Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear?

USMC-SGT · June 22nd, 2008, 14:30

I read that Airnet is CASS approved but was not sure how it worked.

I am attempting to make it to EWR this evening but possibly forsee some problems getting there unless I gave up the whole day to fly out early. I see that the lear does BOS to TEB which is close enough but not sure how it works.

I know that besides the lear all of their fleet is single pilot so unless they are using an SIC you could occupy the right seat on those but what about the lear? With the CA and FO occupying both seats is there sometype of jumpseat stuck somewhere in there or does it not apply in that a/c?

Flying out of BOS tonight, if it were possible to jump on airnet how would I do it and who would I list with? I will already be at BOS trying to grab the 7pm xjet to EWR and then my backup is an 8 to LGA and an 8:30 to LGA and then my last backup is the 8:45 on Honda Accord. It would be handy if those flights all fell through I could just walk over to the fedex area cargo ramp and grab a ride.

Can it be done? What is the procedure if it can be done?

USMC-SGT · June 22nd, 2008, 16:47

PMs received thanks alot guys

SoCalAprch · June 22nd, 2008, 17:57

I also had the same question about how to get set up on the jump seat. Any info much appreciated.

inside0ut · June 22nd, 2008, 19:09

Not to jump on the bandwagon here but if anyone could throw some info my way also about JS on Airnet, I would really appreciate it. I have thought about doing it before to get home when I cant get anything else out but I have no idea where to start....

minitour · June 23rd, 2008, 04:51

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Originally Posted by inside0ut

...I have no idea where to start....

Bribes.

Cookies are always good.

-mini

scooter2525 · June 23rd, 2008, 05:33

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Originally Posted by minitour

Bribes.

Cookies are always good.

-mini

haha or a few redbulls to make it through the night

mikecweb · June 24th, 2008, 09:14

I'm in Maine right now with a spotty internet connection.
I'll reply in this thread with more info.

PatrickCPS · June 27th, 2008, 22:32

So do the rest of get to hear how this is done

mikecweb · June 28th, 2008, 03:24

So yeah.
You need to be a pilot with a part 135/121 airline.
Your airline needs to have a reciprocal jumpseat agreement with Airnet.
Airnet is CASS approved. Part 135 On Demand with a system running M-TH. There are some flights on Friday and the weekend but they are scattered.
All Learjets have 2 jumpseats, one of them has three seats.
All props have one jumpseat, some 'jos have 2.

Please PM me or another Airnet pilot for the listing number.

Boris Badenov · June 28th, 2008, 15:53

What level of red tape is involved in getting a "reciprocal agreement" with you guys? I know we take airnet guys and southwest guys out of MDW fairly often (I can let Charles Manson in the other seat if I want, I just have to tell the boss), but I don't think we have any "official" agreement. I know there's no way my boss is going to pay for a coordinator, but if it's relatively simple and I can do it for free, he might go for it. If it requires CASS, might as well forget it.

mikecweb · June 28th, 2008, 18:31

Check your PMs.

ZapBrannigan · June 28th, 2008, 20:59

Do the Airnet lears have a headset/microphone jack and audio panel for the jumpseat occupant? There are jacks for headsets on the aft of the pedestal in our lear 31a's, but the maintenance guys say they're not connected to anything...

mikecweb · June 28th, 2008, 21:00

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Do the Airnet lears have a headset/microphone jack and audio panel for the jumpseat occupant? There are jacks for headsets on the aft of the pedestal in our lear 31a's, but the maintenance guys say they're not connected to anything...

We do not.
Some crews use ear plugs and the overhead speaker while others use the intercomm but it's only for the pilots.

ZapBrannigan · June 28th, 2008, 21:12

I wondered how you do line checks if the check airmen can't plug in? (That's really what I was trying to get at. We wanted our observation people to have a better system then trying to plug an intercom built for a Seminole into the copilot audio panel)

Boris Badenov · July 2nd, 2008, 10:48

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Originally Posted by mickecweb

intercomm

Even more alien technology from our alien overlords at Airnet Systems. I for one welcome you to Earth and am anxious to learn the use of these "intercomms" "RNAVs" and "GPSes" to control the minds of the human cattle.

mikecweb · July 2nd, 2008, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov

Even more alien technology from our alien overlords at Airnet Systems. I for one welcome you to Earth and am anxious to learn the use of these "intercomms" "RNAVs" and "GPSes" to control the minds of the human cattle.

