Sunglasses and Perspective

FL410 · July 17th, 2004, 15:34

Has anyone noticed sunglasses slightly change your perspective/peripheral vision while flying? Specifically on landing.

TallBoy85 · July 17th, 2004, 15:41

Yeah certain sunglasses do...I've noticed it a lot since I live in Arizona and while I was instrucing I was wearing my shades pretty much sunrise to sunset. The clouds would roll in and I'd have to demonstrate a landing and I'd prang one in.

There's golfing sunglasses out there that completely eliminate all lens curvature error apparently...not sure if they have the same for pilots...except maybe aviator sunglasses...but I'd rather bang one in every now and then, rather than wearing goofy sunglasses.

cime_sp · July 17th, 2004, 16:06

Serengeti's are designed to be "optically correct" in order to eliminate distance/distortion problems.

aloft · July 17th, 2004, 23:48

Try it with my coke-bottles sometime!

I wear contacts when I fly for that very reason; things seems further away when I wear my glasses than they do with my contacts.

Regarding sunglasses, some are better than others. I've heard Oakleys get top marks for least optical distortion, too.

kellwolf · July 18th, 2004, 21:17

Never noticed a difference wearing my Serengeti's or just plain ole contacts. Although, it could be a good excuse for a slammed down landing.....

FL410 · July 19th, 2004, 08:49

I have some cheap ones, so that might be why. I notice that whenever I have my sunglasses off everything seems more "natural" and my flying is better, so maybe I'll look into something else.

UAL747400 · August 15th, 2004, 16:15

Oakleys are also optically correct, and a little cheaper I think. I have polarized oakley fives. Does anyone, specifically you guys that fly glass cockpits, have any troble with polarized lenses. I just hope I didn't waste 70 dollars on glasses I'm going to have trouble with later. I think cessna is the only one that uses tinting that isn't freindly to polarized lenses.

Once you go polarized everything else just sucks.

Tom

Tim06 · August 15th, 2004, 16:37

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I have some cheap ones, so that might be why. I notice that whenever I have my sunglasses off everything seems more "natural" and my flying is better, so maybe I'll look into something else.

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Same feeling here, I feel almost as if it's harder to concentrate when I'm wearing sunglasses. So most of the time, I just don't wear 'em

QXDVR · August 15th, 2004, 19:10

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Has anyone noticed sunglasses slightly change your perspective/peripheral vision while flying? Specifically on landing.

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Only on the hard landings! At least thats what I tell the pax. That or Windshear works too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

AWI_SYR · August 15th, 2004, 20:09

I have noticed polarized makes the Garmin GPS moveing map dark and hard to see for some reason. At some angles you cant even see the screen, but when you take the glasses off its as clear as can be!

cime_sp · August 15th, 2004, 21:03

I know polarized lenses REALLY screw up with the tinting in my car. I start to see rainbows and stuff.

Got some real nasty ROY G BIV stuff goin' on!!!

tonyw · August 15th, 2004, 23:33

Nope, haven't noticed the change in perspective. I've got the Smith sunglasses that are designed for use in sports, and they do the job just fine.

Cheechako · August 15th, 2004, 23:56

Sometimes I like to tilt the glasses so everything's way distorted and land that way. . . makes me feel like I'm landing a Jumbo Jet!! sometimes. . . .

tonyw · August 16th, 2004, 00:08

Kind of like putting on some coke bottle glasses just for fun?

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UAL747400 · August 16th, 2004, 02:31

yeah ive noticed that with car tinting too. The garman gps screen is polarized diagonally where sunglasses are polarized horizontally, so thats why its darker. I'll be alright with polarized windshields as they are polarized the same way.

I'm worried about tinted windshields. Any of you pro guys have problems with polarized lenses.

Tom

Doug Taylor · August 16th, 2004, 10:38

A lot of the polarized lenses are unusable in aircraft with heated windshields. Looks like Disney's "Fantasia"!

UAL747400 · August 16th, 2004, 14:03

I haven't had a problem with heated windshields sitting inside, just out side from and above angle looking perpendicular to the window. As long and they don't start making aiplane windows straight up and down I should be alright with that.

I'm more worried about windshields being polarized a different direction than my sunglasses. I dont know why you would want to polarize a windshield vertically but mabey some are.

Tom

Doug Taylor · August 16th, 2004, 14:05

In a transport-category aircraft? I've never had any luck.

Bog · August 16th, 2004, 16:54

Tried polarized clip-ons in the Mighty Beech Airliner. Bad, bad move.

Tried polarized cheapos in the CRJ. It was like Willy Wonka, but different.

I've been using $10.00 shades for the last 3 years. They do the job, although I'm ready to buy something better.

Screaming_Emu · August 17th, 2004, 15:09

I have a pair of fake raybans that I picked up in Shanghai and they seem to be just fine. The optics are actually really nice. They're real glass too, the guy who sold them to me even held a lighter to them and nothing happened. The only thing I dont like about sunglasses is trying to read things that are in the shade in the cockpit such as gauges that are under the yoke and what not. I usually just wear my "stupid is as stupid does" hat when I go flying and dont use the sunglasses, though I've been flying under the hood a lot lately...heh...that would be a really stupid idea.

July 17th, 2004, 15:34	#1
FL410 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 172	Sunglasses and Perspective Has anyone noticed sunglasses slightly change your perspective/peripheral vision while flying? Specifically on landing.

