PSA pay scale?

Soonermurph · August 13th, 2004, 12:50

Guys, I have been trying to locate a pay scale for PSA but I have been completely unable to find it. Does anybody have this information? Thanks!

UND_Flyer · August 13th, 2004, 13:55

Don't know if they list PSA pilot pay, but check out this site: http://www.ppjn.com.

Soonermurph · August 13th, 2004, 15:06

Thanks for the page but no dice. I wonder if the pay scale at PSA is a corporate secret? I can't find it anywhere.

MikeD · August 13th, 2004, 15:07

Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23.

Soonermurph · August 13th, 2004, 15:12

Funny!

kellwolf · August 13th, 2004, 15:16

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Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23.

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Not to knock Mike's Mesa-bashing bubble, but I'm pretty sure Mesa actually makes MORE than PSA.

MikeD · August 13th, 2004, 15:18

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Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23.

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Not to knock Mike's Mesa-bashing bubble, but I'm pretty sure Mesa actually makes MORE than PSA.

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Exactly. By a factor of 2.23.

And Mesa still reaps what they sow.

kellwolf · August 13th, 2004, 15:32

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Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23.

Not to knock Mike's Mesa-bashing bubble, but I'm pretty sure Mesa actually makes MORE than PSA.

Exactly. By a factor of 2.23.

And Mesa still reaps what they sow.

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Wait, now I'm confused. First you say to multiply Mesa's wage by 2.23 and that would be PSA. Now you're saying that Mesa makes PSA * 2.23? While I agree that Mesa might not be the best regional out there, they are far from the worse. I know in the past you've said you just say "Mesa" to represent bad regionals in general, but I'm starting to agree with JT. You seem like you have a serious chip on your shoulder when it comes to Mesa.

Soonermurph · August 13th, 2004, 15:35

But we don't know what PSA pilots make.

kellwolf · August 13th, 2004, 15:38

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But we don't know what PSA pilots make.

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Yeah, and I'm outta links to find out, too. Checked airlinepilotcontracts, pilotjobs, and a few others. All I know is they are a wholly owned subisdiary of US Airways (along w/ Allegheny and Piedmont), and a lot of their pilots or Jets 4 Jobs. At least they were, not sure if they've been recalled or not. All I know for sure is a Mesa FO on the turboprop starts at a shade above $18 and an RJ a little over $20.

MikeD · August 13th, 2004, 15:47

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[ I know in the past you've said you just say "Mesa" to represent bad regionals in general, but I'm starting to agree with JT. You seem like you have a serious chip on your shoulder when it comes to Mesa.

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A serious chip on my shoulder with all of them, actually. More like outright disgust with their management.

Hey, just calling a spade a spade. Military has problems of it's own that I have no compunction in calling out either, to be perfectly fair.

kellwolf · August 13th, 2004, 15:50

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A serious chip on my shoulder with all of them, actually. More like outright disgust with their management.

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Can't really disagree with you there, however I think my disgust with management extends to some majors (and a certain theme park/entertainment company). It's one of those "hey, I gotta start somewhere" things, though. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

MikeD · August 13th, 2004, 15:57

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A serious chip on my shoulder with all of them, actually. More like outright disgust with their management.

[/ QUOTE ]

Can't really disagree with you there, however I think my disgust with management extends to some majors (and a certain theme park/entertainment company). It's one of those "hey, I gotta start somewhere" things, though. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know what you mean, and therein lies the pickle. Pilots need the time to move up the ladder, but all the doors (door 1/2/3, etc) all lead through swamps before they get to the green grass.

I just wish it could be a more quality path for pilots, especially after all the work one goes through just to get the ratings. That's all.

Just a big bane of frustration for me....seeing pilots with excellent training, skills, work ethic, etc....having to be treated less than deserved, while idiots lik, for instance, Paris Hilton, don't amount to anything and never learn the importance of a dollar.

So just know that that's where my frustration lies....not in any way with the pilots themselves.

Almost wish if I had the money, I could start an airline that would have good pay and bennies and take care of it's people. It'd be like "I know you're here for a stepping stone, and I fully understand......I'm more than willing to take care of you as an employee, if you take care of me as a worker. You need a recommendation? You''ll get it. Need time off for that interview? You'll get it. Just do your best here and try to make this place the best during your tenure, and I'll try to make sure you have decent pay and QOL."

Probably just a dream, but it'd be a good one to come to reality.

kellwolf · August 13th, 2004, 15:58

I'd fly for ya. Now we just need to get the money together......I think US Air will have a fire sale soon.

TheShortOne · August 13th, 2004, 16:00

i'll come work for ya too, but i don't think you want me and my 2.4 hours of flight time behind the yoke...i'll be VP of the company [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

kellwolf · August 13th, 2004, 16:02

We need someone to work the ticket counter.......

