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September 8th, 2004, 14:07
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 33
|  Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
If you have a weight issue, you need to accept it and plan accordingly when flying. My little (I should say younger ) brother weighs over 300 lbs. (You'd never think we were related). Anyway - he has been planning a study abroad to the UK, leaving today I think. After thinking it over, my parents decided to upgrade him to business class or something similar (flying on BA) because of his size. Its not fair to fellow passengers to be hanging over into their space making for a very uncomfortable flight, especially on longer trips. Accept your problem and pay the extra $$$. |
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September 8th, 2004, 14:10
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 3rd Rock From the Sun
Posts: 869
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
[ QUOTE ] Let's not argue just because of our weights people! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Isn't this discussion all about weight?? Or am I missing the point???? And on that note, if you saw me you would not thinkI am obese. I am 6' 4" 260 pounds. Most of it is in my beer belly. According to the Body Mass Index, I am Obese (31.65bmi) But the lady in the story is at least double mine. For you health conscious people who want to know about BMI goto: BMI calculator |
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September 8th, 2004, 14:12
| #78 |
| Administrator  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark
Posts: 6,897
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Let's not argue just because of our weights people! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Isn't this discussion all about weight?? Or am I missing the point???? [/ QUOTE ] I believe what Brian is saying is don't be biased in your personal opinion on the issue merely because of the weight you happen to be. |
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September 8th, 2004, 14:40
| #79 |
| Old Skool  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 14,230
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[ QUOTE ] Well, the average waist size for men is now 40 inches. And the average size for a woman is a size 12. [/ QUOTE ] Alright! Something I'm below average in that I can be proud of. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Obesity (to me at least) is BOTH genetic and behaviorly induced. I believe people are genetically pre-disposed to be obese, but they can alter their behaviors to overcome it. My mother is overweight, and I have the joy of inheriting those genes. So, I watch what I eat, exercise when I can, and I try to stay active. My brother is 6'4" and under 200 lbs, so he got my dad's beanpole genes. The boy can eat a horse and LOSE weight. What I really hate is all these diet ads saying "Overwieght? It's not your fault! It's the hormones!" |
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September 8th, 2004, 17:16
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| Big Chief's Woman  | Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Let's not argue just because of our weights people! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Isn't this discussion all about weight?? Or am I missing the point???? And on that note, if you saw me you would not thinkI am obese. I am 6' 4" 260 pounds. Most of it is in my beer belly. According to the Body Mass Index, I am Obese (31.65bmi) But the lady in the story is at least double mine. For you health conscious people who want to know about BMI goto: BMI calculator [/ QUOTE ] yup, using that calculator - we are all a lost cause! hahahaha |
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September 8th, 2004, 18:09
| #81 |
| Senior Member  Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: KSAN
Posts: 392
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
[ QUOTE ] News flash for all you skinny people: you're shaped the way you are and we fat people are shaped the way we are largely because of genetics. Anyone who disagrees with this doesn't understand either genetics or differences in metabolism (a product of...surprise...genetics). Sure, exercise can have an effect on this [/ QUOTE ] While genetics obviously play a role, I wouldn't say obesity is 'largely' due to genetics. The epidemic of fatness in this country is 'largely' due to poor diet and lack of excercise! I had been a size 4 my whole life until bad airport eating and lack of excersice (sitting all day in this profession) has caused me to put on 15-20 pounds so I am a size 8 or 10. While I am still no where near that lady, my gain is a direct result of my own bad habits. Anyone who has ever seen people predisposed to being over weight taking responsibility for their bad habits and lack of excercise on "I lost it" (a show about the obese regaining their lives on Disc Health) can see genetics aren't 'largely' the reason they are so fat. Lifestyle choices are for 95%. I can attest to that from my own overweight mothers experience. As soon as I became sedentary like her, the weight piled on. (Genetics?!?) I am now getting off my own fat a$$ and joined a fitness program to get back to where I need to be. Excercise keeps me slim, even though genetically my family is fat. Mom eats bad or skips meals and never excercises and wonders why she can't shed 70 pounds.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] |
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September 8th, 2004, 18:18
| #82 |
| Old Skool  Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my Cozy garage
Posts: 6,271
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[ QUOTE ] News flash for all you skinny people: you're shaped the way you are and we fat people are shaped the way we are largely because of genetics. Anyone who disagrees with this doesn't understand either genetics or differences in metabolism (a product of...surprise...genetics). Sure, exercise can have an effect on this [/ QUOTE ] Ohhhhhhh kayyyyyyyyyyyy, and that excuses someone from needing therefore paying for an extra seat LOL [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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September 8th, 2004, 18:29
| #83 |
| Junior Member  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: CSG
Posts: 186
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
Since my BMI is 18.13 does that mean I can purchase 1/2 a seat or 3/4 a seat if I want to "stretch"? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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September 8th, 2004, 20:35
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA
Posts: 19,231
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Well I'm 5'8 and weight 195-200lbs. Granted all of that extra weight is muscle. I work out like 3-4x a week. I push myself to excerise regulary and eat healthy but it's cause well I don't want to get fat. I enjoy being healthy and having a flat stomach. A friend of mine Rayshaun weighted was like 5'9 and 250-300lbs. of pure fat. He had issues with being gay and as a result ate his pains away. Anyways he started to eat right and exercise and watch his calorie intake and today he is like 5'9 and like 140lbs. and looks wonderful. Now not everyone will have results like him and become a bean pole. But I do have little sympathy for those who are overweight and simply complain. Matthew |
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September 8th, 2004, 21:55
| #85 |
| Old Skool  Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 4,886
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
How did I get drug into this! Just because I have 6% body fat? Don't discriminate against us skinny people!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] 4 pages already. Geez. |
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September 9th, 2004, 00:12
| #86 |
| Old Skool  Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,521
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
I show 17.15 on the BMI. I had a free test this spring that showed my body to be 4% fat! My metabolism must be very ambitious.
