Airnet part-time pilot positions?

[jrh]

I just set up my college class schedule today and was pleasantly surprised to find out I'll have Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays almost entirely wide open next semester.

I live near OMA (Omaha, Nebraska) and see Airnet has several runs in and out of there.

I have IFR Part 135 PIC minimums, with about 40 hours of multi.

I also see on the Airnet web site that they hire part time pilots.



So, the question is, do you think they'd be interested in me on a 3-day per week basis out of Omaha?

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by jrh

I just set up my college class schedule today and was pleasantly surprised to find out I'll have Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays almost entirely wide open next semester.

I live near OMA (Omaha, Nebraska) and see Airnet has several runs in and out of there.

I have IFR Part 135 PIC minimums, with about 40 hours of multi.

I also see on the Airnet web site that they hire part time pilots.



So, the question is, do you think they'd be interested in me on a 3-day per week basis out of Omaha?

We don't have any runs out of Omaha.

[jrh]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

We don't have any runs out of Omaha.

Oh...I'm confused now...

This link:

http://www.airnet.com/Operations/Rou...oute_large.htm

Shows 4 runs in and out of OMA. Do you know if AirNet has a contract with another company to cover this flying maybe?

[Stone Cold]

Originally Posted by jrh

Oh...I'm confused now...

This link:

http://www.airnet.com/Operations/Rou...oute_large.htm

Shows 4 runs in and out of OMA. Do you know if AirNet has a contract with another company to cover this flying maybe?

It's probably still contracted out to Central Air. It shows on the routes to show where we (they, sorry) CAN ship, not where pilots are based. Look in the pilot section under bases and you'll see STP is the closest base, I believe.

Of course, things have changed over the last 9 months, but I think it's fairly accurate.

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Stone Cold

It's probably still contracted out to Central Air. It shows on the routes to show where we (they, sorry) CAN ship, not where pilots are based. Look in the pilot section under bases and you'll see STP is the closest base, I believe.

Of course, things have changed over the last 9 months, but I think it's fairly accurate.

Probably chartered out.
We did have a run out of Tulsa for about a year.
The last time that map was updated I think was 2001.

[ackeight]

Isn't part time for former Airnet pilots?

[jrh]

Ok, I guess Airnet won't work for me. Thanks for the replies anyway!

[ackeight]

Plus unless you have classes from 7p.m.-7a.m. it would be hell for you to switch back and forth between days and nights. Also, it wouldn't be too safe.

[Doug Taylor]

Not that I'm endorsing it, but I do know a guy that was able to make something like that work. But that was probably 25 years ago.

[ljg]

That man or woman must have been incredibly organized. It would be nearly impossible to go to grad school and then do a 14 hour duty day. But maybe with an out an back and an 8 hour sit, and classes during early evenings/weekends, it could work out.

This brings me to something else I've been wondering. Mike, do you find that you're less fatigued now that you're in a multi-crew environment when you compare it to your single-pilot days in CPS? (Old) 243 used to have a pretty long duty day. Thanks-

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by ljg

That man or woman must have been incredibly organized. It would be nearly impossible to go to grad school and then do a 14 hour duty day. But maybe with an out an back and an 8 hour sit, and classes during early evenings/weekends, it could work out.

This brings me to something else I've been wondering. Mike, do you find that you're less fatigued now that you're in a multi-crew environment when you compare it to your single-pilot days in CPS? (Old) 243 used to have a pretty long duty day. Thanks-

I seriously feel like I barely work.
I have a 8.5 hour duty day and 4 hours of flying.
243 used to have 11.5 and 5.6.
I honestly think being fatigued is just a state of mind. If you sleep all the time you are always going to be groggy. I operate everyday on about 4.5-5 hours of sleep and I'm 100% awake. I sometimes need to squeeze a nap in if my sleep was interupted by some kid playing out in the street. Death threats usually solve that lil problem though.
Honestly the only thing i don't like about night flying is it kills the social life. I just recently broke up with the GF because we never saw each other and then were barely talking because of the different schedules. Plus moving to a new city where I don't know anyone it's kinda hard to meet people when typical social settings IE bars and what not aren't really available because of our schedule.
It's all good though. I still love my job and can't wait to goto work everyday. During my free time I'm either working with jumpseat issues or "other stuff".

