How not to interview?

[Ian J]

Any Airnet pilots hear about some 300 hour interviewee who freaked out when he missed his flight home, caused a ruckus with the Asst CPs, claimed he couldn't sleep in the snooze room while he waited for another flight, and was a general pain in the butt? And this after a poor sim evaluation? I flew this guy to TEB last week, but just learned this (unsubstantiated) info tonight.

[JEP]

300 hours, riding right seat and complaining about this and that....You're right, maybe he was researching a book on how not to be hired....

[ljg]

Maybe after the sim portion he said "ef it, these guys will remember me".
Hopefully things work out for him one way or the other.

[mikecweb]

Yeah.
We all had a pretty good chuckle about it leavin the meet.
Guy was a tool. Strongly doubt he will ever work for this company. We're desperate. Not that desperate though.

[yardman]

Yeah that was extremely not called for. Wish him all the best in his career. He has a surprise coming to him.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

Yeah.
We all had a pretty good chuckle about it leavin the meet.
Guy was a tool. Strongly doubt he will ever work for this company. We're desperate. Not that desperate though.

When I flew him to TEB I asked him how the interview went.

"Pretty good," he said.

[minitour]

I'm reluctant to pass judgement on people with a "poor sim evaluation".

I've never used a NACO chart, so I had some problems finding the information when I needed it. As a result:
I needed an extra turn in the hold to finish reading the VOR-A chart.
I went missed 100' high on the ILS when I could have landed from it.
Altitude (and consequently airspeed) were all over the place.

...the next day I got the call.

If he had a "poor sim evaluation", I can't imagine what y'all're saying about me.

-mini

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by minitour

I'm reluctant to pass judgement on people with a "poor sim evaluation".

I've never used a NACO chart, so I had some problems finding the information when I needed it. As a result:
I needed an extra turn in the hold to finish reading the VOR-A chart.
I went missed 100' high on the ILS when I could have landed from it.
Altitude (and consequently airspeed) were all over the place.

...the next day I got the call.

If he had a "poor sim evaluation", I can't imagine what y'all're saying about me.

-mini

Your "poor" sim eval sounds like good decision making on your part. The altitude and airspeed deviations are fixable, I'm sure.

My idea of a bad interview sim eval is when someone gives up, or someone who simply has no clue how to make a command decision.

Everyone knows that Frasca is a biotch to fly.

[ackeight]

Haha. Make his A$$ go home commercially if he didn't like it. Biatch

[minitour]

Originally Posted by Ian J

Everyone knows that Frasca is a biotch to fly.

Yeah, that I found out too. You'd think in 1500 hours of dual I would have seen a Frasca. What a PITA! I was tired after "flying" that thing.

-mini

[Doug Taylor]

Yowza. I can see the "Dear Dough" email already.

Word to the wise? All of the recruiters, whether they'll admit it or not, communicate.

So if you make a big poopy head out of yourself at Carrier A and then interview at Carrier B, there is a good probability that Carrier B's already had the "OMG Frank, let me tell you about this interview yesterday".

[minitour]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Yowza. I can see the "Dear Dough" email already.

Word to the wise? All of the recruiters, whether they'll admit it or not, communicate.

So if you make a big poopy head out of yourself at Carrier A and then interview at Carrier B, there is a good probability that Carrier B's already had the "OMG Frank, let me tell you about this interview yesterday".

hahah yeah the industry is pretty "tight" as it is, I can only imagine what happens "behind closed doors"

Hey, he had 300 hours...I'm assuming he's a young guy. He'll learn. We all started somewhere.

-mini

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by minitour

hahah yeah the industry is pretty "tight" as it is, I can only imagine what happens "behind closed doors"

Hey, he had 300 hours...I'm assuming he's a young guy. He'll learn. We all started somewhere.

