Quick AirNet Question

[Ian J]

At what point during training do you find out where you'll be based?

Thanks!

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Ian J

At what point during training do you find out where you'll be based?

Thanks!

After you are PIC qualified you will start bidding for a run. The night you win that bid you find out where.

[Ian J]

Thanks Mike - so it would behoove me to show up with 1200 hours I gather...

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Ian J

Thanks Mike - so it would behoove me to show up with 1200 hours I gather...

Yeah if you want to get a run quick.
I see alot of benefits from SICing for a few weeks. Two IOE flights doesn't fully transitition you from person to freight dawg.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

Yeah if you want to get a run quick.
I see alot of benefits from SICing for a few weeks. Two IOE flights doesn't fully transitition you from person to freight dawg.

Yeah, I agree. Realities being what they are, I'll probably show up with about 1150-ish... SICing would certainly help me learn the ropes I'm sure.

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Ian J

Yeah, I agree. Realities being what they are, I'll probably show up with about 1150-ish... SICing would certainly help me learn the ropes I'm sure.

1150 is probably ideal.
If St. Louis is open for SICs when you get out I'll show you the ropes.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

1150 is probably ideal.
If St. Louis is open for SICs when you get out I'll show you the ropes.

Wait a minute... I guess I didn't realize something. They send you somewhere else to SIC, then once you are a PIC, you bid to go yet another place? That's a lot of moving around!

And if I do get to St. Louis... I'd definitely look forward to it!

[mikecweb]

Yeah they send you to a high time Baron run to build your time. You'll get some options most likely but your on your own about finding a place. Alot of guys choose a city near some friends or family or just crashpad it.

[dbrault17]

Hey Mikecweb, youre in St. Louis, CPS? Im heading there once for flight express once I get IFR mins, about two more weeks. Theyre letting me stay in the hanger. Ill PM you once Im out there!

[mikecweb]

Sweet. Yeah let me know.

[Tuckster]

I'm not at the required hours to apply but if I do, I want to SIC for awhile. The question I'm looking to get answered is will my age (57) be an issue ??? I know not to consider the regionals because of my age but 135, I can work till I'm 65. I'm building my TT & ME time out of my pension so I hope I'm not investing into a dead end. I have the question out to a recruiter hoping for an honest answer.
Any comments/thoughts/suggestions/warnings ??

[mikecweb]

Your age definetly won't be an issue. If you stayed at airnet until you were 65 you would be one of the most senior pilots here.
Your only problems would be young 23 year olds like me calling you grandpa. But thats only if you call me son or put on Happy Days in the crew room.

[Tuckster]

Hey ... I hear grandpa already .... I really am one so you can't hurt my feelings.

TT won't be an issue but ME time will be expensive. Fly Aviator in FL has a 100 hour block in a Beach Baron for $9500.00. That sounds tough to beat. I already have my IFR.

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Tuckster

Hey ... I hear grandpa already .... I really am one so you can't hurt my feelings.

TT won't be an issue but ME time will be expensive. Fly Aviator in FL has a 100 hour block in a Beach Baron for $9500.00. That sounds tough to beat. I already have my IFR.

Airnet has no multi time requirment. Just the rating.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by mikecweb

Airnet has no multi time requirment. Just the rating.

What he said. I have a wet multi comm and MEI with a whopping 33 ME time and they hired me.

[Tuckster]

I'm getting more info from you than the recruiter. Thanks ..... If I'm OK with SIC for 6 months, how much time would you suggest before I actually apply ???

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by Tuckster

I'm getting more info from you than the recruiter. Thanks ..... If I'm OK with SIC for 6 months, how much time would you suggest before I actually apply ???

At my interview last month Craig said to me: "Tell all your buddies to apply at 500 hours."

If hired, they'll put you in a hiring pool and will bring you to class when you have about 1050 TT.

[mikecweb]

Anywhere between 500-800hours.
Just had a buddy brought into interview and he had a shade under 7.
We need pilots. The training program is still tough. And this is a good thing. We just had a class where 3/4 failed. All were in the 800-900hour tt range. Come here with SOLID IFR skills and you'll be fine. Don't come here with the attitude that this is just flying a baron because the program will wash you out right away.

[Tuckster]

I will be sure to sharpen up my IFR skills but I'm a better IFR pilot than VFR. I got into some bad VFR habits because I flew so much IFR. Where do most of the SIC new hires get sent?? And does Airnet have any jumpseat arrangements with many major carriers ??

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Tuckster

I will be sure to sharpen up my IFR skills but I'm a better IFR pilot than VFR. I got into some bad VFR habits because I flew so much IFR. Where do most of the SIC new hires get sent?? And does Airnet have any jumpseat arrangements with many major carriers ??

SICs get sent to high time Baron runs usually. If you perfer to goto a lower time baron run that is close to home they may allow it but don't pin your hopes on it. We have jumpseat agreements with around 30 airlines. And we are CASS approved.

[Tuckster]

Thanks again ... I just heard from the recruiter ( I had left a message). She confirmed age would not be an issue. She also gave me 1000 TT & 500 pic as minimums. I'm assuming that is what is considered competitive. I'm not clear on the 'hiring pool' verses training.

(What is CASS approved)???

[mikecweb]

Originally Posted by Tuckster

Thanks again ... I just heard from the recruiter ( I had left a message). She confirmed age would not be an issue. She also gave me 1000 TT & 500 pic as minimums. I'm assuming that is what is considered competitive. I'm not clear on the 'hiring pool' verses training.

(What is CASS approved)???

Who was the recruiter?
Hiring pool is a no mans land. You are hired but haven't gotten a class date yet. Usually they will hire people and as soon as they have enough demand for new pilots and room for a new class you'll get a class date.
CASS is a program that allows you to sit in the cockpit while jumpseating.

[n57flyguy]

To not start another topic, I had my own quick q about anet. How long till someone sees captain on the Lears? Obviously the wait to fly SIC is about 1.5 years (now). Just curious, thanks.

[Berkut]

Can someone PM me AirNet's human resources email? I faxed them an app (non-flying position) and want to make sure it was received. I'm not so sure about this fax machine.

[Stone Cold]

Originally Posted by n57flyguy

To not start another topic, I had my own quick q about anet. How long till someone sees captain on the Lears? Obviously the wait to fly SIC is about 1.5 years (now). Just curious, thanks.

A buddy of mine (he kept outbidding me for runs) is now a Lear Captain in ATL. He has been there for under 2 1/2 years. As I got up in seniority, the time for upgrade kept increasing (up to Lear SIC, anyways). Lately, it seems the flood gates opened a litte with some stuff going on there, from what I'm hearing, and some SICs are upgrading in less than a year in the jet. Now, if you want a specific base, it'll be longer, and some people aren't happy with some of the changes going on, so it's all up in the air on what will happen in the future.

Originally Posted by Berkut

Can someone PM me AirNet's human resources email? I faxed them an app (non-flying position) and want to make sure it was received. I'm not so sure about this fax machine.

Do not send in faxes. Go to Welcome To AirNet Systems, Inc. and go to "work with us". Go to the on-line application and put in the app that way. Then give Craig W a call (or the recruiters) and see how you're looking after about a week if you haven't heard from them.

Good luck!!