MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport

primetime · September 7th, 2004, 22:43

An MD-88 on its way into Daytona today just about landed in Ormond Beach, passengers said he was about 50ft off the runway when he did a go-around and circled back to land on 16 at DAB. Lots of passengers complained, but the Capt. swore he was at Daytona, just saw another aircraft on the runway so he went around.....

kellwolf · September 7th, 2004, 22:51

Probably thought the VOR was at DAB and just tracked it on in.......

Windchill · September 7th, 2004, 22:57

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Probably thought the VOR was at DAB and just tracked it on in.......

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isn't the crew supposed to brief the approach prior to the flight and understand the locality of a VOR they'll use in relation to the airport they're arriving at.

I know things are different/not necessarily as simple up in the air, but this isn't me or other private pilots landing at a wrong airport, it's a professional who is paid to have it down.

kellwolf · September 7th, 2004, 23:01

Which airline was it? I've heard Spirit landing at MLB before, but I think that was a charter. Not sure if they fly into DAB. Approach even asked the guy "And just to confirm, you're final destiniation is MLB." There are a LOT of airports in the DAB area. Ormand is just north, is actually a decent size, and has the VOR on the field for the whole area. Odds are this guy was tracking the VOR, requested a visual, and called the wrong airport in sight.

primetime · September 7th, 2004, 23:03

It was Delta Airlines, ILS was out of service at Daytona, maybe that had something to do with it.

CRJDriver · September 7th, 2004, 23:09

Doug, did you try to land at the wrong airport again.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

mastermags · September 7th, 2004, 23:23

This stuff happens more often than you think.

Doug Taylor · September 8th, 2004, 00:34

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Doug, did you try to land at the wrong airport again.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Not I!

Doug Taylor · September 8th, 2004, 00:36

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This stuff happens more often than you think.

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Oh yes.

And it was a Comair RJ, not a Delta MD-88 from what I'm hearing.

Give my mad dog croanies SOME credit, yo!

September 8th, 2004, 00:41

What happens to the Captain and FO when they land at the wrong airport? Fired?

Doug Taylor · September 8th, 2004, 00:45

I know a guy who landed at the wrong airport at a different airline, they were given remedial training and a 'part-609' checkride with the FAA in attendance and that's about all that happened.

September 8th, 2004, 00:49

I guess it is worse when you land an airliner at a military airbase.

H46Bubba · September 8th, 2004, 00:52

Definately not a DCA/Comair grad! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
If he or she is, they need to be smacked in the head [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]

Kingairer · September 8th, 2004, 00:59

Doug Im confused....You dont fly every DL MD88? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif[/img]

chrisesp · September 8th, 2004, 01:16

I would've just taken an extended final approach..........all the way to the bahamas! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

(Well maybe not today, after they clean up from frances I would.)

Doug Taylor · September 8th, 2004, 01:21

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Doug Im confused....You dont fly every DL MD88? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif[/img]

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No, but do you know what's funny? I flew cleared_ils_9L today out of Jacksonville!

Kingairer · September 8th, 2004, 01:22

You're a celebrity i tell ya.

jtrain609 · September 8th, 2004, 01:49

I know Doug's my hero...which is why he should be in the AIM chat right now!

aloft · September 8th, 2004, 05:52

Pilotz is stoopid.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

triple7 · September 8th, 2004, 08:39

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Doug Im confused....You dont fly every DL MD88? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif[/img]

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No, but do you know what's funny? I flew cleared_ils_9L today out of Jacksonville!

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wow, that mustve been an insteresting meeting.....

"hey, you are doug taylor.....im cleared_ils_9l...how ya doing? its your leg? oh great...the landing better be good"

Mr_Creepy · September 8th, 2004, 09:46

Doug - it's section 709 now. They did away with 609 a few years back.

Same thing though.

Cachon · September 8th, 2004, 18:15

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Doug - it's section 709 now. They did away with 609 a few years back.

Same thing though.

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What is 709? It's that a check ride, re-training? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

MikeD · September 8th, 2004, 18:17

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Doug - it's section 709 now. They did away with 609 a few years back.

Same thing though.

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What is 709? It's that a check ride, re-training? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I remember it (609) being a "let's see if you're worthy of a pilot's license" ride.

Mr_Creepy · September 8th, 2004, 19:57

Under section 709 it basically says that at any time they want to, the FAA can ask any airman to be re-examined for proficiency (or more to the point - deficiency!)

primetime · September 9th, 2004, 01:03

Latest is that the Capt. called the Chief Pilot as soon as he landed. Delta let him fly out the next day so I think he got away with it.
P.S. It was a Mad Dog pilot [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

September 7th, 2004, 22:43	#1
primetime Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Daytona Beach, Florida Posts: 6	MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport An MD-88 on its way into Daytona today just about landed in Ormond Beach, passengers said he was about 50ft off the runway when he did a go-around and circled back to land on 16 at DAB. Lots of passengers complained, but the Capt. swore he was at Daytona, just saw another aircraft on the runway so he went around.....