July 17th, 2004, 15:41	#2
TallBoy85 Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 194	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Yeah certain sunglasses do...I've noticed it a lot since I live in Arizona and while I was instrucing I was wearing my shades pretty much sunrise to sunset. The clouds would roll in and I'd have to demonstrate a landing and I'd prang one in. There's golfing sunglasses out there that completely eliminate all lens curvature error apparently...not sure if they have the same for pilots...except maybe aviator sunglasses...but I'd rather bang one in every now and then, rather than wearing goofy sunglasses.

July 17th, 2004, 16:06	#3
cime_sp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 775	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Serengeti's are designed to be "optically correct" in order to eliminate distance/distortion problems.

July 17th, 2004, 23:48	#4
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 6,722	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Try it with my coke-bottles sometime! I wear contacts when I fly for that very reason; things seems further away when I wear my glasses than they do with my contacts. Regarding sunglasses, some are better than others. I've heard Oakleys get top marks for least optical distortion, too.

July 18th, 2004, 21:17	#5
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Never noticed a difference wearing my Serengeti's or just plain ole contacts. Although, it could be a good excuse for a slammed down landing.....

July 19th, 2004, 08:49	#6
FL410 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 172	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective I have some cheap ones, so that might be why. I notice that whenever I have my sunglasses off everything seems more "natural" and my flying is better, so maybe I'll look into something else.

August 15th, 2004, 16:15	#7
UAL747400 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Grand Forks, ND (UND)/ Davenport, IA Posts: 2,204	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Oakleys are also optically correct, and a little cheaper I think. I have polarized oakley fives. Does anyone, specifically you guys that fly glass cockpits, have any troble with polarized lenses. I just hope I didn't waste 70 dollars on glasses I'm going to have trouble with later. I think cessna is the only one that uses tinting that isn't freindly to polarized lenses. Once you go polarized everything else just sucks. Tom

August 15th, 2004, 16:37	#8
Tim06 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 487	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective [ QUOTE ] I have some cheap ones, so that might be why. I notice that whenever I have my sunglasses off everything seems more "natural" and my flying is better, so maybe I'll look into something else. [/ QUOTE ] Same feeling here, I feel almost as if it's harder to concentrate when I'm wearing sunglasses. So most of the time, I just don't wear 'em

August 15th, 2004, 19:10	#9
QXDVR Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 112	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective [ QUOTE ] Has anyone noticed sunglasses slightly change your perspective/peripheral vision while flying? Specifically on landing. [/ QUOTE ] Only on the hard landings! At least thats what I tell the pax. That or Windshear works too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

August 15th, 2004, 20:09	#10
AWI_SYR Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 6	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective I have noticed polarized makes the Garmin GPS moveing map dark and hard to see for some reason. At some angles you cant even see the screen, but when you take the glasses off its as clear as can be!

August 15th, 2004, 21:03	#11
cime_sp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 775	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective I know polarized lenses REALLY screw up with the tinting in my car. I start to see rainbows and stuff. Got some real nasty ROY G BIV stuff goin' on!!!

August 15th, 2004, 23:33	#12
tonyw Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15,165	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Nope, haven't noticed the change in perspective. I've got the Smith sunglasses that are designed for use in sports, and they do the job just fine.

August 15th, 2004, 23:56	#13
Cheechako Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wasilla, AK Posts: 965	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Sometimes I like to tilt the glasses so everything's way distorted and land that way. . . makes me feel like I'm landing a Jumbo Jet!! sometimes. . . .

August 16th, 2004, 00:08	#14
tonyw Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15,165	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Kind of like putting on some coke bottle glasses just for fun? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img]

August 16th, 2004, 02:31	#15
UAL747400 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Grand Forks, ND (UND)/ Davenport, IA Posts: 2,204	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective yeah ive noticed that with car tinting too. The garman gps screen is polarized diagonally where sunglasses are polarized horizontally, so thats why its darker. I'll be alright with polarized windshields as they are polarized the same way. I'm worried about tinted windshields. Any of you pro guys have problems with polarized lenses. Tom

August 16th, 2004, 10:38	#16
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,823 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective A lot of the polarized lenses are unusable in aircraft with heated windshields. Looks like Disney's "Fantasia"!

August 16th, 2004, 14:03	#17
UAL747400 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Grand Forks, ND (UND)/ Davenport, IA Posts: 2,204	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective I haven't had a problem with heated windshields sitting inside, just out side from and above angle looking perpendicular to the window. As long and they don't start making aiplane windows straight up and down I should be alright with that. I'm more worried about windshields being polarized a different direction than my sunglasses. I dont know why you would want to polarize a windshield vertically but mabey some are. Tom

August 16th, 2004, 14:05	#18
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,823 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective In a transport-category aircraft? I've never had any luck.

August 16th, 2004, 16:54	#19
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,152	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective Tried polarized clip-ons in the Mighty Beech Airliner. Bad, bad move. Tried polarized cheapos in the CRJ. It was like Willy Wonka, but different. I've been using $10.00 shades for the last 3 years. They do the job, although I'm ready to buy something better.

August 17th, 2004, 15:09	#20
Screaming_Emu Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,094	Re: Sunglasses and Perspective I have a pair of fake raybans that I picked up in Shanghai and they seem to be just fine. The optics are actually really nice. They're real glass too, the guy who sold them to me even held a lighter to them and nothing happened. The only thing I dont like about sunglasses is trying to read things that are in the shade in the cockpit such as gauges that are under the yoke and what not. I usually just wear my "stupid is as stupid does" hat when I go flying and dont use the sunglasses, though I've been flying under the hood a lot lately...heh...that would be a really stupid idea.

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