Ameriflight....required multi to apply?

cfii2007 · October 24th, 2007, 19:25

Just wondering how much multi are people getting hired on with?

EatSleepFly · October 24th, 2007, 20:46

Do you have any?

If yes, then you meet the competitive minimums for a Chieftain position, so go ahead and apply.

cfii2007 · October 24th, 2007, 22:13

Uh.....I was looking for a range of hours.

EatSleepFly · October 24th, 2007, 22:47

And... UH... I'm telling you, if you have any multi along with the rest of the 135 mins, you're probably competitive. They hire below the published multi mins all the time, so I can't give you a magical range that would mean anything. Just apply online, call them up, and see what happens.

OldTownPilot · October 24th, 2007, 22:49

I 'think' he means competitive is all that it takes so that the text on your license says "commercial pilot Multi-engine land"

if you did your add-on in 5 hours then 1200/5 would be competitive.

Edit: He beat me to it.

KLB · October 24th, 2007, 23:06

If you have 135 mins, a multi rating, and your resume in....you should get a call. If not PM me your name and I'll see what I can do.

cfii2007 · October 25th, 2007, 12:56

I should have 135 mins by February....with maybe 25-50 multi. If you have less than 1200 or are short on night time for example, I assume you can sit right seat until reaching 135 IFR?

DE727UPS · October 25th, 2007, 13:01

Amflight is a single pilot operation. No need for right seaters.

taseal · October 25th, 2007, 17:32

so def need the 1200 eh...

aviatorrbt · October 25th, 2007, 18:06

Not sure the specs, but a CFI friend of mine got a job with Colgan Air flying a Saab. 900hrs, 55 multi. Most likely flying right seat though.

cfii2007 · October 25th, 2007, 18:54

Colgan is Part 121....they don't really care about your flight time.

Part 135 IFR single pilot is a bit different.

KLB · October 26th, 2007, 06:26

If you are within twenty hours of the minimums, apply. You'll do about twenty hours in training anyway. I was a few hours short of the night requirement and I got it during training.

Polymox · October 26th, 2007, 17:19

I was hired last month with 25 hours of multi time. It's really exactly as EatSleepFly and KLB said. If you have a commercial multi and 135.243c requirements you'll probably get a call.

woog315 · October 27th, 2007, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

Amflight is a single pilot operation. No need for right seaters.

They do have Emb120s they hire into the right seat at around 500 hours. Also, they hire training instructors around 500 hours, and you can instruct there until you hit 135 mins. Then, of course there is the pft right seat program that no one ever talks about :P

What about the system TDY situation at Amflight, is it competitive or is it something most people dont want? I'm interested in amflight and I'll be at 1500 hours in a few months (about 600 multi) and was wondering if it would be possible to go straight into a TDY position.

Cessnaflyer · October 27th, 2007, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polymox

I was hired last month with 25 hours of multi time. It's really exactly as EatSleepFly and KLB said. If you have a commercial multi and 135.243c requirements you'll probably get a call.

Are you based at BFI?

jtrain609 · October 27th, 2007, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

Amflight is a single pilot operation. No need for right seaters.

Well...not exactly...there are some provisions in place depending on the situation...

KLB · October 27th, 2007, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by woog315

What about the system TDY situation at Amflight, is it competitive or is it something most people dont want? I'm interested in amflight and I'll be at 1500 hours in a few months (about 600 multi) and was wondering if it would be possible to go straight into a TDY position.

It's on a need basis. It usually goes senior though. The best way to get it is to go in Burbank or Ontario based and do regular TDY for a while. These are the only bases that usually send people out TDY. You'll make more money doing regular TDY anyway.

Polymox · October 29th, 2007, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer

Are you based at BFI?

Yeah, I am.

Cessnaflyer · October 30th, 2007, 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polymox

Yeah, I am.

Is that a hard base to get in to?

I'm currently instructing at MWH and I think by the time I leave here with my 4 year I will probably well with in 135 minimums. This is one of the places I am looking at to stay close to home.

JayAre · October 30th, 2007, 12:37

1200TT/Multi comm. and pulse

TDY is generally the metro

Polymox · October 30th, 2007, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer

Is that a hard base to get in to?

Everyone has told me that historically it's one of the hardest. With the regionals taking all the pilots before they get to 1200 hours things have changed a little. I can't say what it'll be like here when you want to apply, but I'm sure the company will be hiring somewhere.

EatSleepFly · October 30th, 2007, 19:56

You can get into any Chieftain base you want these days, I can almost guarantee it. If they try to give you some song and dance about not needing pilots at XXX, just shrug and say, "oh well, I'll take that job with Skywest then" and watch them trip over themselves to offer you what you wanted. It's a pilot's market, take advantage of it- they do the same when the tables are turned, believe me.

woog315 · October 30th, 2007, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by EatSleepFly

You can get into any Chieftain base you want these days, I can almost guarantee it. If they try to give you some song and dance about not needing pilots at XXX, just shrug and say, "oh well, I'll take that job with Skywest then" and watch them trip over themselves to offer you what you wanted. It's a pilot's market, take advantage of it- they do the same when the tables are turned, believe me.