September 7th, 2004, 22:51	#2
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,230	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Probably thought the VOR was at DAB and just tracked it on in.......

September 7th, 2004, 22:57	#3
Windchill Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-Atlantic, KMRB Posts: 1,925	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] Probably thought the VOR was at DAB and just tracked it on in....... [/ QUOTE ] isn't the crew supposed to brief the approach prior to the flight and understand the locality of a VOR they'll use in relation to the airport they're arriving at. I know things are different/not necessarily as simple up in the air, but this isn't me or other private pilots landing at a wrong airport, it's a professional who is paid to have it down.

September 7th, 2004, 23:01	#4
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,230	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Which airline was it? I've heard Spirit landing at MLB before, but I think that was a charter. Not sure if they fly into DAB. Approach even asked the guy "And just to confirm, you're final destiniation is MLB." There are a LOT of airports in the DAB area. Ormand is just north, is actually a decent size, and has the VOR on the field for the whole area. Odds are this guy was tracking the VOR, requested a visual, and called the wrong airport in sight.

September 7th, 2004, 23:03	#5
primetime Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Daytona Beach, Florida Posts: 6	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport It was Delta Airlines, ILS was out of service at Daytona, maybe that had something to do with it.

September 7th, 2004, 23:09	#6
CRJDriver Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CVG Posts: 1,075	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Doug, did you try to land at the wrong airport again.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

September 7th, 2004, 23:23	#7
mastermags Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 1,311	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport This stuff happens more often than you think.

September 8th, 2004, 00:34	#8
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] Doug, did you try to land at the wrong airport again.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Not I!

September 8th, 2004, 00:36	#9
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] This stuff happens more often than you think. [/ QUOTE ] Oh yes. And it was a Comair RJ, not a Delta MD-88 from what I'm hearing. Give my mad dog croanies SOME credit, yo!

September 8th, 2004, 00:41	#10
Lurker Posts: n/a	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport What happens to the Captain and FO when they land at the wrong airport? Fired?

September 8th, 2004, 00:45	#11
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport I know a guy who landed at the wrong airport at a different airline, they were given remedial training and a 'part-609' checkride with the FAA in attendance and that's about all that happened.

September 8th, 2004, 00:49	#12
Lurker Posts: n/a	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport I guess it is worse when you land an airliner at a military airbase.

September 8th, 2004, 00:52	#13
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,465	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Definately not a DCA/Comair grad! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] If he or she is, they need to be smacked in the head [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]

September 8th, 2004, 00:59	#14
Kingairer Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer Posts: 3,215	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Doug Im confused....You dont fly every DL MD88? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif[/img]

September 8th, 2004, 01:16	#15
chrisesp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 394	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport I would've just taken an extended final approach..........all the way to the bahamas! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] (Well maybe not today, after they clean up from frances I would.)

September 8th, 2004, 01:21	#16
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] Doug Im confused....You dont fly every DL MD88? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] No, but do you know what's funny? I flew cleared_ils_9L today out of Jacksonville!

September 8th, 2004, 01:22	#17
Kingairer Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer Posts: 3,215	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport You're a celebrity i tell ya.

September 8th, 2004, 01:49	#18
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport I know Doug's my hero...which is why he should be in the AIM chat right now!

September 8th, 2004, 05:52	#19
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,148	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Pilotz is stoopid. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

September 8th, 2004, 08:39	#20
triple7 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arlington, VA(EWR on the weekends) Posts: 901	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Doug Im confused....You dont fly every DL MD88? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] No, but do you know what's funny? I flew cleared_ils_9L today out of Jacksonville! [/ QUOTE ] wow, that mustve been an insteresting meeting..... "hey, you are doug taylor.....im cleared_ils_9l...how ya doing? its your leg? oh great...the landing better be good"

September 8th, 2004, 09:46	#21
Mr_Creepy Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone Posts: 5,810	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Doug - it's section 709 now. They did away with 609 a few years back. Same thing though.

September 8th, 2004, 18:15	#22
Cachon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 200	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] Doug - it's section 709 now. They did away with 609 a few years back. Same thing though. [/ QUOTE ] What is 709? It's that a check ride, re-training? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

September 8th, 2004, 18:17	#23
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Doug - it's section 709 now. They did away with 609 a few years back. Same thing though. [/ QUOTE ] What is 709? It's that a check ride, re-training? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I remember it (609) being a "let's see if you're worthy of a pilot's license" ride.

September 8th, 2004, 19:57	#24
Mr_Creepy Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone Posts: 5,810	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Under section 709 it basically says that at any time they want to, the FAA can ask any airman to be re-examined for proficiency (or more to the point - deficiency!)

September 9th, 2004, 01:03	#25
primetime Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Daytona Beach, Florida Posts: 6	Re: MD88 Pilot Landing at the Wrong Airport Latest is that the Capt. called the Chief Pilot as soon as he landed. Delta let him fly out the next day so I think he got away with it. P.S. It was a Mad Dog pilot [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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