Two plane crashes in Russia...

N519AT · August 24th, 2004, 18:19

Starting to sound fairly framiliar, lets hope it isn't a act of terrorism, and pray for the victims.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

August 24th, 2004, 18:24

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CaptainChris87 · August 24th, 2004, 20:21

Yeah I wonder why those two Russian planes crashed, was it probably engineering flaws like what happend to their Tf-144's? or could be an act of terrorism, prayers go out for the victims.

Sprint100 · August 24th, 2004, 20:38

People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray?

August 24th, 2004, 20:41

CNN is late then. I was just watching and it said that one crashed and the other one just lost communication.

SteveC · August 24th, 2004, 21:13

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People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray?

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Don't know about that. Pretty sure that some people that don't say it, do.

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CaptainChris87 · August 24th, 2004, 21:18

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People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray?

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Are you accusing me of being a Christian hyporcrite? of Course I mean it. To think I was just going to post somethin like what you said hahaha [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] !

August 24th, 2004, 21:33

I honestly type it on the forums but then forget to say it. I am a Christian though.

flyallday · August 24th, 2004, 22:34

i just heard that a car bomb blew up in Russia too

VampyreGTX · August 24th, 2004, 22:37

I'd lean toward terrorism. Both planes departed the same airport at the same time, both drop off the radar within 3 minutes of each other with apparently no warning and Chechnya's 'elections' are this weekend, which the Chechyan rebels have made more than clear they will do what they can to disrupt them. Also, they are now reporting the tail section of the first plane is reported to have been located a considerable distance from the rest of the wreckage.

Sprint100 · August 24th, 2004, 23:02

I wasn't implying anything on anyone, that question was just something that makes me go hmmmmmmmm [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!!!!!

CaptainChris87 · August 24th, 2004, 23:37

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I wasn't implying anything on anyone, that question was just something that makes me go hmmmmmmmm [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!!!!!

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yep its alll good

chrisesp · August 24th, 2004, 23:54

They are saying now that the airplanes sent out a "Hijacked" signal is this the same transponder code we use in america?

VampyreGTX · August 24th, 2004, 23:55

Report: Russian Jet Sent Hijack Signal

10 minutes ago

By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW - A Russian airliner crashed and a second disappeared from radar about the same time Tuesday night after both planes took off from the same Moscow airport, raising fears that terrorism was involved.

The Russian news agency Interfax reported that a hijacking signal was activated on the second plane before it went missing. The signal came at 11:04 p.m. from the Tu-154 airliner, Interfax quoted the source in Russia's "power structures" as saying.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ia_plane_crash

chrisesp · August 25th, 2004, 00:00

Too slow

VampyreGTX · August 25th, 2004, 00:01

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Too slow

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Cause I included details! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif[/img]

N519AT · August 25th, 2004, 00:02

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People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray?

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I do.

Doug Taylor · August 25th, 2004, 00:02

I dunno, if there was an 'event' shortly after takeoff, the last thought in any pilots head is going to the 'code', and more with securing the flight deck.

Mesmells speculation.

MikeD · August 25th, 2004, 00:08

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I dunno, if there was an 'event' shortly after takeoff, the last thought in any pilots head is going to the 'code', and more with securing the flight deck.

Mesmells speculation.

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Exactly. Knowing the Russians, the first thing, get those AK-74 shorty's and body armor off the aft cockpit wall and get the FE and Co in action!

VampyreGTX · August 25th, 2004, 00:08

Wasn't the second plane already 600 miles south of the departure airport? Maybe one of the last things the pilots did was to set the transponder. Though, let's not speculate and leave the facts to the officials. (yeah right!)

tonyw · August 25th, 2004, 00:09

Yup.

For now, it's probably best to just call it a tragedy. And the two crashes are tragedies, regardless of whether they were horrible accidents or terrorist acts.

PeanuckleCRJ · August 25th, 2004, 01:48

From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it.

