Sidesticks

[flyhigh]

What are the advantages of having a sidestick in the cockpit?

[MikeD]

more legroom.

[danielsexton]

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more legroom.

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Hey, what happened to that nice signature? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Has anyone here ever flown in a sidestick aircraft with the exception of MikeD and A300Capt?

[project7]

Sure, the Cirrus have 'em.

[mastermags]

Flew my uncle's homebuilt.

[John]

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Has anyone here ever flown in a sidestick aircraft with the exception of MikeD and A300Capt?

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Flown? I wish.
Flown in one? Yes, and the captain told me all about the sidestick it was a J6 A320 it was nice.

[jdflight]

Yeah, I've flown a Cirrus and an F16 sim. It's nicely ergonomic. Takes a little getting used to, but it's fairly easy to transition. Best advantage I saw was that it suddenly wasn't in the way of instruments.

[mastermags]

Ah yes, forgot about flying the F-22 Sim... sidestick as well [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

[maxVT]

Last I knew A300s had yokes....

[C650CPT]

I flew Cobras ( U.S. Army Attack Helicopter ) for a couple of years, the front seat had a side stick. The cyclic in a helicopter is very sensative and the side stick was ultra sensative with a ratio of something like 10:1. ie: move the front side stick one inch got an equal reaction as if you moved the rear stick 10 inches. You just thought what you wanted the helicopter to do and it followed. The reason for the side stick installation was the front seat was the gunner's station and the Telescopic Sight Unit took up quite a bit of the front cockpit ... I mean pilot station.

Jim

[kellwolf]

I actually thought the sidestick on the Cirrus was a lot more intuitive than a yoke. First stick I flew was a Citabria, and I was surprised at how easy that felt. The nice thing about the Cirrus is you can rest your arm on something other than your leg.

[RiddlePilot]

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I actually thought the sidestick on the Cirrus was a lot more intuitive than a yoke. First stick I flew was a Citabria, and I was surprised at how easy that felt. The nice thing about the Cirrus is you can rest your arm on something other than your leg.

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Yeah, the stick in the Citabria feels great. I like a more sensitive control feel for VFR ops, and that one made for very nice flying.

[mastermags]

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I actually thought the sidestick on the Cirrus was a lot more intuitive than a yoke. First stick I flew was a Citabria, and I was surprised at how easy that felt. The nice thing about the Cirrus is you can rest your arm on something other than your leg.

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Yeah, the stick in the Citabria feels great. I like a more sensitive control feel for VFR ops, and that one made for very nice flying.

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Thought we were talking about side sticks? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Flew the SR-22 a couple of weeks ago for the first time and it was very natural. Beats the hell out of the conventional set up IMHO.

[I_Money]

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more legroom.

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And it is cheaper, think of the fuel costs of flying 2 yokes around the world. If you consider flying a can of soda around for a month costs $3 in fuel; think how much a yoke weighs, times that by 2, and then times that by the size of the fleet. It gets expsensive quickly!

[MarineNav]

It's easier to scratch those certain itches! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif[/img]

JR

[Doug Taylor]

Yeah, but we've still got 5-point seatbelts in airliners which makes it hard to scratch those nether-regions when one much.

Does make, however, for some interesting contortions!

[I_Money]

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Yeah, but we've still got 5-point seatbelts in airliners which makes it hard to scratch those nether-regions when one much.

Does make, however, for some interesting contortions!

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Mate when I was up front - in cruise we just had on our lap belts - scratching would not have been too tough!

[Doug Taylor]

Well we just have the lapbelts too on in flight, but there's that 'crotch strap' which keeps the whole thing centered.

It's like v1...vr.....v2.... 'clinky clinky' as we both disconnect the shoulder straps.

[kellwolf]

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And it is cheaper, think of the fuel costs of flying 2 yokes around the world. If you consider flying a can of soda around for a month costs $3 in fuel; think how much a yoke weighs, times that by 2, and then times that by the size of the fleet. It gets expsensive quickly!

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Well, if you're renting, the price on the Cirrus will offset that fuel price by a tad. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[MidlifeFlyer]

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Has anyone here ever flown in a side stick aircraft with the exception of MikeD and A300Capt?

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Just like moving from a yoke to a center stick, the transition is pretty much a non-event. It's take very little to get used to. Maybe the biggest issue is the tightness of the controls since the overall throw is much much less and the response is much greater, but that would be an issue when moving from any loosely rigged airplane, like a light Cessna or Piper, to a more tightly rigged one, say like a small Mooney.

Biggest advantages seem to be comfort (your arm stays comfortably on an armrest) and the clear view of the entire panel. Biggest disadvantage from the left seat would be, I imagine, for left-handed pilots who might have a bit of trouble flying and writing at the same time.

Are there any fly-by-wire ga aircraft?

[kellwolf]

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Are there any fly-by-wire ga aircraft?

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Man, I hope not. One electrical failure and you're toast......