands.

The Air Force officer looks over and snidely says, 'That's why we Air Force people refer to you Marines as Grunts. In the Air Force, they teach us to wash our HANDS after we mitricate"

The Marine stops, snaps around and says, "That's great, captain, but in the Marines, they teach us to AIM".
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FalconCapt, good lord man can I make a statement without your standard contradiction at least once this week?

Gesh!

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Wow, aren't we getting testy... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Still waiting for the reply to the PM that I sent you in response to the multiple PM's you sent me...

BTW, I could have said "I TOLD you to take down the "Hurricane Francis" thread", but Noooo... "We like Lurkers, their good for business" is what I was told... Now you guys are complaining about all the bandwidth usage!!! Talk about a contradiction! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]I think you misunderstood the original thread... the bandwidth has to deal with people linking to the site.. lurkers aren't the main concern and really don't affect the bandwidth.. but when we put full articles into the thread, google links onto that which brings the lurkers.. and the lurkers in turn link to the thread showing the entire article instead of linking to the origin of the original article.. that's where the bandwidth comes into play...

lurkers are not a problem but direct article linking from other sites can become a problem and slow the processing of the server down.

does that explain a little more? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Well there IS that joke about the Air Force officer and the Marine enlisted going to the bathroom...

The Marine whips it out, urinates and starts to leave the room without washing his hands.

The Air Force officer looks over and snidely says, 'That's why we Air Force people refer to you Marines as Grunts. In the Air Force, they teach us to wash our HANDS after we mitricate"

The Marine stops, snaps around and says, "That's great, captain, but in the Marines, they teach us to AIM".

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

There's a few jokes along those same line :

A Marine and an Air Force....whatever they call them....walk into the head at the same time. They each step up to their respective urinal and proceed to do their business. Once they're done, the Air Force...guy....heads over to the sink while the Marine heads for the door.

The Air Force guy smirks and tells the Marine, "In the Air Force, they teach us how to be clean and wash our hands after we urinate."

The Marine smirks right back and says, without missing a beat, "In the Marine Corps, they teach us not to pi$$ on our hands".

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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