Putin is gonna take a dump on chechnya if he traces it to them....

kellwolf · August 25th, 2004, 12:48

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From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it.

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I HIGHLY doubt Muslims had anything to do with it. The Russians have been against the US going into Iraq since the beginning, why would the Muslims do anything to flip Russia over to our side? IF it was terrorism (and being the level headed individual I am, I'm waiting for more evidence) it was probably the rebels in Russia who were responsible. If so, they obviously stole a page out of the Al-Queda playbook, maybe HOPING someone else would get blamed.

Minnesota_Flyer · August 25th, 2004, 12:55

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From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it.

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I HIGHLY doubt Muslims had anything to do with it. The Russians have been against the US going into Iraq since the beginning, why would the Muslims do anything to flip Russia over to our side? IF it was terrorism (and being the level headed individual I am, I'm waiting for more evidence) it was probably the rebels in Russia who were responsible. If so, they obviously stole a page out of the Al-Queda playbook, maybe HOPING someone else would get blamed.

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The Chechens are predominantely Muslim.

Ace_High · August 25th, 2004, 12:59

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From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it.

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I HIGHLY doubt Muslims had anything to do with it... ...it was probably the rebels in Russia who were responsible.

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The "rebels in Russia" are the Chechens (sp?) ...they are Muslim I believe...

August 24th, 2004, 18:19	#1
N519AT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 41-41-00.830N 083-47-26.160W Posts: 501	Two plane crashes in Russia... Starting to sound fairly framiliar, lets hope it isn't a act of terrorism, and pray for the victims. http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

August 24th, 2004, 18:24	#2
Lurker Posts: n/a	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

August 24th, 2004, 20:21	#3
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,760	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... Yeah I wonder why those two Russian planes crashed, was it probably engineering flaws like what happend to their Tf-144's? or could be an act of terrorism, prayers go out for the victims.

August 24th, 2004, 20:38	#4
Sprint100 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 5,910	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray?

August 24th, 2004, 20:41	#5
Lurker Posts: n/a	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... CNN is late then. I was just watching and it said that one crashed and the other one just lost communication.

August 24th, 2004, 21:13	#6
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,412	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... [ QUOTE ] People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray? [/ QUOTE ] Don't know about that. Pretty sure that some people that don't say it, do. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

August 24th, 2004, 21:18	#7
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,760	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... [ QUOTE ] People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray? [/ QUOTE ] Are you accusing me of being a Christian hyporcrite? of Course I mean it. To think I was just going to post somethin like what you said hahaha [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] !

August 24th, 2004, 21:33	#8
Lurker Posts: n/a	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... I honestly type it on the forums but then forget to say it. I am a Christian though.

August 24th, 2004, 22:34	#9
flyallday Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA baby!!! Posts: 226	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... i just heard that a car bomb blew up in Russia too

August 24th, 2004, 22:37	#10
VampyreGTX Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 152	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... I'd lean toward terrorism. Both planes departed the same airport at the same time, both drop off the radar within 3 minutes of each other with apparently no warning and Chechnya's 'elections' are this weekend, which the Chechyan rebels have made more than clear they will do what they can to disrupt them. Also, they are now reporting the tail section of the first plane is reported to have been located a considerable distance from the rest of the wreckage.

August 24th, 2004, 23:02	#11
Sprint100 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 5,910	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... I wasn't implying anything on anyone, that question was just something that makes me go hmmmmmmmm [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!!!!!

August 24th, 2004, 23:37	#12
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,760	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... [ QUOTE ] I wasn't implying anything on anyone, that question was just something that makes me go hmmmmmmmm [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ] yep its alll good

August 24th, 2004, 23:54	#13
chrisesp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 386	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... They are saying now that the airplanes sent out a "Hijacked" signal is this the same transponder code we use in america?

