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March 2nd, 2007, 12:42
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006
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|  That didnt go as planned Well, I went off to Airnet training last month as some of you might recall and it didnt go as I had hoped. The week they had us in class wasent too bad and I learned a ton of new stuff. Then came the sim. All the procedures they have you memorize before class seemed to go out the window for the first flight in the sim. After a couple hours of sitting in the thing the muscle memory kicks in and it gets alot easier except the whole pitch sensitivity thing. At first I thought it was quite dumb to have to chase the altitude the way we did (first time in an FTD was at the interview and that was it) but then I realized how fast my scan became. Then came the actual baron flying. The night we took off it was like -7F and that thing was like riding a rocket. The nose felt like it was straight up and my instructor kept telling me to pitch more for Vy-it was awsome! We did a hold and four approaches all within about twenty miles at 150 indicated so things went by REALLY fast. That night with all the Jetblue delays due to a cold front bringing in an ice storm-yeah we were flying in that, training. I never seen anything like it. The runways, the taxiways, the windsheild, everything was all iced over. I had a 20 knot crosswind as we broke out at about 400 feet. I had to lean over into my instructor to see through the hot plate and didnt put enough crosswind correction in. When we landing we had a fun slide. They gave me one extra flight where I finally felt as though I was getting the hang of it. I finally found the power settings that gave me all the airspeeds I needed, The procedures were starting to become second nature, I was getting comfortable with being dumped right in front of the FAF for the approaches and even had some nice crosswind landings. However, I just wasent smooth or comfortable enough be able to pass a 135 checkride. I think if I were to go back and did four more flights with them I wouldnt have a problem but of course we all have budgets. At about midnight they gave an airline ticket to where ever I needed and sent me on my way. I had worked as flight instructor last year and alot of my time was built teaching stalls and landings in a 152 and an Archer. I didnt have a CFII nor did we have a mulit engine airplane to instruct out of. In fact my 21.8 hous of multi was completed two years ago and before I came down for training I hadnt flown in three months. So I guess I was really behind the ball for such a training enviroment. Now time to vent a little-My interview with Airnet was back In September. They told me I would probably be in the class after next (about three to four weeks after I got the call). So I gave my boss a heads up and we planned on phasing me out. He hired another instructor and my lease ended in my apartment. By the end of October (now 6 weeks after the interveiw) I was told to expect a class date for the middle of November but it wasent confirmed. Out of money, no more apartment, and my replacement already in town I had to leave NC. I went to see a buddy in New Mexico where he had a little work for me fixing up a house. After thanksgiving I was told FOR SURE I would get a class date before the new year. Then I got an email saying they were all caught up on hiring and there would be no new classes until next year. I went home to Detroit to stay with my parents until I got a class date. Finally I got a confirmed class date the first week of January for Jan 22. I never got another job because I thought I was going into training in just a few weeks so I went into training limping finacially. In training one of the guys who had 135 mins already was interveiw two weeks before class. I was never able to get 135 mins and all the money I had saved up to do alot of flying for the training was washed away for living expenses. I have no money and basically no job leads as of right now. I am a little pissed off at the situation, I just wished I would have gotten more information so I could plan a lot better then just given the ol' "proly next class". But I do understand Airnet needs PICs and I still think they would be an awsome place to work for. Im going to try to get more Multi engine and instrument time and if nothing else is going on, Im gonna give Craig a call  . |
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March 2nd, 2007, 15:14
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KBOS
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   | Re: That didnt go as planned That sucks man. It's definetly one of the steepest learning curves out there. Pick your head up though and reapply in 6.
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March 2nd, 2007, 16:13
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| Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ??
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| Re: That didnt go as planned Sorry to hear that man. Don't get down on yourself. Like was said above, it's a steep learning curve going from the right seat of a 172 to the left seat of a Baron doggie-style, single pilot, in all kinds of weather, especially with only 22 hours of multi, 2 years ago. If you're still wanting to be a freight dawg, you might want to check into a place like Flight Express. You'd start in the 210, and then move up to a Baron. They pay pretty darn good, and I hear they are a good company to work for. Just a thought. Good luck! |
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March 2nd, 2007, 16:57
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia
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| Re: That didnt go as planned That really sucks... did they say what the pass rate was? |
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March 2nd, 2007, 17:02
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| Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KBOS
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| Re: That didnt go as planned Historically I was told its around 50%. My class 3/4 made it.
