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Old June 27th, 2004, 23:39   #1
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Default Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

Watch the movie:

http://wid.ap.org/video/evac.html
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Old June 27th, 2004, 23:52   #2
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

That's why I always try to sit in an Exit row. If at all possible I'm going to be the first one out the door if there is a fire.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 00:05   #3
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

I like the "DAD" at the end of the tape with one kid in one hand and the important handbag on the other
Looks like his daughter is second priority...
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Old June 28th, 2004, 00:12   #4
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Old June 28th, 2004, 00:46   #5
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

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That's why I always try to sit in an Exit row. If at all possible I'm going to be the first one out the door if there is a fire.

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I hope you are kidding. By sitting in an exit row you take responsibility to assist the crew in evacuating passengers. You're not supposed to just hop out.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 01:22   #6
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

Love the first part where everyone opens the bins and garbs their bag(s)...Aren't you SUPPOSED to listen to safety breifings?
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Old June 28th, 2004, 01:55   #7
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I hope you are kidding. By sitting in an exit row you take responsibility to assist the crew in evacuating passengers. You're not supposed to just hop out.

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$h*t...

I'm poppin the hatch and I'm gone!!!

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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:21   #8
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I agree MTSU. They say you "may be called upon". Calledupon my butt. Sorry, I didn't hear you as I was already out of the plane.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:34   #9
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

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That's why I always try to sit in an Exit row. If at all possible I'm going to be the first one out the door if there is a fire.

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Yeah, you wan to get out before it gets clogged up with women, children and seniors.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 06:39   #10
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Its the women and the seniors I worry about. You can use the kids to smother the flames...

Just a joke. I would never use anyones children to put out a fire...unless they had been really, really annoying during the flight.

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Old June 28th, 2004, 07:50   #11
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But even sitting in an exit row, aren't you responsible for opening the door and that's it? They surely can't expect you to stand there and help people get out, not that I wouln't do that.

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Old June 28th, 2004, 08:26   #12
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But even sitting in an exit row, aren't you responsible for opening the door and that's it? They surely can't expect you to stand there and help people get out

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No. The airlines cannot "expect" you to do anything. There are no laws written anywhere that say you have to stay on a burning plane and help everyone out.

You are not a paid employee....nor a required crewmember. You are a paying customer.

If it were me sitting by the exit as a passenger, I'd pop the hatch, grab my wife and (soon-to-be) child and weez-OUT bro!!!

I'm no hero. I'm not dying for some idiot who thinks they need to wait and get their crap out of the overhead.

I will pray for them though.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 09:11   #13
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$h*t...

I'm poppin the hatch and I'm gone!!!

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My Hero!
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Old June 28th, 2004, 10:13   #14
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That's why I always try to sit in an Exit row. If at all possible I'm going to be the first one out the door if there is a fire.

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I hope you are kidding. By sitting in an exit row you take responsibility to assist the crew in evacuating passengers. You're not supposed to just hop out.

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I will assist the crew by opening the door that I'm sitting next too, then getting the hell out of the way!
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Old June 28th, 2004, 10:19   #15
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

To properly assist you need to be out on the wing anyway.

I would stand out there and pull people out of the window or at the least, catch them sliding off the wing.

I could not abandon people and live with myself afterwards.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 10:25   #16
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I could not abandon people and live with myself afterwards.


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If I were a crewmember - I'd absolutely stay and assist.

As a pax, MY family comes first. Once my family was safe (if they were even on the flight), I'd consider helping out.

Depends on the circumstance.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 10:52   #17
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

The fire in the bar in RI showed pretty well what happend in a paniced evacuation.

One person tripped in the doorway.

Someone either tripped over them or stoped to help them up.

The people behind them fell on top.

100+ people died.




If there is a fire and you fall in front of me I will step over/on you on my way out the door.

If you are between me and the door and are reaching for your bag, I will knock you out and step over your body.

Cold blooded you say, AbsoF&$%inglutly.

A paniced mob is not the place to try to apply conventional morality.

I'll live, and so will my family.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:29   #18
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

The whole thing is a catch-22.

There are uncommanded evacuations more often than you think and people get injured during any (every!) evacuation, where legit or uncommanded.

But during evacs, passengers try to run the wrong direction, block the aisle while trying to dig up their carry on or just sit there dumbfounded.

I do a lot of flying because of my commute to Atlanta and each time I get on a jet, I look for an exit and figure out which way I'm going to run if I've got to get out.

Most people just get on the jet, bitch about the seat pitch and talk over the safety demo on the cellular telephone.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:40   #19
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

My wife hates flying with me because I make her figure out the closest exit also. She used to never pay attention to the safety briefs, but now she does.

I've done my part for my family. When we have kids, I'll do the same for them.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:51   #20
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

Count the rows.

When you sit down, take a look around (in front of and behind) you and make a note of the two closest exits, make a mental note of how many seat rows are between you and the exit. Take a look at that briefing card in the seatback pocket! It will tell you how to operate every exit in the cabin of that airplane!

If you are in an exit row, be prepared to operate that exit. Nobody's saying you have to be a hero, but you must be able & willing to at least open the exit and get yourself out of everyone else's way.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 12:53   #21
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

It sort of reminds me on some of the airline safety videos when they say "Please take this moment to find the nearest exit to you." I always sit up straight and look around curiously, most people are like what the hell is this kid doing. They don't even pay attention to the movie.
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Old June 28th, 2004, 13:40   #22
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Count the rows.

When you sit down, take a look around (in front of and behind) you and make a note of the two closest exits, make a mental note of how many seat rows are between you and the exit. Take a look at that briefing card in the seatback pocket! It will tell you how to operate every exit in the cabin of that airplane!

If you are in an exit row, be prepared to operate that exit. Nobody's saying you have to be a hero, but you must be able & willing to at least open the exit and get yourself out of everyone else's way.

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Yeah, I'd listen to Amber here, after all she does know this
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Old June 28th, 2004, 14:06   #23
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I could not abandon people and live with myself afterwards.

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That would be better than not abandoning people and not being able to live with myself afterwards...

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Old June 28th, 2004, 14:45   #24
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

counting exit rows is something i always do too. I don't pay attention to the saftey briefing anymore because it is always the same..."this is how your seatbelt works...incase of a loss of cabin pressure oxygen masks will fall from the ceiling, secure yours before assisting someone else. the bag does not have to fully inflate in order to recieve sufficant oxygen. in the event of a water emergency your seat cushion can be used as a floatation device. please take this time to locate the two nearest exits, keeping in mind that the closest exit may be behind you."

whatdaya think amber? can I be a FA now? jk
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Old June 28th, 2004, 16:09   #25
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Default Re: Ever wonder if 90 seconds is enough to get everyone off a plane?

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I could not abandon people and live with myself afterwards.

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That would be better than not abandoning people and not being able to live with myself afterwards...



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Sorry Lloyd but I disagree.

I'd rather be a dead lion than a live jackal.
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