Airnet hiring into choice base..

FlySmiley · July 19th, 2007, 17:32

This is a new policy and part of their pilot recruitment scheme. As far as the hiring into base thing works, I guess they will hire you into the base of your choice and let you float (I'm assuming an 8/6 schedule). You are base locked for 12mo. (not a big deal since it is your choice base anyway), and you give up the benefit of having your moving expenses paid for your intial assignment (again, this shouldn't be a big deal since you are probably not moving anywhere). You are also required to bid for that base every time a spot comes open and it will follow the normal bidding process where the highest seniority number to bid the base gets the award. I'm not sure how the current employees that don't get a choice are going to feel about this one though...

Ian J · July 19th, 2007, 17:49

Very interesting! I'll be sure to ask about this on Monday when I start!

murphfly · July 19th, 2007, 19:20

Ian

We'll have to go grab a beer then. I'll be in LCK around 8/5 for a 'van checkride. Good luck on Mon! Just get your head in the books and score well on the quizzes. Lata

Murph

mtsu_av8er · July 19th, 2007, 19:35

I predicted this a couple of months ago!

Very good news!

butt · July 20th, 2007, 01:09

Is this any Airnet base, or do only certain bases apply?

mtsu_av8er · July 20th, 2007, 01:26

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Originally Posted by butt

Is this any Airnet base, or do only certain bases apply?

I'm sure that it only applies to bases that have openings.

Ian J · July 20th, 2007, 02:45

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Originally Posted by murphfly

Ian

We'll have to go grab a beer then. I'll be in LCK around 8/5 for a 'van checkride. Good luck on Mon! Just get your head in the books and score well on the quizzes. Lata

Murph

Sounds good, man!

mnixon · July 20th, 2007, 06:57

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Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

I'm sure that it only applies to bases that have openings.

It applies to all bases where a prop is based.

mtsu_av8er · July 20th, 2007, 09:30

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Originally Posted by mnixon

It applies to all bases where a prop is based.

So, will they hire you into your base of choice if there's no open run?

Stone Cold · July 20th, 2007, 09:34

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Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

So, will they hire you into your base of choice if there's no open run?

Sure sounds like it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlySmiley

You are also required to bid for that base every time a spot comes open and it will follow the normal bidding process where the highest seniority number to bid the base gets the award.

Ian J · July 20th, 2007, 11:40

Two questions:

1) With this new policy, how are they going to fill unpopular bases?

2) I'm thinking about asking for LCK as my base - I've only heard good things about Columbus... any cons about being based there I should know about?

mikecweb · July 20th, 2007, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Ian J

Two questions:

1) With this new policy, how are they going to fill unpopular bases?

2) I'm thinking about asking for LCK as my base - I've only heard good things about Columbus... any cons about being based there I should know about?

Ian you don't need to consider doing this if you want LCK. There are about 5 reserve spots open in Columbus right now. PM me and I can give you some more specific details.
A couple of things guys. You WILL be reserve in this base of your choice until a run opens and you still need to bid a run based on senority. Also you WILL be locked for 12 months in this base.
Those rules only apply if you do this hire into base deal.

mnixon · July 26th, 2007, 08:02

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Originally Posted by mikecweb

Ian you don't need to consider doing this if you want LCK. There are about 5 reserve spots open in Columbus right now. PM me and I can give you some more specific details.
A couple of things guys. You WILL be reserve in this base of your choice until a run opens and you still need to bid a run based on senority. Also you WILL be locked for 12 months in this base.
Those rules only apply if you do this hire into base deal.

Just because your a jet jockey now doesn't mean you get to have a new avatar. You still stink of Baron. Did you pass anyway?

mikecweb · July 26th, 2007, 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnixon

Just because your a jet jockey now doesn't mean you get to have a new avatar. You still stink of Baron. Did you pass anyway?

Two more days of sims and then I'll be in Columbus for two weeks.
REALLY looking forward to that.

bmfc · July 26th, 2007, 13:37

What is it like for a pilot on reserve for this company? Do you just wait around in case somebody doesn't show up?

88MPH · July 26th, 2007, 20:59

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Originally Posted by bmfc

What is it like for a pilot on reserve for this company? Do you just wait around in case somebody doesn't show up?

... and the pay?

Stone Cold · July 26th, 2007, 21:14

I made $27,500 approximately my first year at Airnet as a floater (reserve). You can look through some of my old posts to see some of the stuff I did, but basically if a pilot is on vacation, sick, or there isn't a pilot on a run, then you fly the run until somebody gets there. It can be good and it can be bad. I had weeks where I did very little flying, and I had months where I flew 75 hours (high time for a reserve pilot at Airnet). The schedule was the best part of it, since I commuted back and forth. We were on an 8/6 so it worked out good for me.

