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Old August 27th, 2004, 11:34   #26
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That's like saying that a Bronze Star recipient shouldn't wear it, but put it in a box and keep it a secret.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Or pretend to through it over a fence.

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Old August 27th, 2004, 12:12   #27
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I must've missed something... not being a pilot and all, what exactly is a "gold seal"?? I"m picturing the gold stars given as a kid, or restaurant gold seals or that type of thing here?
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Old August 27th, 2004, 12:33   #28
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May this will help some:

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GOLD SEAL FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR CERTIFICATES. The specific requirements for the gold seal flight instructor certificate are contained in FAA Orders 8700.1, General Aviation Operations Inspector’s Handbook, and 8710.3C, Pilot Examiner’s Handbook. Flight instructor certificates bearing distinctive gold seals are issued to flight instructors who have maintained a high level of flight training activity and who meet special criteria. Once issued, a gold seal flight instructor certificate will be reissued each time the instructor's certificate is renewed. Applicants for gold seal flight instructor certificates must meet the following requirements:

a. The flight instructor must hold a commercial pilot certificate with an instrument rating (glider flight instructors need not hold an instrument rating) or an ATP certificate;

b. The flight instructor must hold a ground instructor certificate with an advanced or instrument ground instructor rating; and

c. The flight instructor must have accomplished the following within the previous 24 months:

(1) Trained and recommended at least 10 applicants for a practical test, at least 8 of whom passed their tests on the first attempt;

(2) Conducted at least 20 practical tests as a designated pilot examiner, or graduation tests as chief instructor of a 14 CFR part 141 approved pilot school course; or

(3) A combination of the above requirements. (Two practical tests conducted equal the credit given for one applicant trained and recommended for a practical test.)


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Old August 27th, 2004, 13:56   #29
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It's basically an award that the FAA gives you having both a Flight Instructor AND Ground Instructor, as well as having a really good pass rate for you students and their checkrides.
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Old August 27th, 2004, 14:24   #30
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Justin, it sounds like the chief CFI is testing your manhood a bit. Yeah, you're young, and yeah, you respect the dude, but if you want him to respect YOU, you need to find an equally tactful way of telling him to stick it.

Something along the lines of "I hear where you're coming from and respect your views, of course, but the reason our friend left for greener pastures has nothing to do with me and everything to do with him and his level of satisfaction here. For whatever reason, he wasn't happy here and needed something that the club couldn't/wouldn't provide. The simple fact of the matter is that if he was happy here, he wouldn't have accepted work elsewhere. If I've helped an unhappy instructor move on to a happier place, then I've actually done you and OUR flying club a favor."
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I dunno ... I'm still kinda partial to "stick it, jack@$$."


Short, simple and directly to the point. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old August 27th, 2004, 15:24   #32
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No, that's my job. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old August 27th, 2004, 17:11   #33
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That's my point exactly. Why even get it?

IT'S USELESS.

There is no other function a Gold Seal can accomplish that a straight CFI can't do.

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Except get more money, maybe? And have something to put on his resume?

Not important things or anything like that, though.
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Old August 27th, 2004, 18:38   #34
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" I work very hard to aquire and retain good CFIs at the club....it is our very life blood and it takes considerable effort and cost. It is unhelpful, to say the least, suggesting or encouraging their outside employment"

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Alright, that's it! Give me his number, I'll call his ass....... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] What an idiot. Don't worry about your background man. I've been in your shoes and this won't affect it. I would still (tactfully and professionally) send the "Chief" CFI a reply stating your stand on the matter. Just save everything..........you'll be fine. There's no way in hell the law enforcement agency would disqualify you for this guys comments anyway. You know how detailed that investigation is. It's based on the big picture.........uh, um...unless you were dealin' smack in the past. Then you're probably screwed. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Good luck on that man! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old August 27th, 2004, 20:54   #35
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No, that's my job. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I respect your domain... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old August 28th, 2004, 01:02   #36
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Justin, it sounds like the chief CFI is testing your manhood a bit. Yeah, you're young, and yeah, you respect the dude, but if you want him to respect YOU, you need to find an equally tactful way of telling him to stick it.

Something along the lines of "I hear where you're coming from and respect your views, of course, but the reason our friend left for greener pastures has nothing to do with me and everything to do with him and his level of satisfaction here. For whatever reason, he wasn't happy here and needed something that the club couldn't/wouldn't provide. The simple fact of the matter is that if he was happy here, he wouldn't have accepted work elsewhere. If I've helped an unhappy instructor move on to a happier place, then I've actually done you and OUR flying club a favor."

[/ QUOTE ]can he use that quote verbatim without penalty? haha [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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