Airnet SICs

[mninstructor]

For 135 xc is any point to point stuff rather than 50nm so if he figures that in that will get hime closer. Beyond that I'm sure we would be happy to hire him. He would have to sic till he got the xc time but 250 hours is a lot less sic time than the 700+ some guys will be doing here. I've also seen a few pilots who had 1200 but had to sic to get the night time requirement so it happens.

[nocturnalaviator]

Damn I wish I had learned about this earlier I only have 320tt and just received a class date... i'm a little discouraged now reading all of that. Oh well, i'll just learn what I can and suck it up till PIC. One question for you guys, how do they do the bidding for SICs?

[ljg]

They basically stick you on a high time baron run. If there's more than one available, you'll get your choice. But, honestly...one thing at a time man.
Congratulations on your class offer! Study hard, work as a team, and make sure you all get through IPTP together. I would suggest if possible not to think *for one second* about down the road, because it will eat at your limited free time and distract you from your immediate task. There's a few guys on here who I'm sure will be glad to help you through the process if you have any questions.

[nocturnalaviator]

Thank you very much! One thing at a time is right! I'm very excited to start off this way, learn anything i can to be my best. I'm not a proud individual, I have nothing to prove, but everything to learn. Where are the high time baron runs? I live in NJ and would be nice to get philly as I saw there were a couple barons there. But if relocation is mandatory so be it, im up for adventure.

[murphfly]

Originally Posted by nocturnalaviator

Thank you very much! One thing at a time is right! I'm very excited to start off this way, learn anything i can to be my best. I'm not a proud individual, I have nothing to prove, but everything to learn. Where are the high time baron runs? I live in NJ and would be nice to get philly as I saw there were a couple barons there. But if relocation is mandatory so be it, im up for adventure.

There's a good Baron run out of PHL. One of my friends SIC'd on it a while back. Good luck! When do you go to class?

[nocturnalaviator]

Nov 26

[murphfly]

Originally Posted by nocturnalaviator

Nov 26

I wanted to ask you a question. Why come to Airnet with 320TT?

[nocturnalaviator]

Why not they hired me? Ask AirNet that question. Its a job and like i said i'm not proud. My location was slow so flight time wasn't as best as I had hoped to be, but I gave it a shot and got a date.

[APACHEpilot]

Nocturnalaviator if you don't mind me asking out of the 320tt how much of it is multi . I too am looking at applying at airnet but I want to flight instruct and build some time . You must had done a good sim eval ?

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by nocturnalaviator

Why not they hired me? Ask AirNet that question. Its a job and like i said i'm not proud. My location was slow so flight time wasn't as best as I had hoped to be, but I gave it a shot and got a date.

That's really not what he asked. He wasn't flaming ya, bud - he was wondering why YOU personally would want to SIC that long? You sort of answered it with the slow flight time part, but not really.


The answer to "why do you want to work at Airnet" isn't "because they hired me."

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Ian J

The answer to "why do you want to work at Airnet" isn't "because they hired me."

Actually Ian, I think that is his answer.

[nocturnalaviator]

Sorry if I took the question the wrong way. I went with AirNet because a few of AirNet's pilots came to ATP for an ATP written, I asked questions and they had a positive attitude about the company and said it's a great company to start out with. I've wanted to fly cargo ever since the beginning of flight training. I knew that I didn't want to start out as an airline FO monitoring guages the whole time, I wanted to get hands on experience in the elements, I wanted a challenge and most importantly I wanted to be the best at what i do. I heard that there were no minimum hour requirements so i put in my resume and said what the hell and gave it a shot. I got a call for an interview and showed up prepared as best as i could. I took the test, flew the best I could in the sim, and had a positive attitude in the HR interview. I really liked what I saw at AirNet and figured SIC is better than nothing at all. I don't care how long I SIC, I've got a potential job and I'm starting out somewhere. I have a dream and I'm taking every opportunity to fulfill it. My choice, whatever it takes. Thanks for the encouragement!

[nocturnalaviator]

Originally Posted by APACHEpilot

Nocturnalaviator if you don't mind me asking out of the 320tt how much of it is multi . I too am looking at applying at airnet but I want to flight instruct and build some time . You must had done a good sim eval ?

230 multi

[nocturnalaviator]

Let me also add that every regional pilot that came to ATP to fly with me to prepare for the ATP practical, 9 times outta 10 they had a bad attitude about what they do, their lifestyle, their company, just EVERYTHING. Complain, complain, complain! I know that I can't base my opinions on just the ones i've met but when I asked a few AirNet pilots of how they liked it the majority surprised me with a positive outlook. I guess that is another reason why I chose to fly with AirNet, its got some good positive energy, from what I saw.

[murphfly]

Originally Posted by nocturnalaviator

Why not they hired me? Ask AirNet that question. Its a job and like i said i'm not proud. My location was slow so flight time wasn't as best as I had hoped to be, but I gave it a shot and got a date.

I really wasn't meaning to be rude or anything...sorry if it came off that way. It was just a serious question.