[gomntwins]

[quote=ljg;726791]That man or woman must have been incredibly organized. It would be nearly impossible to go to grad school and then do a 14 hour duty day. But maybe with an out an back and an 8 hour sit, and classes during early evenings/weekends, it could work out.

QUOTE]


The best option for going to school and flying, imo, would be to get an outstation UPS route or something similar (fedex has the same I know... not sure about DHL). Usually you start monday night and fly through Sat. morning. Fly out late evening, sleep alway from home... usually 6-7 hours, and fly back early morning. Spend all day at home and sleep at work. It's what I do. Not the best schedule... but honestly, I have enough time during the day to work a full time job on top of my full time flying job. I don't do that-- I sit on my butt and watch TV. But, if you want to finish college and fly it's an OK option. The trick is finding an outstation at a place where you want to go to school.

[mnixon]

Maybe I'll pick up some part time to pay for all these trips to Bed Bath and Beyond.

[ctab5060X]

Originally Posted by gomntwins

The best option for going to school and flying, imo, would be to get an outstation UPS route or something similar (fedex has the same I know... not sure about DHL). Usually you start monday night and fly through Sat. morning. Fly out late evening, sleep alway from home... usually 6-7 hours, and fly back early morning. Spend all day at home and sleep at work. It's what I do. Not the best schedule... but honestly, I have enough time during the day to work a full time job on top of my full time flying job. I don't do that-- I sit on my butt and watch TV. But, if you want to finish college and fly it's an OK option. The trick is finding an outstation at a place where you want to go to school.

I had a route like that for UPS and it would have been very feasible to attend some classes during they day. I know of several pilots that have done this before. They said it was hard, you had to manage your sleep and study, but it was all worth it. Furthermore, most UPS runs require and "in position" time at the outstation of an hour before departure. Once you check the weather and preflight, you could still have almost a half hour to sit at the airplane or FBO and read study material.

[jknight8907]

[quote=gomntwins;727663]

Originally Posted by ljg

That man or woman must have been incredibly organized. It would be nearly impossible to go to grad school and then do a 14 hour duty day. But maybe with an out an back and an 8 hour sit, and classes during early evenings/weekends, it could work out.

QUOTE]


The best option for going to school and flying, imo, would be to get an outstation UPS route or something similar (fedex has the same I know... not sure about DHL). Usually you start monday night and fly through Sat. morning. Fly out late evening, sleep alway from home... usually 6-7 hours, and fly back early morning. Spend all day at home and sleep at work. It's what I do. Not the best schedule... but honestly, I have enough time during the day to work a full time job on top of my full time flying job. I don't do that-- I sit on my butt and watch TV. But, if you want to finish college and fly it's an OK option. The trick is finding an outstation at a place where you want to go to school.

Could you elaborate on these kinds of positions, please? For example what companies fly these feeder routes, what are the mins, etc.

Thanks

[gomntwins]

[quote=jknight8907;730625]

Originally Posted by gomntwins

Could you elaborate on these kinds of positions, please? For example what companies fly these feeder routes, what are the mins, etc.

Thanks

The mins, for the most part, are going to be 1200 tt, 500cc, 75 instr... etc. Those are for the single pilot jobs out there. Ameriflight has some of those routes, Keylime has some oustations as well (here you get get an outstation job with something like 500 hours as an FO on the metro). In the midwest, Planemasters has some, encore air cargo, bemidji aviation, and freight runners express I know all have outstations.

The fedex caravans have outstations as well... I know corporate air was looking for pilots. Same with Moutain Aircargo, CSA, etc. I'm guessing Wiggins would be in this same boat, not sure though. The caravan mins are 2000tt I believe for fedex feeders-- not sure if they have/can lower these mins. As of a few years ago 2000 was a firm number.

Also, the fedex feeder ATR pilots (and those old ugly things some of the feeders fly--the fokker something or other) are looking for FO's. I know empire is. I think there mins are 1000-1500tt and 500-1000 multi. They have outstations where school would be doable. Mountain Air cargo and wiggins are the same, I believe.

That's just a few. There are some smaller operators with one-two routes for UPS. I wish I had a good way to come up with the outstations/operators- but i don't, but those would be some companies to start with. Good luck!