Damn even most of the Barons have that "new" technology.
Some of the old school captains still don't believe in the intercomms and use the handmics and ear plugs.

Stone Cold · July 2nd, 2008, 23:20

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Originally Posted by mikecweb

Damn even most of the Barons have that "new" technology.
Some of the old school captains still don't believe in the intercomms and use the handmics and ear plugs.

Young buck, I can see you doing the earplugs and handmic thing... are you "old school like that"?

Personally, I am an ANR protect my hearing at all costs because I'm gonna be deaf like Kendall's Cappie is...

(used to be the pilots I picked up out of CLT going to LCK), and Kendall was my classmate from indoc at the Net!!!!

mikecweb · July 3rd, 2008, 07:57

Both of them aren't at Airnet anymore.
Kendall went to NetJets when our pilots still were competitive over there. And the skipper got out of flying.

Ian J · July 3rd, 2008, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris Badenov

Even more alien technology from our alien overlords at Airnet Systems. I for one welcome you to Earth and am anxious to learn the use of these "intercomms" "RNAVs" and "GPSes" to control the minds of the human cattle.

From my last flight at Airnet:

June 22nd, 2008, 14:30	#1
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,065	Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? I read that Airnet is CASS approved but was not sure how it worked. I am attempting to make it to EWR this evening but possibly forsee some problems getting there unless I gave up the whole day to fly out early. I see that the lear does BOS to TEB which is close enough but not sure how it works. I know that besides the lear all of their fleet is single pilot so unless they are using an SIC you could occupy the right seat on those but what about the lear? With the CA and FO occupying both seats is there sometype of jumpseat stuck somewhere in there or does it not apply in that a/c? Flying out of BOS tonight, if it were possible to jump on airnet how would I do it and who would I list with? I will already be at BOS trying to grab the 7pm xjet to EWR and then my backup is an 8 to LGA and an 8:30 to LGA and then my last backup is the 8:45 on Honda Accord. It would be handy if those flights all fell through I could just walk over to the fedex area cargo ramp and grab a ride. Can it be done? What is the procedure if it can be done? __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

June 22nd, 2008, 16:47	#2
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,065	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? PMs received thanks alot guys __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

June 22nd, 2008, 17:57	#3
SoCalAprch Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: CMH Posts: 783	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? I also had the same question about how to get set up on the jump seat. Any info much appreciated. __________________ Florence Y'all

June 22nd, 2008, 19:09	#4
inside0ut Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PIT Posts: 474	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? Not to jump on the bandwagon here but if anyone could throw some info my way also about JS on Airnet, I would really appreciate it. I have thought about doing it before to get home when I cant get anything else out but I have no idea where to start....

June 27th, 2008, 22:32	#8
PatrickCPS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City MO Posts: 370	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? So do the rest of get to hear how this is done __________________ Patrick Lee www.careerpilotschool.com

June 28th, 2008, 15:53	#10
Boris Badenov Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Saint Loser, Misery Posts: 775	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? What level of red tape is involved in getting a "reciprocal agreement" with you guys? I know we take airnet guys and southwest guys out of MDW fairly often (I can let Charles Manson in the other seat if I want, I just have to tell the boss), but I don't think we have any "official" agreement. I know there's no way my boss is going to pay for a coordinator, but if it's relatively simple and I can do it for free, he might go for it. If it requires CASS, might as well forget it.

June 28th, 2008, 20:59	#12
ZapBrannigan Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mom n' Pop Retailer Posts: 822	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? Do the Airnet lears have a headset/microphone jack and audio panel for the jumpseat occupant? There are jacks for headsets on the aft of the pedestal in our lear 31a's, but the maintenance guys say they're not connected to anything... __________________ ATP Types (LRJET / B737 / SF340 / BAe3101) SIC (DC9 / CRJ / D328) CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, Aircraft Dispatcher.

June 28th, 2008, 21:12	#14
ZapBrannigan Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mom n' Pop Retailer Posts: 822	Re: Airnet: Jumpseat on the lear? I wondered how you do line checks if the check airmen can't plug in? (That's really what I was trying to get at. We wanted our observation people to have a better system then trying to plug an intercom built for a Seminole into the copilot audio panel) __________________ ATP Types (LRJET / B737 / SF340 / BAe3101) SIC (DC9 / CRJ / D328) CFI, CFII, MEI, AGI, IGI, Aircraft Dispatcher.

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