-mini

I don't think he was young, at least he didn't look young. I think he figured he'd walk into Airnet and expect it to be an easier interview then a regional. He got frustrated and then the whining began. These are the same type of guys that see our facility and airplanes and think it's great right up until they get rejected. Then we are unsafe, flying crappy airplanes, through horrible weather, and we are all suicidal because the company makes us fly through anything. They get all of this of course by just looking.

[Seggy]

He started whining, complaining, and acting like a fool when he found out AirNet doesn't have RJs! He wanted to fly a 'regional' Jet!




(sorry had to bring that up! I still love everyone )

[n57flyguy]

Originally Posted by Seggy

He started whining, complaining, and acting like a fool when he found out AirNet doesn't have RJs! He wanted to fly a 'regional' Jet!




(sorry had to bring that up! I still love everyone )

AirNet doesn't have RJs?????

[mikecweb]

On two seperate occasions we had intervieweeeees that were astounded that we could get from Teterhole,, NJ to Columbus, OH in a Lear 35 without a moving map GPS.

[minitour]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

On two seperate occasions we had intervieweeeees that were astounded that we could get from Teterhole,, NJ to Columbus, OH in a Lear 35 without a moving map GPS.

Those are the guys that will be driving my family and 149 other people around from the front of a boeing or airbus product some day.

That's a comforting thought....

-mini

[ljg]

Teter-hole? But you gotta have a GPS there, you just gotta!

[killbilly]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

On two seperate occasions we had intervieweeeees that were astounded that we could get from Teterhole,, NJ to Columbus, OH in a Lear 35 without a moving map GPS.

Say it ain't so, Joe!

Heh. That's funny. Y'know. There's a REASON the FAA tests PPL candidates on at least basic NDB/ADF navigation. Wrapping my head around THAT has made VORs look easy.

[BuickCFI]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

On two seperate occasions we had intervieweeeees that were astounded that we could get from Teterhole,, NJ to Columbus, OH in a Lear 35 without a moving map GPS.

it annoys the crap out of me when my students can't fly the aiplane w/o it the moving map. i take it away and they just can't fly the freaking airplane. it really pisses me off when they try to bring up 4 moving maps as if 1 wasn't enough (MFD, PFD, 2x Garmin 430's) i will just start turning things off

[jtrain609]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

On two seperate occasions we had intervieweeeees that were astounded that we could get from Teterhole,, NJ to Columbus, OH in a Lear 35 without a moving map GPS.

They shouldn't apply to Northwest then. I sat up front on one of their diesel 9's and I think Amflight's Metro's were better equipped

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

They shouldn't apply to Northwest then. I sat up front on one of their diesel 9's and I think Amflight's Metro's were better equipped

That's what we told them. You always hear those guys asking for headings. We at least have an enroute IFR GPS. And there is talk about us getting Garmin 400s fleet wide. You should hear the senior captains raising cane about it though. These guys are so old school they'll probably just turn them off because they don't wanna learn something new. I guess that's what happens when you have 25,000 hours in airplanes built in the early 70s. They still think the 35 is a button pushing airplane compared to the 20 series.

[mnixon]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

That's what we told them. You always hear those guys asking for headings. We at least have an enroute IFR GPS. And there is talk about us getting Garmin 400s fleet wide. You should hear the senior captains raising cane about it though. These guys are so old school they'll probably just turn them off because they don't wanna learn something new. I guess that's what happens when you have 25,000 hours in airplanes built in the early 70s. They still think the 35 is a button pushing airplane compared to the 20 series.

You get that everywhere mike. Going from Laredo to North Carolina a while ago, I asked the captain couple the autopilot to the GPS. He said it didn't work, never does, don't trust it, we'll try it to show you. 1200 miles later and we tracked straight! Old guys are scared of new things because they don't take the time to understand them. After all that he looked at me and said, "I've never seen it work before, prolly a fluke!" Yea.

[mikecweb]

Yeah I figured as much.
How's the Falcon?

[mnixon]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

Yeah I figured as much.
How's the Falcon?

Good, I just watched the morning news in a bar. Nuff said.