A good trend - Page 2

febtober29 · November 6th, 2009, 17:25

Sounds like the cargo game is back on all around. Hopefully the pax world shows some renewed life soon too

To the AMFers, my feeling used to be 'i dont care what we're getting because i just want out.' now its more like 'well im totally stuck here so hopefully we get new stuff.'

n57flyguy · November 6th, 2009, 21:05

I've seen a rush of on demand locally (I'm the kid unloading it at 3am

). I've been able to talk to some of the pilots and they seem optimistic about growth in the future.

OldTownPilot · November 7th, 2009, 20:19

If in fact on-demand freight is one of the first signs of recovery, and it is increasing as much as you say it is, thats a good thing for all of us that are trying to find jobs, such as yours truly.

Boris Badenov · November 7th, 2009, 22:38

hope I'm hearing wrong but I'm hearing the uptick is almost all cash for clunkers restocking, and this temporary. Again, hope that's just more uninformed gossip.

Polar742 · November 7th, 2009, 23:46

Well, just a few things

One, most stuff through HACTL isn't "on-demand" stuff.

Second, I don't fly for an "on-demand" company, we fly DHL express. I've been jumping alot on FedEx, and those guys are reporting the same. Big Airplanes flying scheduled and express freight are filling up.

Third, we all know capacity is being cut, but it seems that the actual freight is leveling off. Emirates wanted more flying for peak, which cause Atlas to recall 15.

It's been this way since March.

I think there will be fits and spurts, but everything seems to be starting to stabilize. The planes have been consistently full for 8 or 9 months now, and there are still companies cutting.

I'm not saying there will be growth, but I think we may have leveled off. There may be some more minor declines, but I'm thinking movement in the sub 5% range for awhile in either direction, the -28% stuff seems to be over.

Hopefully this is a good thing for all of us. This is (obviously) my first down cycle in this industry, but we were flying empty jets about 6 months or so prior to the stock market collapse.

Here's to freight leveling off.....

jdlilfan · November 8th, 2009, 09:44

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Originally Posted by Boris Badenov

hope I'm hearing wrong but I'm hearing the uptick is almost all cash for clunkers restocking, and this temporary. Again, hope that's just more uninformed gossip.

From what I have gathered from the planes passing through for either gas or to pick up parts to take to Mexico, this is true. Unless the country decides to waste tax money again, I see the auto-part freight to be dead here soon.

On a not so good note, Seems like Kallita's lift has been good but its not the good kind of freight. We have one of those charters coming in on Monday.

JayAre · November 9th, 2009, 12:05

We've picked up a old run back in the 1900 out of Del Rio, Tx. Generally the only thing on that plane was parts going on Ford's until it got cx.

gomntwins · November 10th, 2009, 01:54

it seems like on demand is either doing great or non-existant at the moment (depending on the week), and lately that it's hard to rely on. I hope it comes back to being a reliable source of income, but I don't see that for a year or two at minimum. I hope I'm wrong.

N8389P · November 10th, 2009, 10:31

fedex paint on a 1900 is going to be done in 2 weeks from what I have been told

JayAre · November 10th, 2009, 22:31

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Originally Posted by N8389P

fedex paint on a 1900 is going to be done in 2 weeks from what I have been told

I know I get it when its done!

The Dash's are gonna look sweet also

scooter2525 · November 11th, 2009, 01:03

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Originally Posted by JayAre

The Dash's are gonna look sweet also

N8389P · November 11th, 2009, 02:42

7 more bros were bought on the 9th and being sent to STL or one of them crap holes for the finish work.

SpiraMirabilis · November 11th, 2009, 18:07

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Originally Posted by JayAre

We've picked up a old run back in the 1900 out of Del Rio, Tx. Generally the only thing on that plane was parts going on Ford's until it got cx.

I fly the MRA Caravan out of DRT, and I hope this isn't true. Theres been an AMF 99 on this route for about a month backing me up but 80% of the time he goes empty.

butt · November 13th, 2009, 15:09

lmao when i read the title of this thread i thought it said "a good terd"

turbomax97 · November 16th, 2009, 17:41

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Originally Posted by gomntwins

it seems like on demand is either doing great or non-existant at the moment (depending on the week), and lately that it's hard to rely on. I hope it comes back to being a reliable source of income, but I don't see that for a year or two at minimum. I hope I'm wrong.

Nail on head.....

In September we were sold on a trip before we woke up, and the second we were legal we were headed to the bird.... It's moderately busy now, we're doing around 2 - 3 trips a week now, we're doing on average 6 - 8k miles a week.

skatergeek · November 17th, 2009, 15:42

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Originally Posted by JayAre

Is it true were buying all the Brasllia's and 1900's we can find. Ive even heard rumors of Old Dash 8's maybe coming on board with all the new growth

When is this supposed to happen? That'd be awesome.