MikeD · August 13th, 2004, 16:03

LOL. We've got JC-Air America. Now we need it's civilian equivilent.! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Kell, need a job? I need a senior pilot! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

MikeD · August 13th, 2004, 16:06

That is sort of odd that PSA's payscale can't be found. Not saying it's anything nefarious, just sort of odd. Normally that kind of info is easily google-able.

Soonermurph · August 13th, 2004, 18:29

I have looked for the pay info. on PSA for weeks with no luck. Nobody seems to know.

UND_Flyer · August 13th, 2004, 18:40

Try this one!

Soonermurph · August 13th, 2004, 18:45

It's not there either although the pilot-pay page is the most complete I've seen.

Doug Taylor · August 13th, 2004, 23:21

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LOL. We've got JC-Air America. Now we need it's civilian equivilent.! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Daftarian, I am SO not flying a Porter onto some unimproved airstrip... I'm a married man and everything changes bro!

Unless, there's, uhh, no golden bee bee's with my name on them, I might take you up... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MikeD · August 15th, 2004, 11:50

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
LOL. We've got JC-Air America. Now we need it's civilian equivilent.! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Daftarian, I am SO not flying a Porter onto some unimproved airstrip... I'm a married man and everything changes bro!

Unless, there's, uhh, no golden bee bee's with my name on them, I might take you up... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

You know you'd like it........no stupid pax, no union/management BS, no political correctness, no overbearing captains, good high pay.

On the downside...no Chik Fil-As, no autopilot, no computers at all for that matter, good high pay commensurate with good high danger level.....

Doug Taylor · August 15th, 2004, 13:38

[ QUOTE ]
You know you'd like it........no stupid pax, no union/management BS, no political correctness, no overbearing captains, good high pay.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ooh!

Mike, you're a good salesman!

[ QUOTE ]
On the downside...no Chik Fil-As

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm cool with that...

[ QUOTE ]
no autopilot

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm cool with that...

[ QUOTE ]
no computers at all for that matter

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm cool with that!

[ QUOTE ]
, good high pay commensurate with good high danger level.....

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, #2's in hot!

August 13th, 2004, 12:50	#1
Soonermurph Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 225	PSA pay scale? Guys, I have been trying to locate a pay scale for PSA but I have been completely unable to find it. Does anybody have this information? Thanks!

August 13th, 2004, 15:06	#3
Soonermurph Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 225	Re: PSA pay scale? Thanks for the page but no dice. I wonder if the pay scale at PSA is a corporate secret? I can't find it anywhere.

August 13th, 2004, 15:07	#4
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23.

August 13th, 2004, 15:12	#5
Soonermurph Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 225	Re: PSA pay scale? Funny!

August 13th, 2004, 15:16	#6
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23. [/ QUOTE ] Not to knock Mike's Mesa-bashing bubble, but I'm pretty sure Mesa actually makes MORE than PSA.

August 13th, 2004, 13:55	#2
UND_Flyer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CVG Posts: 990	Re: PSA pay scale? Don't know if they list PSA pilot pay, but check out this site: http://www.ppjn.com.

August 13th, 2004, 15:18	#7
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23. [/ QUOTE ] Not to knock Mike's Mesa-bashing bubble, but I'm pretty sure Mesa actually makes MORE than PSA. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. By a factor of 2.23. And Mesa still reaps what they sow.

August 13th, 2004, 15:32	#8
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] Multiply Mesa's by a factor of 2.23. Not to knock Mike's Mesa-bashing bubble, but I'm pretty sure Mesa actually makes MORE than PSA. Exactly. By a factor of 2.23. And Mesa still reaps what they sow. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, now I'm confused. First you say to multiply Mesa's wage by 2.23 and that would be PSA. Now you're saying that Mesa makes PSA * 2.23? While I agree that Mesa might not be the best regional out there, they are far from the worse. I know in the past you've said you just say "Mesa" to represent bad regionals in general, but I'm starting to agree with JT. You seem like you have a serious chip on your shoulder when it comes to Mesa.

August 13th, 2004, 15:35	#9
Soonermurph Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 225	Re: PSA pay scale? But we don't know what PSA pilots make.

August 13th, 2004, 15:38	#10
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] But we don't know what PSA pilots make. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, and I'm outta links to find out, too. Checked airlinepilotcontracts, pilotjobs, and a few others. All I know is they are a wholly owned subisdiary of US Airways (along w/ Allegheny and Piedmont), and a lot of their pilots or Jets 4 Jobs. At least they were, not sure if they've been recalled or not. All I know for sure is a Mesa FO on the turboprop starts at a shade above $18 and an RJ a little over $20.