The flying did not necessarily have to be a run either...many times I was told, upon walking in to dispatch, Joe take a Van, Baron, whatever, and go to TEB, or where ever, now! Always interesting. Kind of like what I'm doing now, except now I have pax and only one airplane!!!

Talk to some of the current pilots to find out some of the stuff that is changing and why there are no reserve pilots in LCK...it used to be a desired spot.

Flysher · July 27th, 2007, 12:47

Being a reserve pilot right now at Airnet means you are going to fly/travel ALOT. We are extremely short pilots right now and from what I have heard and seen the floaters are working non stop. A friend of mine who was just awarded a spot was told that he could work as much overtime as he wanted (legally of course).

It also means knowing 3 different airplanes and possibly flying them all in the same night. It means never knowing where you are going, (at first anyway), staying in hotels, and switching your body clock around alot. Honestly though I wouldn't give up my floater experience for anything, I learned ALOT, saw alot, and flew over most of the country east of the mississippi.

The pay wasn't bad, but I hardly spent per diem so that allowed me to take home a bit more. If you factor out per diem as pay you are probably looking at base pay as a floater, unless of course you work over time, then the skys the limit.

Cerelis · July 31st, 2007, 08:48

I just read off the website that a Familiarization flight can be arranged.

Quote:

Q: Can I ride along on a run to experience the type of flying AirNet does?
YES – If you are a rated pilot, call our recruitment hotline @ 1-877-247-6386 and ask if we can accommodate you on a FAM (familiarization) flight.

What's the deal with that? Would I have to be multi-rated? Do any of you guys do those types of flights?

Cerelis

Stone Cold · July 31st, 2007, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerelis

I just read off the website that a Familiarization flight can be arranged.

What's the deal with that? Would I have to be multi-rated? Do any of you guys do those types of flights?

Cerelis

Myself, personally, am glad that I'm no longer there for those flights. My wife couldn't use the system to go anywhere, but they are giving flights to people who are prospective employees...not good for morale.

Call the number listed and they'll give you all the details you need.

Flysher,

My numbers are without per diem, and I floated for 1 year. YMMV, depending on what's going on. From the sound of it, they are working the floaters to death, or something, since they are now hurting for pilots, and have very few floaters.

Cerelis · July 31st, 2007, 10:02

Quote:

Myself, personally, am glad that I'm no longer there for those flights. My wife couldn't use the system to go anywhere, but they are giving flights to people who are prospective employees...not good for morale.

Call the number listed and they'll give you all the details you need.

Maybe i shouldn't do it then... I wouldn't wanna anger anyone...or generate bad feelings...

Cerelis

mikecweb · July 31st, 2007, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerelis

Maybe i shouldn't do it then... I wouldn't wanna anger anyone...or generate bad feelings...

Cerelis

Stone Cold's sentiments about the ride alongs are spot on. 99% of our crews are awesome though and wouldn't give you a hard time about riding. This is a issue that needs to be discussed with management not the general public so you should catch heat about riding. PM me for any more info.

mnixon · August 1st, 2007, 08:45

I can tell you only what I believe and that is this, as the PIC if I feel your a threat to the flight, you ain't going, therefore you better be approved in the Cass System or work for a 135/121 operator. Just because you have a pilot certificate doesn't tell me anything about you. The company wants us to trust the feds who gave you a cert vs. my family. Nothing personal, but until my family rides, you don't. (This wasn't directed at anyone by the way, just a general statement.)

mikecweb · August 1st, 2007, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnixon

I can tell you only what I believe and that is this, as the PIC if I feel your a threat to the flight, you ain't going, therefore you better be approved in the Cass System or work for a 135/121 operator. Just because you have a pilot certificate doesn't tell me anything about you. The company wants us to trust the feds who gave you a cert vs. my family. Nothing personal, but until my family rides, you don't. (This wasn't directed at anyone by the way, just a general statement.)

You're also a High Life man. lol

butt · August 1st, 2007, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnixon

I can tell you only what I believe and that is this, as the PIC if I feel your a threat to the flight, you ain't going,

how exactly is a prospective employee a threat? Because you don;t know anything about that person? Do you reject flying with a new SIC's because you don't know them?

