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Old September 9th, 2004, 16:00   #1
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Not too sure where to put this post, so I'll put it here. For those of you up-and-coming pilots, in due time you'll appreciate those who heed my advice. For corporate pilots, I feel your pain. For cargo guys, oh how I wish I had your seat. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Smilecrunch.gif[/img]

At my airline, there are no cleaners who come on board the aircraft during turns to collect trash, clean up the floor and aisles, and straighten seatbelts. At many other regionals and some majors / nationals, the same holds true. Who then, you ask, cleans up the mess?

You're reading his thoughts right now.

One of these days, hopefully soon, I'll post a pic of what the aftermath of a scheduled leg looks like. Until then, please please please give all of your trash to the flight attendants as they're passing through, or at the latest as you're deplaning. We, the flight crews, are more often than not doubling as the cleaning crew, and there's no pay for this service. We do not come to your office and leave our lunch all over your floor, so please do not do the same to our speedy cubicle.

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Old September 9th, 2004, 16:06   #2
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I know what your talking about. Airplanes are a mess when a flight is over. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
 
Old September 9th, 2004, 16:14   #3
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People think it's like the movies or something! Please place all trash in the recepticals provided!

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Old September 9th, 2004, 16:14   #4
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Cleannig a 19-passenger plane sucked on a 10-minute turn. I certainly couldn't imagine how bad it is on a 50 or 70 passenger airplane...
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Old September 9th, 2004, 16:18   #5
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I had no idea you guys had to clean up peoples trash...Thats BS!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old September 9th, 2004, 16:34   #6
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I had no idea you guys had to clean up peoples trash...Thats BS!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Oh man, newspapers, sick sacks with everything from vomit, poop, urine. Half eaten sandwiches smashed into the seat back pocket, boogers on seatbacks, hypodermic needles, snotty kleenex, soiled 'women's products' -- you name it! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

...and the seat belts better be crossed and the the seatback better be in order (safety card THEN sick sack THEN magazine) or else! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Loooooads of fun.

Oh, and they were too cheap to give us plastic bags or garbage cans near the aircraft, I had to carry all of that stuff across the ramp and into the terminal.
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Old September 9th, 2004, 16:52   #7
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Man...so much to look forward to. Terrible pay, poor job security, and now janitorial duties! I can't wait! I knew college would pay off one day! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

anybody remember the number for Truckmasters [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Truckmasters? Come on bro, cleaning up sick sacks can't be as bad as becoming a 'meth' junkie and getting harassed by truck stop prostitutes during your mandated rest period!
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yeah...but you get to use sweet CB/jargon and wear those cool trucker caps [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old September 9th, 2004, 17:06   #10
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Damn. I'm thinking more and more about flying boxes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old September 9th, 2004, 17:09   #11
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Damn. I'm thinking more and more about flying boxes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Boxes or execs. The rest of you can have your unwashed masses. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old September 9th, 2004, 17:25   #12
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The airlines certainly have become the "Greyhound of the Skies" if not worse.

"Airline" on A&E (or whatever the channel is) isn't even 5%!
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Old September 9th, 2004, 17:50   #13
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Damn. I'm thinking more and more about flying boxes. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Boxes or execs. The rest of you can have your unwashed masses. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Execs? HA!

In my measly 200 hours of flying charter in a King Air, I can honestly say that "execs" are just as messy...if not messier, than "non-execs".

The best trips were the prison trips. Quick turns, good food, prisoners never spoke, guards were mad cool, and they even kept the airplane in reasonably nice shape after getting off. Best of all, they'd usually feed us their extra catering.

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Old September 9th, 2004, 18:16   #14
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Execs? HA!

In my measly 200 hours of flying charter in a King Air, I can honestly say that "execs" are just as messy...if not messier, than "non-execs".

The best trips were the prison trips. Quick turns, good food, prisoners never spoke, guards were mad cool, and they even kept the airplane in reasonably nice shape after getting off. Best of all, they'd usually feed us their extra catering.

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I'll take execs over unwashed masses anyday. And boxes over execs. And if Bureau of Prisons wants to hire me to fly cons around, I ain't gonna turn them down. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old September 9th, 2004, 18:23   #15
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It should be a simple matter of decency and respect . . . guess it's not so simple.

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The best trips were the prison trips. Quick turns, good food, prisoners never spoke, guards were mad cool

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How nervous did you get flying prisoners, any? Any doubt seap into your mind about just how well shackled the guy/girl was?
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Old September 9th, 2004, 18:27   #16
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There are prisoners riding amongst you on commercial airliners far more than you think! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I've flown lots. Heck, once we had a officer board an aircraft and pick up a fugitive that had escaped bail by buying a last minute ticket out of state.

Can't run from Johnny Law!
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Old September 9th, 2004, 18:32   #17
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After a JetBlue flight, I just started cleaning everything within about a 20 foot radius of myself after everyone else deplaned. I straightened up the seatbelts and everything. Then the flight attendants looked at me funny and the pilot laughed at me...lol So then I left...oops, guess I felt too much at home! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old September 9th, 2004, 18:42   #18
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How nervous did you get flying prisoners, any? Any doubt seap into your mind about just how well shackled the guy/girl was?

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Not really. The very first time, it was a little un-nerving seeing 3 unmarked cars and guards with shotguns surrounding the plane while we were shutting down, but we got used to it.

Never really worried in flight...except one trip where the guy kept getting up to go to the potty. He'd ask the guard, they'd get up, and he'd stand back there for what seemed like forever. Then he'd do it again...all the way to RST.

They were always well-shackled and the guards were big (and armed). A lot of times (actually every time going to RST- home of the Mayo Clinic), the prisoners were sick or injured. Not always though.

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Old September 9th, 2004, 19:11   #19
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Cleannig a 19-passenger plane sucked on a 10-minute turn. I certainly couldn't imagine how bad it is on a 50 or 70 passenger airplane...

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Aww, I've cleaned a whole 88 by myself many times. It ain't that bad.
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Old September 9th, 2004, 19:14   #20
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Must have had some clean passengers.

I'm solely in the 'yeah, it's pretty skanky' group.
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Old September 9th, 2004, 19:31   #21
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At Eagle we had to clean the plane on turns of less than 30 minutes.

It sucked.

We'd find all sorts of interesting things. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Old September 9th, 2004, 19:38   #22
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We'd find all sorts of interesting things. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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We'll all have to have a "What's the nastiest damned thing you've found while cleaning the cabin" at Network JC.
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It's amusing to watch the crew trying to clean the aircraft as we're on initial decent, sometimes bucking around and lurching... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img] I wish it was that fun to clean the house...
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Old September 9th, 2004, 20:47   #24
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I am now in school to become an airline pilot. My school will be flying be 1900's as soon as the ground school and IOE are done. I have heard about cleaning everything that is humanly possible in the pax section of the 1900. BUT I tell everyone come with me to work, I am a critical care RN, most recently working ICU. You want to talk about some of the nastiest products on Earth to clean. I am not looking forward to cleaning the 1900 but at least I do not have to roll a 350 pound patient to do it. Now, getting my 6 foot 4 inch frame between the seats to clean is the challenge!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]
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My school will be flying be 1900's as soon as the ground school and IOE are done.

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Here it comes! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]
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