SpiraMirabilis · November 17th, 2009, 19:41

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Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis

I fly the MRA Caravan out of DRT, and I hope this isn't true. Theres been an AMF 99 on this route for about a month backing me up but 80% of the time he goes empty.

Welp it is true. On the plus side I'll just be SAT standby now for the forseeable future (IE peak) and after that either SAT standby or going to DFW.

Also on the plus side the guy flying the 1900 for AMF is a nice guy, initials M.P. -- he flew the 99 backing me up at DRT for about 3 weeks. Was he infected with Del Rio-itis and now can't stay away?

USMCmech · November 17th, 2009, 20:14

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Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis

Welp it is true. On the plus side I'll just be SAT standby now for the forseeable future (IE peak) and after that either SAT standby or going to DFW.

Getting bumped out of DRT isn't exactly a disaster.

Hopefully the midnight DFW sort will come back soon.

SpiraMirabilis · November 17th, 2009, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCmech

Getting bumped out of DRT isn't exactly a disaster.

Hopefully the midnight DFW sort will come back soon.

This is very true!!

Alinator · November 17th, 2009, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis

Also on the plus side the guy flying the 1900 for AMF is a nice guy, initials M.P. -- he flew the 99 backing me up at DRT for about 3 weeks. Was he infected with Del Rio-itis and now can't stay away?

About the only good thing about DRT is the short hop across to Acuna. Me and a bunch of co-workers would hop across for dental work and copious amounts of antibiotics, cheap cigarettes, etc.

I'm not sure if it is even legal, but one of the bosses I worked for (he was like 70) would buy large quantities of Viagra and smuggle them back over for the 'professional' women that came out to the ranch. Regarding legality, I was of course, referring to the first part and by 'professional' I mean fully licensed, expert flute players.

Crazy times, rich people are nuts!

November 6th, 2009, 17:25	#26
febtober29 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 30	Re: A good trend Sounds like the cargo game is back on all around. Hopefully the pax world shows some renewed life soon too To the AMFers, my feeling used to be 'i dont care what we're getting because i just want out.' now its more like 'well im totally stuck here so hopefully we get new stuff.'

November 7th, 2009, 20:19	#28
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bang'er and Bah Habah Posts: 4,208 Blog Entries: 10	Re: A good trend If in fact on-demand freight is one of the first signs of recovery, and it is increasing as much as you say it is, thats a good thing for all of us that are trying to find jobs, such as yours truly. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

November 7th, 2009, 22:38	#29
Boris Badenov Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: A-Town Down Posts: 2,737	Re: A good trend hope I'm hearing wrong but I'm hearing the uptick is almost all cash for clunkers restocking, and this temporary. Again, hope that's just more uninformed gossip. __________________ JCQR 8,023 "An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur?" - Axel Oxenstierna

November 7th, 2009, 23:46	#30
Polar742 Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rockledge Posts: 3,147	Re: A good trend Well, just a few things One, most stuff through HACTL isn't "on-demand" stuff. Second, I don't fly for an "on-demand" company, we fly DHL express. I've been jumping alot on FedEx, and those guys are reporting the same. Big Airplanes flying scheduled and express freight are filling up. Third, we all know capacity is being cut, but it seems that the actual freight is leveling off. Emirates wanted more flying for peak, which cause Atlas to recall 15. It's been this way since March. I think there will be fits and spurts, but everything seems to be starting to stabilize. The planes have been consistently full for 8 or 9 months now, and there are still companies cutting. I'm not saying there will be growth, but I think we may have leveled off. There may be some more minor declines, but I'm thinking movement in the sub 5% range for awhile in either direction, the -28% stuff seems to be over. Hopefully this is a good thing for all of us. This is (obviously) my first down cycle in this industry, but we were flying empty jets about 6 months or so prior to the stock market collapse. Here's to freight leveling off.....

November 9th, 2009, 12:05	#32
JayAre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Multiple Posts: 1,314	Re: A good trend We've picked up a old run back in the 1900 out of Del Rio, Tx. Generally the only thing on that plane was parts going on Ford's until it got cx.

November 10th, 2009, 01:54	#33
gomntwins Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Dakota Posts: 753	Re: A good trend it seems like on demand is either doing great or non-existant at the moment (depending on the week), and lately that it's hard to rely on. I hope it comes back to being a reliable source of income, but I don't see that for a year or two at minimum. I hope I'm wrong.

November 10th, 2009, 10:31	#34
N8389P Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KAPV AppleValley Posts: 167	Re: A good trend fedex paint on a 1900 is going to be done in 2 weeks from what I have been told

November 11th, 2009, 02:42	#37
N8389P Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KAPV AppleValley Posts: 167	Re: A good trend 7 more bros were bought on the 9th and being sent to STL or one of them crap holes for the finish work.

November 13th, 2009, 15:09	#39
butt Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: . Posts: 497	Re: A good trend lmao when i read the title of this thread i thought it said "a good terd"

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