I find myself saying it more and more often, "Enjoy the ride!" You keep trying and trying to get to the 'next level' and forget that what you're doing right now is a ton of fun. For you, it's I can't wait to be Prop PIC at Airnet. For me, it's I can't wait to be Jet SIC. I used to get lost in the race for hours and watching the seniorty list, and I'd forget why I'm doing this. But then I remind myself, ENJOY THE RIDE! Don't be in a hurry b/c you'll rush and rush and find out your life sucks and you hate your job.

By the way, you made a great choice coming to Airnet. You'll love your job! See you in Columbus!

[nocturnalaviator]

For you, it's I can't wait to be Prop PIC at Airnet. For me, it's I can't wait to be Jet SIC. By the way, you made a great choice coming to Airnet. You'll love your job! See you in Columbus![/quote]

Thank you very much! I think I made the right choice as well. Your absolutely right. I think that the ones i've flown with were too busy thinking of getting to that next level that they forgot why they got into the career field, its like i've always been told by the DPE I do business with, also my mentor he'd say, "Slow the hell down, think about what your doing, just slow down." Here's a couple questions, How many are in each pilot class? And how long do you have to go till jet SIC?

[FlySmiley]

Originally Posted by nocturnalaviator

For you, it's I can't wait to be Prop PIC at Airnet. For me, it's I can't wait to be Jet SIC. By the way, you made a great choice coming to Airnet. You'll love your job! See you in Columbus!

Thank you very much! I think I made the right choice as well. Your absolutely right. I think that the ones i've flown with were too busy thinking of getting to that next level that they forgot why they got into the career field, its like i've always been told by the DPE I do business with, also my mentor he'd say, "Slow the hell down, think about what your doing, just slow down." Here's a couple questions, How many are in each pilot class? And how long do you have to go till jet SIC? [/quote]

Only time will tell how many would be in your hiring class. "Normal" class size when I was going through training was 4 people.

On the positive side of going to Airnet at such low hours is that your seniority number will thank you when it comes to lear upgrade. You'll need 2000TT give or take to upgrade. There are no guarantees of course, but once you hit the 2000hr benchmark (At your hours, and assuming 1200hrs per year you'll upgrade in 1.5 years) you should be able to hold able to hold a lear SIC spot.

Congrats on the gig, it will be fun flying and you'll meet some cool folks.

[nocturnalaviator]

Thanks for the input, yeah I'm really looking forward to it!!!

[crosby87]

Well, this thread has definitely made me rethink my decision to apply with Airnet. I only have 450TT and being a SIC for 9 months doesn't seem so attractive. I should probably call off the interview I was offered, or maybe just go for the experience.

Oh well, 150 more hours and I'll head off to XJet or Republic.

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by crosby87

Well, this thread has definitely made me rethink my decision to apply with Airnet. I only have 450TT and being a SIC for 9 months doesn't seem so attractive. I should probably call off the interview I was offered, or maybe just go for the experience.

Oh well, 150 more hours and I'll head off to XJet or Republic.

What did you think you would do there? Or is it whoever calls first thing?

[crosby87]

No, I'd be at PSA or Piedmont already if that were the case.... I wasn't exactly sure what I'd be doing as a SIC, but you know, since it's something I haven't done before, that's to be expected.

If I were closer to the 135 mins I would love to fly for Airnet, but it's not worth the 9 months of bordem, I'd rather CFI(which I do enjoy, but it doesn't pay the bills) than be a worthless crew member.

[minitour]

Originally Posted by crosby87

No, I'd be at PSA or Piedmont already if that were the case.... I wasn't exactly sure what I'd be doing as a SIC, but you know, since it's something I haven't done before, that's to be expected.

If I were closer to the 135 mins I would love to fly for Airnet, but it's not worth the 9 months of bordem, I'd rather CFI(which I do enjoy, but it doesn't pay the bills) than be a worthless crew member.

If you seriously look at yourself as a "worthless crew member", then you aren't ready for a crew environment. ...IMHO.

-mini

[crosby87]

I love how everything is taken out of context on message boards. This is why I never partake in discussions.

I didn't think I would be a worthless crewmember until I read this thread. That is not something I want to be, I would much rather be in a position where I was actually needed.

[OldTownPilot]

Hypothetical situation:

Say "you", meaning any pilot, wanted to go to airnet as a SIC. "You" plan (for now) staying for a lear spot and sticking around for a bit until a 'career job' comes up. What would you (airnet pilots now) say would be a good balance of a bit of seniority vs a crapload of 'SICing'? Say the pilot in question was a CFI, with a 'ok' job.

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

Hypothetical situation:

Say "you", meaning any pilot, wanted to go to airnet as a SIC. "You" plan (for now) staying for a lear spot and sticking around for a bit until a 'career job' comes up. What would you (airnet pilots now) say would be a good balance of a bit of seniority vs a crapload of 'SICing'? Say the pilot in question was a CFI, with a 'ok' job.

If money is no factor, both pay the same, and you really don't care what lear base you goto. Stay a CFI.
If you are waiting for a specific lear base you may wanna get that senority so that you can be ready to hold that base the second you get 2,000tt. But be aware there are some bases that have been locked up for years.
I'm pretty sure that didn't answer your question.