August 13th, 2004, 15:47	#11
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] [ I know in the past you've said you just say "Mesa" to represent bad regionals in general, but I'm starting to agree with JT. You seem like you have a serious chip on your shoulder when it comes to Mesa. [/ QUOTE ] A serious chip on my shoulder with all of them, actually. More like outright disgust with their management. Hey, just calling a spade a spade. Military has problems of it's own that I have no compunction in calling out either, to be perfectly fair.

August 13th, 2004, 15:50	#12
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] A serious chip on my shoulder with all of them, actually. More like outright disgust with their management. [/ QUOTE ] Can't really disagree with you there, however I think my disgust with management extends to some majors (and a certain theme park/entertainment company). It's one of those "hey, I gotta start somewhere" things, though. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

August 13th, 2004, 15:57	#13
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A serious chip on my shoulder with all of them, actually. More like outright disgust with their management. [/ QUOTE ] Can't really disagree with you there, however I think my disgust with management extends to some majors (and a certain theme park/entertainment company). It's one of those "hey, I gotta start somewhere" things, though. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. [/ QUOTE ] I know what you mean, and therein lies the pickle. Pilots need the time to move up the ladder, but all the doors (door 1/2/3, etc) all lead through swamps before they get to the green grass. I just wish it could be a more quality path for pilots, especially after all the work one goes through just to get the ratings. That's all. Just a big bane of frustration for me....seeing pilots with excellent training, skills, work ethic, etc....having to be treated less than deserved, while idiots lik, for instance, Paris Hilton, don't amount to anything and never learn the importance of a dollar. So just know that that's where my frustration lies....not in any way with the pilots themselves. Almost wish if I had the money, I could start an airline that would have good pay and bennies and take care of it's people. It'd be like "I know you're here for a stepping stone, and I fully understand......I'm more than willing to take care of you as an employee, if you take care of me as a worker. You need a recommendation? You''ll get it. Need time off for that interview? You'll get it. Just do your best here and try to make this place the best during your tenure, and I'll try to make sure you have decent pay and QOL." Probably just a dream, but it'd be a good one to come to reality.

August 13th, 2004, 15:58	#14
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: PSA pay scale? I'd fly for ya. Now we just need to get the money together......I think US Air will have a fire sale soon.

August 13th, 2004, 16:00	#15
TheShortOne Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 3,293	Re: PSA pay scale? i'll come work for ya too, but i don't think you want me and my 2.4 hours of flight time behind the yoke...i'll be VP of the company [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

August 13th, 2004, 16:02	#16
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: PSA pay scale? We need someone to work the ticket counter.......

August 13th, 2004, 16:03	#17
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? LOL. We've got JC-Air America. Now we need it's civilian equivilent.! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Kell, need a job? I need a senior pilot! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

August 13th, 2004, 16:06	#18
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? That is sort of odd that PSA's payscale can't be found. Not saying it's anything nefarious, just sort of odd. Normally that kind of info is easily google-able.

August 13th, 2004, 18:29	#19
Soonermurph Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 225	Re: PSA pay scale? I have looked for the pay info. on PSA for weeks with no luck. Nobody seems to know.

August 13th, 2004, 18:40	#20
UND_Flyer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CVG Posts: 990	Re: PSA pay scale? Try this one!

August 13th, 2004, 18:45	#21
Soonermurph Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 225	Re: PSA pay scale? It's not there either although the pilot-pay page is the most complete I've seen.

August 13th, 2004, 23:21	#22
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,823 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] LOL. We've got JC-Air America. Now we need it's civilian equivilent.! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Daftarian, I am SO not flying a Porter onto some unimproved airstrip... I'm a married man and everything changes bro! Unless, there's, uhh, no golden bee bee's with my name on them, I might take you up... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

August 15th, 2004, 11:50	#23
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] LOL. We've got JC-Air America. Now we need it's civilian equivilent.! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Daftarian, I am SO not flying a Porter onto some unimproved airstrip... I'm a married man and everything changes bro! Unless, there's, uhh, no golden bee bee's with my name on them, I might take you up... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] You know you'd like it........no stupid pax, no union/management BS, no political correctness, no overbearing captains, good high pay. On the downside...no Chik Fil-As, no autopilot, no computers at all for that matter, good high pay commensurate with good high danger level.....

August 15th, 2004, 13:38	#24
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,823 Blog Entries: 1	Re: PSA pay scale? [ QUOTE ] You know you'd like it........no stupid pax, no union/management BS, no political correctness, no overbearing captains, good high pay. [/ QUOTE ] Ooh! Mike, you're a good salesman! [ QUOTE ] On the downside...no Chik Fil-As [/ QUOTE ] I'm cool with that... [ QUOTE ] no autopilot [/ QUOTE ] I'm cool with that... [ QUOTE ] no computers at all for that matter [/ QUOTE ] I'm cool with that! [ QUOTE ] , good high pay commensurate with good high danger level..... [/ QUOTE ] Ok, #2's in hot!

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