Can't wait to get to the regionals??? - Page 4

MikeD · August 17th, 2004, 23:29

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I posted this thread not create a big controversy, but to open the eyes to the realities of this career and profession... I wanted to put things into perspective so that you go into this profession well informed and knowledgable not with your head in the clouds, or worse, up your a$$....

Many of you younger folks (and this site is chock full of you guys) are wearing rose colored glasses, dreaming of the day you'll get to fly a jet... It is very easy to say money doens't matter when you are living at home with mom & dad and they are paying nearly all of your expenses... But when the day comes (and it WILL come) when Mom & Dad give you the boot and tell you to stand on your own 2 feet, you will quickly realize that:

"flying a jet" doesn't pay the rent... Money does...
"flying a jet" doesn't pay for food... Money does...
"flying a jet" doesn't pay the utilities... Money does...
"flying a jet" doesn't buy you things... Money does...
"flying a jet" doesn't pay the car payment... Money does...
"flying a jet" doesn't pay the student loans... Money does...

While other career fields have seen their wages steadily increase (at least at the rate of cost of living increases)... MANY pilot jobs (i.e. Regionals) have seen their wages deteriorate... Some of you are right, until there is truely a qualified pilot shortage you will not see wages increase, because there is always some knucklehead who will work for less, just to fly a jet...

Before you jump into this career, make sure you get as informaed as your can, about ALL the aspects... Don't ignore the bad parts (furloughs, pay cuts, union battles, QoL issues, Scope, etc...) they aren't going away... If you ignore them, once you are here it will be that much harder to turn around and do something else...

Don't get me wrong, this job is rewarding, but it certainly isn't for everyone, even if you just absolutely love to fly... Being a Professional Pilot goes FAR, FAR beyond manipulating the controls of a flying machine...

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I wholehartedly agree with Falcon here. My only question is, why do I get bitched at when I bring up the same thing here, regards regionals in particular? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jtrain609 · August 17th, 2004, 23:37

Mike, it's because you don't fly a sweet plane like...oh...wait...yeah I'm not sure either [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Bog · August 18th, 2004, 00:08

Mike: were you getting yelled at before or after you added your signature?

MikeD · August 18th, 2004, 00:11

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Mike: were you getting yelled at before or after you added your signature?

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LOL! It was before. I guess that explains it! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ps- Mmmmm......Tara Reid.......

DE727UPS · August 18th, 2004, 00:43

Bog. You and your crew should get those blow up air beds and sack out in uniform in front of the Mesa gate. Leave a note for the ticket agent to wake you up when they need you. They would be getting you a hotel in no time.....

Bog · August 18th, 2004, 00:47

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Bog. You and your crew should get those blow up air beds and sack out in uniform in front of the Mesa gate. Leave a note for the ticket agent to wake you up when they need you. They would be getting you a hotel in no time.....

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Now that is a good idea. We caught some zzz's in the airplane in ELP the other morning. Perhaps we should have taken the seat cushions into the boarding area and slept on the floor. Yes, yes I do believe you have it!

jonnyb · August 18th, 2004, 02:14

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We caught some zzz's in the airplane in ELP the other morning

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You certainly left the APU running, right?? I hope so, ELP would've been hell. Besides, if their not going to spring for a hotel room, at least they'll have to fork out, for a few hundred pounds of Jet-A per hour. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

MikeD · August 18th, 2004, 02:22

Actually, ELP is a cool airfield if you get to walk around on the GA side some. Old Convairs, and the coolest of them all: the ONLY McDonnell Model 220 bizjet in existance; parked over by the NASA side. Cool looking plane and with next to no hours on it.

Bog · August 18th, 2004, 02:31

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Actually, ELP is a cool airfield if you get to walk around on the GA side some. Old Convairs, and the coolest of them all: the ONLY McDonnell Model 220 bizjet in existance; parked over by the NASA side. Cool looking plane and with next to no hours on it.

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Kinda hard to do at 3am when it's raining, though.

Oh yeah, the APU was running the entire time!

Mr_Creepy · August 18th, 2004, 07:37

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You'll never be wealthy being someone's employee. Most people haven't figured that out yet.

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Hear hear!

That includes being an airline pilot.