[/quote]Nothing personal, but until my family rides, you don't. (This wasn't directed at anyone by the way, just a general statement.)[/quote]

If you don't want prospective employees flying with you for political reasons, then just come out and say it. Don't play these games where you say the person is a "threat to saftey", because honestly, to me thats abusing your powers of PIC.

It's not like Airnet is offering prospective employees a free airline ride or anything like that. The point of the flight is to show people interested in working for them how things are ran. The benefit is more prepared applicants, and maybe even more applicants.

If your wife flies with you, what is the benefit? If anything that would be less safe than a prospective employee, because the wife could be a distraction.

July 19th, 2007, 17:32	#1
FlySmiley Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 173	Airnet hiring into choice base.. This is a new policy and part of their pilot recruitment scheme. As far as the hiring into base thing works, I guess they will hire you into the base of your choice and let you float (I'm assuming an 8/6 schedule). You are base locked for 12mo. (not a big deal since it is your choice base anyway), and you give up the benefit of having your moving expenses paid for your intial assignment (again, this shouldn't be a big deal since you are probably not moving anywhere). You are also required to bid for that base every time a spot comes open and it will follow the normal bidding process where the highest seniority number to bid the base gets the award. I'm not sure how the current employees that don't get a choice are going to feel about this one though...

July 19th, 2007, 17:49	#2
Ian J Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manchester, CT Posts: 5,738 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. Very interesting! I'll be sure to ask about this on Monday when I start! __________________

July 19th, 2007, 19:20	#3
murphfly Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 104	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. Ian We'll have to go grab a beer then. I'll be in LCK around 8/5 for a 'van checkride. Good luck on Mon! Just get your head in the books and score well on the quizzes. Lata Murph

July 19th, 2007, 19:35	#4
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,468	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. I predicted this a couple of months ago! Very good news! __________________ ------- "Sadness bears no remedy for the problems in your life."

July 20th, 2007, 01:09	#5
butt Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KAMA Posts: 329	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. Is this any Airnet base, or do only certain bases apply?

July 20th, 2007, 11:40	#11
Ian J Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manchester, CT Posts: 5,738 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. Two questions: 1) With this new policy, how are they going to fill unpopular bases? 2) I'm thinking about asking for LCK as my base - I've only heard good things about Columbus... any cons about being based there I should know about? __________________

July 26th, 2007, 13:37	#15
bmfc Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 7	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. What is it like for a pilot on reserve for this company? Do you just wait around in case somebody doesn't show up?

July 26th, 2007, 21:14	#17
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,958	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. I made $27,500 approximately my first year at Airnet as a floater (reserve). You can look through some of my old posts to see some of the stuff I did, but basically if a pilot is on vacation, sick, or there isn't a pilot on a run, then you fly the run until somebody gets there. It can be good and it can be bad. I had weeks where I did very little flying, and I had months where I flew 75 hours (high time for a reserve pilot at Airnet). The schedule was the best part of it, since I commuted back and forth. We were on an 8/6 so it worked out good for me. The flying did not necessarily have to be a run either...many times I was told, upon walking in to dispatch, Joe take a Van, Baron, whatever, and go to TEB, or where ever, now! Always interesting. Kind of like what I'm doing now, except now I have pax and only one airplane!!! Talk to some of the current pilots to find out some of the stuff that is changing and why there are no reserve pilots in LCK...it used to be a desired spot.

July 27th, 2007, 12:47	#18
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 444	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. Being a reserve pilot right now at Airnet means you are going to fly/travel ALOT. We are extremely short pilots right now and from what I have heard and seen the floaters are working non stop. A friend of mine who was just awarded a spot was told that he could work as much overtime as he wanted (legally of course). It also means knowing 3 different airplanes and possibly flying them all in the same night. It means never knowing where you are going, (at first anyway), staying in hotels, and switching your body clock around alot. Honestly though I wouldn't give up my floater experience for anything, I learned ALOT, saw alot, and flew over most of the country east of the mississippi. The pay wasn't bad, but I hardly spent per diem so that allowed me to take home a bit more. If you factor out per diem as pay you are probably looking at base pay as a floater, unless of course you work over time, then the skys the limit.

August 1st, 2007, 08:45	#23
mnixon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 531	Re: Airnet hiring into choice base.. I can tell you only what I believe and that is this, as the PIC if I feel your a threat to the flight, you ain't going, therefore you better be approved in the Cass System or work for a 135/121 operator. Just because you have a pilot certificate doesn't tell me anything about you. The company wants us to trust the feds who gave you a cert vs. my family. Nothing personal, but until my family rides, you don't. (This wasn't directed at anyone by the way, just a general statement.) __________________ Former Presidents Photography

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