This is so true for the current state of the industry. I'm just a flight instructor, but I've moved to several different schools. Many of the owners are still in the mindset that they are doing you a huge favor by giving you a job and you should make sacrifices and compromises for it... that's just not true right now- THEY need YOU, not the other way around as you can find a job anywhere right now. I'm not saying be a jerk or make unreasonable demands, but pilot pay and working conditions are still in the crapper from 9/11 and now is the time to bring them back up. It's already happening big time at the CFI level (I'm making 3x what a first year regional FO makes) and I hope the Regionals and 135 feeders (all those "second level" jobs) are next.

Cessnaflyer · October 30th, 2007, 23:20

I love flying here in the northwest and wouldn't want to really move away from here.

KLB · October 31st, 2007, 08:21

If you applied for BFI, you'd most likely get it. You could get PDX easily because they are short on pilots. Like ESF said, everyone's short everywhere. They'll give you what you want.

October 24th, 2007, 19:25	#1
cfii2007 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,975	Ameriflight....required multi to apply? Just wondering how much multi are people getting hired on with?

October 24th, 2007, 20:46	#2
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? Do you have any? If yes, then you meet the competitive minimums for a Chieftain position, so go ahead and apply.

October 24th, 2007, 22:13	#3
cfii2007 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,975	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? Uh.....I was looking for a range of hours.

October 24th, 2007, 22:47	#4
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? And... UH... I'm telling you, if you have any multi along with the rest of the 135 mins, you're probably competitive. They hire below the published multi mins all the time, so I can't give you a magical range that would mean anything. Just apply online, call them up, and see what happens.

October 24th, 2007, 22:49	#5
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 3,158 Blog Entries: 9	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? I 'think' he means competitive is all that it takes so that the text on your license says "commercial pilot Multi-engine land" if you did your add-on in 5 hours then 1200/5 would be competitive. Edit: He beat me to it. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

October 24th, 2007, 23:06	#6
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 3,000	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? If you have 135 mins, a multi rating, and your resume in....you should get a call. If not PM me your name and I'll see what I can do.

October 25th, 2007, 12:56	#7
cfii2007 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,975	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? I should have 135 mins by February....with maybe 25-50 multi. If you have less than 1200 or are short on night time for example, I assume you can sit right seat until reaching 135 IFR?

October 25th, 2007, 13:01	#8
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,577	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? Amflight is a single pilot operation. No need for right seaters. __________________ Click here to see how I became a UPS pilot http://www.jetcareers.com/content/view/65/132/

October 25th, 2007, 17:32	#9
taseal Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 1,961	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? so def need the 1200 eh... __________________

October 25th, 2007, 18:06	#10
aviatorrbt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: FL Posts: 432	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? Not sure the specs, but a CFI friend of mine got a job with Colgan Air flying a Saab. 900hrs, 55 multi. Most likely flying right seat though.

October 25th, 2007, 18:54	#11
cfii2007 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,975	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? Colgan is Part 121....they don't really care about your flight time. Part 135 IFR single pilot is a bit different.

October 26th, 2007, 06:26	#12
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 3,000	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? If you are within twenty hours of the minimums, apply. You'll do about twenty hours in training anyway. I was a few hours short of the night requirement and I got it during training.

October 26th, 2007, 17:19	#13
Polymox Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: WA Posts: 31	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? I was hired last month with 25 hours of multi time. It's really exactly as EatSleepFly and KLB said. If you have a commercial multi and 135.243c requirements you'll probably get a call.

October 30th, 2007, 12:37	#20
JayAre Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Multiple Posts: 1,042	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? 1200TT/Multi comm. and pulse TDY is generally the metro

October 30th, 2007, 19:56	#22
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? You can get into any Chieftain base you want these days, I can almost guarantee it. If they try to give you some song and dance about not needing pilots at XXX, just shrug and say, "oh well, I'll take that job with Skywest then" and watch them trip over themselves to offer you what you wanted. It's a pilot's market, take advantage of it- they do the same when the tables are turned, believe me.

October 30th, 2007, 23:20	#24
Cessnaflyer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 1,447	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? I love flying here in the northwest and wouldn't want to really move away from here. __________________ Chris, CFI, CFII Now I could let these dream killers kill my self-esteem or use it as the steam to power my dreams That's how you treat things, stay hungry.

October 31st, 2007, 08:21	#25
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 3,000	Re: Ameriflight....required multi to apply? If you applied for BFI, you'd most likely get it. You could get PDX easily because they are short on pilots. Like ESF said, everyone's short everywhere. They'll give you what you want.

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