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September 9th, 2004, 00:15
| #87 |
| Old Skool  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Park City, UT
Posts: 3,602
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
that BMI thing is retarded (as are all online calculator ones) because it shows Max as having a 29.65 BMI which is borderline obese. None of these online ones actually take into account muscle weight or fun things like that. anyway...continue |
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September 9th, 2004, 00:18
| #88 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,521
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
They are not supposed to take muscle into account. It is a Body Mass Index. It is understood that an olympian could be shown as overweight on the BMI. If it had the capability to account for muscle, fat, and other properties in the human body, it would be called a Body Content Index instead. |
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September 9th, 2004, 00:23
| #89 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Park City, UT
Posts: 3,602
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
oh really? I did not know that. Cool.
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September 9th, 2004, 00:26
| #90 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,521
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
Also, if anyone wants to do it themselves, here is the data I have for calculating it: [ (Your weight in pounds) x (705) ] / (Your height in inches)*2 So if you are 150# and 6'0"... (150 x 705) / (72)*2 = 20.4 Remember, do not take it too literally. |
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September 9th, 2004, 01:45
| #91 |
| Senior Member  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: LAX
Posts: 658
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
The BMI index is pretty worthless in my opinion...It doesn't take into account your build, just overall weight so it varies wildly. If you want a true measure of where you stand, you need to get a cheap ($4) skinfold caliper...take the required measurements from all over your body, and plug in the "parillac" formula. It will tell you very accurately how many pounds of fat and how many pounds of lean mass you have...you can then figure you body fat %. Or you could have yourself "hydrostatically" (underwater) weighed. Avg. body fat % for a male - 15%...ideal is 6-12%, to really see your abs and get that ripped look, most guys have to get down around 6-8% I have to get down to about 5% to get mine to really rip out. Avg. body fat for a female - 23%...ideal is 12-18% Anything over 25% for a male or 30% for a female puts you at about an 80% increased risk for coranary heart disease, hypertension, many types of cancer, and all kinds of other health problems. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] I've really been turning into a fitness and diet nut lately [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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September 9th, 2004, 02:20
| #92 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA
Posts: 19,231
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
...yea according to what my doctor said at my last check up I'm technically overweight for my height. But I'm in good health and have a flat lean stomach. My body fat is prolly about 5-10%. Normal weight for people my hieght is between 150-160lbs. I weighted myself earlier at the gym and I weight exactly 200lbs. I'm short and my weight is compact. I look exactly like an olympic gymnast. Only my upper and lower torso more evenly complement each other then a gymnast does. If Kristie and Doug allow for after hours at NetworkJC I might dance and strip (I do need the flight money). You girls will be very excited...but I won't be. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Matthew |
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September 9th, 2004, 02:34
| #94 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA
Posts: 19,231
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
...yup just like male flight attendants...lol Matthew |
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September 9th, 2004, 02:40
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| Agent Smith  | Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
One of my favorites is "Big Gay Corey" who works on the Song side of the operation now. He's always saying 'Well HELLOOoooo, I'm a sharply dressed male flight attendant, what do you think I'm STRAIGHT or something?' Whenever you ring the cabin interphone, he picks up the intercom and says "Hello! Big gay Corey here!" Some of the older guys get a little weirded out, but hey man, good people are good people! |
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September 9th, 2004, 03:07
| #96 |
| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA
Posts: 19,231
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
LOL....and how old is big gay Corey? Matthew |
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September 9th, 2004, 03:07
| #97 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: LAX
Posts: 658
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
[ QUOTE ] yea according to what my doctor said at my last check up I'm technically overweight for my height. But I'm in good health and have a flat lean stomach. My body fat is prolly about 5-10%. Normal weight for people my hieght is between 150-160lbs. I weighted myself earlier at the gym and I weight exactly 200lbs. I'm short and my weight is compact. I look exactly like an olympic gymnast. Only my upper and lower torso more evenly complement each other then a gymnast does. [/ QUOTE ] Yea...all the charts, and doctors advice is worthless for those of us trying to pack on muscle...supposedly I shouldn't ever get over 200lbs at 6'4" with my frame to stay "fit". My goal is to get up to about 230-240lbs and keep my 5% body fat for that Dolph Lundgren physique. Packed on 30lbs of muscle so far in around 1 year...only about 40 to go! I think...no I KNOW it's a helluva lot harder to gain lean mass than to lose weight! People that say they can't change their body or blame it on genitics are just lazy! It is a lot of work...a new lifestyle really, but it CAN BE DONE! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img] |
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September 9th, 2004, 03:15
| #99 |
| Junior Member  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Saint Cloud, MN USA
Posts: 260
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
Geez a lot of you guys are tall!
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September 9th, 2004, 09:16
| #100 |
| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone
Posts: 5,810
| Re: If your large don\'t fly SWA
[ QUOTE ] Also, if anyone wants to do it themselves, here is the data I have for calculating it: [ (Your weight in pounds) x (705) ] / (Your height in inches)*2 So if you are 150# and 6'0"... (150 x 705) / (72)*2 = 20.4 Remember, do not take it too literally. [/ QUOTE ] Nick check your #'s again. I come up with: 150*750 = 105750 (and that's a weird coincidence huh?) divide that by 72*2 (=144) and I get 734.375 - not 20.4! Scared the heck out of me when my BMI came out to be 1255! |
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