August 24th, 2004, 23:55	#14
VampyreGTX Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 152	Hijacked?! Report: Russian Jet Sent Hijack Signal 10 minutes ago By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer MOSCOW - A Russian airliner crashed and a second disappeared from radar about the same time Tuesday night after both planes took off from the same Moscow airport, raising fears that terrorism was involved. The Russian news agency Interfax reported that a hijacking signal was activated on the second plane before it went missing. The signal came at 11:04 p.m. from the Tu-154 airliner, Interfax quoted the source in Russia's "power structures" as saying. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ia_plane_crash

August 25th, 2004, 00:00	#15
chrisesp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 386	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... Too slow

August 25th, 2004, 00:01	#16
VampyreGTX Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 152	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... [ QUOTE ] Too slow [/ QUOTE ] Cause I included details! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif[/img]

August 25th, 2004, 00:02	#17
N519AT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 41-41-00.830N 083-47-26.160W Posts: 501	Re: Two plane crashes in Russia... [ QUOTE ] People say "prayers out to the victims" during instances like this. My question is...Do any of the people who say that pray? [/ QUOTE ] I do.

August 25th, 2004, 00:02	#18
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,931 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Hijacked?! I dunno, if there was an 'event' shortly after takeoff, the last thought in any pilots head is going to the 'code', and more with securing the flight deck. Mesmells speculation.

August 25th, 2004, 00:08	#19
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Hijacked?! [ QUOTE ] I dunno, if there was an 'event' shortly after takeoff, the last thought in any pilots head is going to the 'code', and more with securing the flight deck. Mesmells speculation. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. Knowing the Russians, the first thing, get those AK-74 shorty's and body armor off the aft cockpit wall and get the FE and Co in action!

August 25th, 2004, 00:08	#20
VampyreGTX Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 152	Re: Hijacked?! Wasn't the second plane already 600 miles south of the departure airport? Maybe one of the last things the pilots did was to set the transponder. Though, let's not speculate and leave the facts to the officials. (yeah right!)

August 25th, 2004, 00:09	#21
tonyw Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15,198	Re: Hijacked?! Yup. For now, it's probably best to just call it a tragedy. And the two crashes are tragedies, regardless of whether they were horrible accidents or terrorist acts.

August 25th, 2004, 01:48	#22
PeanuckleCRJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Where everybody's somebody Posts: 603	Re: Hijacked?! From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it. Putin is gonna take a dump on chechnya if he traces it to them....

August 25th, 2004, 12:48	#23
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,368	Re: Hijacked?! [ QUOTE ] From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it. [/ QUOTE ] I HIGHLY doubt Muslims had anything to do with it. The Russians have been against the US going into Iraq since the beginning, why would the Muslims do anything to flip Russia over to our side? IF it was terrorism (and being the level headed individual I am, I'm waiting for more evidence) it was probably the rebels in Russia who were responsible. If so, they obviously stole a page out of the Al-Queda playbook, maybe HOPING someone else would get blamed.

August 25th, 2004, 12:55	#24
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,895	Re: Hijacked?! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it. [/ QUOTE ] I HIGHLY doubt Muslims had anything to do with it. The Russians have been against the US going into Iraq since the beginning, why would the Muslims do anything to flip Russia over to our side? IF it was terrorism (and being the level headed individual I am, I'm waiting for more evidence) it was probably the rebels in Russia who were responsible. If so, they obviously stole a page out of the Al-Queda playbook, maybe HOPING someone else would get blamed. [/ QUOTE ] The Chechens are predominantely Muslim.

August 25th, 2004, 12:59	#25
Ace_High Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: SE Pennsylvania Posts: 33	Re: Hijacked?! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] From the latest thing Ive read...this certainly has "muslim extremist" written all over it. [/ QUOTE ] I HIGHLY doubt Muslims had anything to do with it... ...it was probably the rebels in Russia who were responsible. [/ QUOTE ] The "rebels in Russia" are the Chechens (sp?) ...they are Muslim I believe...

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