August 17th, 2004, 23:29	#76
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? [ QUOTE ] I posted this thread not create a big controversy, but to open the eyes to the realities of this career and profession... I wanted to put things into perspective so that you go into this profession well informed and knowledgable not with your head in the clouds, or worse, up your a$$.... Many of you younger folks (and this site is chock full of you guys) are wearing rose colored glasses, dreaming of the day you'll get to fly a jet... It is very easy to say money doens't matter when you are living at home with mom & dad and they are paying nearly all of your expenses... But when the day comes (and it WILL come) when Mom & Dad give you the boot and tell you to stand on your own 2 feet, you will quickly realize that: "flying a jet" doesn't pay the rent... Money does... "flying a jet" doesn't pay for food... Money does... "flying a jet" doesn't pay the utilities... Money does... "flying a jet" doesn't buy you things... Money does... "flying a jet" doesn't pay the car payment... Money does... "flying a jet" doesn't pay the student loans... Money does... While other career fields have seen their wages steadily increase (at least at the rate of cost of living increases)... MANY pilot jobs (i.e. Regionals) have seen their wages deteriorate... Some of you are right, until there is truely a qualified pilot shortage you will not see wages increase, because there is always some knucklehead who will work for less, just to fly a jet... Before you jump into this career, make sure you get as informaed as your can, about ALL the aspects... Don't ignore the bad parts (furloughs, pay cuts, union battles, QoL issues, Scope, etc...) they aren't going away... If you ignore them, once you are here it will be that much harder to turn around and do something else... Don't get me wrong, this job is rewarding, but it certainly isn't for everyone, even if you just absolutely love to fly... Being a Professional Pilot goes FAR, FAR beyond manipulating the controls of a flying machine... [/ QUOTE ] I wholehartedly agree with Falcon here. My only question is, why do I get bitched at when I bring up the same thing here, regards regionals in particular? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

August 17th, 2004, 23:37	#77
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? Mike, it's because you don't fly a sweet plane like...oh...wait...yeah I'm not sure either [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img]

August 18th, 2004, 00:08	#78
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,170	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? Mike: were you getting yelled at before or after you added your signature?

August 18th, 2004, 00:11	#79
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? [ QUOTE ] Mike: were you getting yelled at before or after you added your signature? [/ QUOTE ] LOL! It was before. I guess that explains it! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ps- Mmmmm......Tara Reid.......

August 18th, 2004, 00:43	#80
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,577	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? Bog. You and your crew should get those blow up air beds and sack out in uniform in front of the Mesa gate. Leave a note for the ticket agent to wake you up when they need you. They would be getting you a hotel in no time.....

August 18th, 2004, 00:47	#81
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,170	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? [ QUOTE ] Bog. You and your crew should get those blow up air beds and sack out in uniform in front of the Mesa gate. Leave a note for the ticket agent to wake you up when they need you. They would be getting you a hotel in no time..... [/ QUOTE ] Now that is a good idea. We caught some zzz's in the airplane in ELP the other morning. Perhaps we should have taken the seat cushions into the boarding area and slept on the floor. Yes, yes I do believe you have it!

August 18th, 2004, 02:14	#82
jonnyb Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: So. California Posts: 1,304	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? [ QUOTE ] We caught some zzz's in the airplane in ELP the other morning [/ QUOTE ] You certainly left the APU running, right?? I hope so, ELP would've been hell. Besides, if their not going to spring for a hotel room, at least they'll have to fork out, for a few hundred pounds of Jet-A per hour. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

August 18th, 2004, 02:22	#83
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? Actually, ELP is a cool airfield if you get to walk around on the GA side some. Old Convairs, and the coolest of them all: the ONLY McDonnell Model 220 bizjet in existance; parked over by the NASA side. Cool looking plane and with next to no hours on it.

August 18th, 2004, 02:31	#84
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,170	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? [ QUOTE ] Actually, ELP is a cool airfield if you get to walk around on the GA side some. Old Convairs, and the coolest of them all: the ONLY McDonnell Model 220 bizjet in existance; parked over by the NASA side. Cool looking plane and with next to no hours on it. [/ QUOTE ] Kinda hard to do at 3am when it's raining, though. Oh yeah, the APU was running the entire time!

August 18th, 2004, 07:37	#85
Mr_Creepy Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone Posts: 5,810	Re: Can\'t wait to get to the regionals??? [ QUOTE ] You'll never be wealthy being someone's employee. Most people haven't figured that out yet. [/ QUOTE ] Hear hear! That includes being an airline pilot.

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