Ameriflight W&B

[tbmpilot]

Hey AMF guys/gals,

I start BIGS in Burbank on 1/7/08. Really looking forward to it. Does anyone have a scan of the W&B pages from the Chieftain and/or 99? I wrote a PC program years ago to do W&B and I'd like to begin to get a feel for the loading parameters. I'll share the program if you'll share some data...

Is anyone else starting BIGS on 1/7? Let's get in touch.

Question about shoes. What do you guys wear for comfort/waterproof/survival issues versus complement to the uniform???

Also, AMF facial hair? Any policy?

Thanks!

[jtrain609]

Enjoy Bob's indoc class, he's legendary at Amflight.

Good luck trying to get the W&B into a PDA, I know a 99 guy that did it but it took him a long, long, long time. The paper stuff works fine and you can do a W&B in under a minute in the Chieftain without much of a problem. Just carry a calculator with you and you'll be fine.

I wore Sketchers dress boots and Dickie's navy blue pants.

No facial hair, you'll have to get rid of it before your ride. You'll also be wearing a uniform when you're at work and if you work outta Burbank...otherwise no other base wears the tie

Enjoy, the training is excellent.

[minitour]

Wait.

AMF makes their pilots wear a pilot uniform?

Wow.











































...Why?

-mini

[mikecweb]

I'm sure someone will chime in here but I've been told it's because of the UPS contracts they have.

[jtrain609]

I was always told it was because the company president liked the look of the uniform.

[Zephyr]

I know Airnet has at least one UPS contract (731)...

Originally Posted by mikecweb

I'm sure someone will chime in here but I've been told it's because of the UPS contracts they have.

[tbmpilot]

What? No one else on this board is in the class beginning 1/7???

I heard there were 12 signed up. I need to find out who the competition is.

[jtrain609]

The only competition is with yourself.

Doubtful that there would be anybody else around here. There are not a ton of Amflight pilots on here.

[KLB]

Originally Posted by tbmpilot

Question about shoes. What do you guys wear for comfort/waterproof/survival issues versus complement to the uniform???

Also, AMF facial hair? Any policy?

Thanks!

My roomate, who is now a training captain, developed a W&B program for the chieftan when we came through indoc. You'd probably be faster just doing it by hand.

I used to wear the whole dickies pants and boots deal. The dickies fade to fast and the uniform looks tacky. So I've changed to dress slacks and a sturdy pair of dress shoes with rubber soles. I jumpseat a lot. So I make sure I look sharper than the RJ pilots when I walk through an airport terminal. The dickies just weren't cuttin' it. The target specials work ok, but they are having a hard time holding up to being washed over and over again.

I keep a clean face. I think that you probably could have a mustache it you'd like.

[jtrain609]

Who was your room mate? I can't even remember who the heck was in your class besides Austin and Ken.

EDIT: Wait, was it Rick?

[KLB]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Who was your room mate? I can't even remember who the heck was in your class besides Austin and Ken.

EDIT: Wait, was it Rick?

Yep

[JayAre]

Yes you have wear a uniform

And a stupid tie

Don't worry bout a PDA W&B do it by hand besides you get real good at it if you fly 101 or if 132 comes back to life.

Trust me I know

You get to wear nice navy blue janitor dickies pant.

And a stupid tie

Did I mention the tie is stupid


Wear a coat you don't care about to protect the nice white aviator shirt


My uniform now is under a big black Carhart Artic zip up bibs and a blue carhart navy sweater which is under a old goretex jacket and no tie

You can tell I hate the uniform and the tie doesn't make sense when its 10 below in Jackson Hole freezing your hole off unloading dirty boxes!

Enjoy BIGS and don't let Bob get to you

Some of the funnest flying and great friends will be made here


Enjoy!

[tbmpilot]

Originally Posted by JayAre

Yes you have wear a uniform

And a stupid tie

Don't worry bout a PDA W&B do it by hand besides you get real good at it if you fly 101 or if 132 comes back to life.

Trust me I know

You get to wear nice navy blue janitor dickies pant.

And a stupid tie

Did I mention the tie is stupid


Wear a coat you don't care about to protect the nice white aviator shirt


My uniform now is under a big black Carhart Artic zip up bibs and a blue carhart navy sweater which is under a old goretex jacket and no tie

You can tell I hate the uniform and the tie doesn't make sense when its 10 below in Jackson Hole freezing your hole off unloading dirty boxes!

Enjoy BIGS and don't let Bob get to you

Some of the funnest flying and great friends will be made here


Enjoy!

Hope I get to meet you. You're a riot

[minitour]

I wonder what the ties are like.

-mini

[jtrain609]

Navy Blue, you can have mine if you want. Amflight finally requested my badge back and took me off of PTOC status!

[tbmpilot]

Originally Posted by minitour

I wonder what the ties are like.

-mini

According to JayAre, a band of decorative fabric worn around the neck, under the collar, and tied in front to hang down the front of a shirt, that is tediously dull, inane, pointless, annoying or irritating and troublesome.

[KLB]

Originally Posted by minitour

I wonder what the ties are like.

-mini

Clip on and in the bag as soon as I'm in the aircraft.......or at an outstation.

I can't tell you the amount of times that I was tossing a bank bag and the tie went right out of the cargo door along with the bag.

[minitour]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Navy Blue, you can have mine if you want. Amflight finally requested my badge back and took me off of PTOC status!

uh...I think I'll pass. Thanks though.

Originally Posted by tbmpilot

According to JayAre, a band of decorative fabric worn around the neck, under the collar, and tied in front to hang down the front of a shirt, that is tediously dull, inane, pointless, annoying or irritating and troublesome.

heh heh heh

Originally Posted by KLB

Clip on and in the bag as soon as I'm in the aircraft.......or at an outstation.

I can't tell you the amount of times that I was tossing a bank bag and the tie went right out of the cargo door along with the bag.

I could only imagine.

-mini

[tbmpilot]

JayAre,

Is a guy going to be on reserve right now out of Burbank, or what's the most likely route(s) the junior guy is going to carry?

[JayAre]

You won't be on reserve. Plan to head to OAK or PDX tdy for several weeks. My first three weeks was at BFI in Jan. To be honest it scared the #### out of me. You won't see reserve in BUR for a long time. Also plan to leave between both ONT and BUR. When you get the 99 you will be dual based there. Enjoy it!

BTW I really can't remember what happened to my tie. I think I tossed it out the window when I hit the stateline leaving Cali waving the finger also.

[250blue]

Bob absolutely loves guys who ask tons of questions - even if he seems cranky at first just keep asking. He'll love you by the end of groundschool.

[Autofeather]

250Blue why does that last post seem to have a bit of sarcasm to it? you arent trying to lure the poor guy into a false sense of security are you?

[Hootie]

Bob loves questions, it's the fastest way to get you noticed. Do the W&B by hand it'll be faster and after two weeks on any run you'll be able to just plug in random numbers by memory and always be in CG. Also when thinking of TDY don't forget the always available podunk Texas outstations...can you say "ICE STORM". Screw the tie, but wear it on the ramp for your first few months there. Have fun and don't park in Hazlett's parking space!

[250blue]

Also, Hootie was kidding. Hazlet loves when you park in his spot - gives him a real laugh. I would suggest volunteering for the DAL-Pampa TDY assignment, lots to do in Pampa!