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March 2nd, 2007, 20:42
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK
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| Re: That didnt go as planned Im sorry to hear that man. I kept trying to find you when I was in rick, but I never did. If you really want to work here try again in 6 months. I know plenty of people who didnt make it through the first time, came back after 6, and plowed right through training. |
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March 3rd, 2007, 06:06
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| Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Prescott
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| Re: That didnt go as planned Sounds like tough times man. Things will get better. These are times in life where nothing is going your way. Look at it this way, you are still standing on two feet and have the power to do anything you put your mind to. Maybe you just weren't ready this time, but next time you will have twice the experience. It's rough out there, just gotta do what ever it takes. |
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March 3rd, 2007, 11:42
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE
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| Re: That didnt go as planned Aw shoot man. I was really pullin' for ya! Anyway, you get street cred in my book for learning for fly a Baron the Freightdog way in that weather.
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March 4th, 2007, 00:23
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,073
| Re: That didnt go as planned Get something...anything for the next six months. Fly ALLOT! Get back in your groove and get current and proficient. Fly as much as you can on flightsim if you have to so your comfortable IFR. Heres some jobs to start your search. Remember tough times dont last, but tough people do. itle: Flight Instructor/Traffic Pilot Company: Illinois Aviation Academy, Inc. Product/Service: Location: West Chicago IL Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: IAA is presently looking for a full-time pilot to act as a flight instructor and traffic observation pilot. Must be willing to work weekends and odd hours. Requirements: Company Benefits: Wages start at $12/hr as a W2 employee (health insurance is available). Contact Information: Jeff Blackmon iaapilot@aol.com Phone: 630-513-2224 Fax: 630-513-8704 Illinois Aviation Academy, Inc. US Preferred Response Method: Illinois Aviation Academy, Inc. 32W751 Tower RD West Chicago, IL 60185 US http://www.illinoisaviation.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: TOUR AND CHARTER PILOT Company: Employers Name Withheld Product/Service: Location: NC Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: Requirements: Must have 500 hours, good bucks! Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A Phone: (252) 207-6402 Employers Name Withheld US Preferred Response Method: Free lodging. On the ocean in NC(252) 207-6402. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Cirrus SR22 pilot Company: Livingston Aviation Product/Service: Location: Waterloo, Iowa Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: full time Cirrus SR22 pilot: Commited to a Sr22, salaried position. Call for details. Requirements: Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A mark@livingstonaviation.com Phone: (319)234-1783 Fax: (319)234-7763 Livingston Aviation US Preferred Response Method: Livingston Aviation Contact: Mark Swancutt Waterloo, Iowa Phone: (319)234-1783 Fax: (319)234-7763 mark@livingstonaviation.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Aerial Survey Pilot Company: Great Lakes Aerial Survey, Inc. Product/Service: Location: WI Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: FULL-TIME, SEASONAL PILOT position available at growing aerial survey company. We are based in Wisconsin, with a satellite office in Dallas, TX, but our work takes us all over the U.S. Requirements: Interested candidates must be Multi-Engine Commercial rated. We would prefer 1500-hrs. TT and 250 Multi, PA-31 time a plus. Will consider applicants with 1000-hrs. TT and 75-hrs. Multi. Year round full-time employment would be considered by August. Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A glas@glasinc.com Fax: (920) 467-6738 Great Lakes Aerial Survey, Inc. US Preferred Response Method: Please FAX resumes to (920) 467-6738 or you may email resumes to glas@glasinc.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Title: Cessna 182 pilot Company: Employers Name Withheld Product/Service: Location: DC/Baltimore Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: Full time Cessna 182 pilot needed for busy tandem operation under 1 hour from DC/Baltimore. Great pay, plently of hours. Requirements: 700TT minimum. Company Benefits: Great pay, plently of hours. Contact Information: N/A Phone: (443) 735-9140 Employers Name Withheld US Preferred Response Method: Contact Lance (443) 735-9140 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Part 91 - C172 Aerial Imaging Pilot Company: Northern States Aviation Product/Service: Location: Various Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: Pilot for aerial image collection using precise GPS/inertial based flight director. Coordinate aircraft maintenance while away from home base. Handling and shipping of image collection media. Daily progress reporting. Seasonal positions available October through June. Travel is continuous during season. Typical flight time per season is 450 - 650 hours. Requirements: 500 hours total time, Commercial certificate, Instrument rating. 10 hours PIC actual IMC (minimum). No accidents or incidents. Drug & Alcohol testing program compliance required. Computer skills desirable Travel: Continuous Aircraft: C172 Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A hrx@northernstatesaviation.com Northern States Aviation US Preferred Response Method: Email resume to: hrx@northernstatesaviation.com Website: www.northernstatesaviation.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Title: Aerial Survey Pilot Company: Withheld Product/Service: Location: MD,DC,VA,WV Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: Full-time instrument rated CMEL, aerial survey pilot to fly Piper Aztecs and Navajos and a Cessna 206. Pilots can expect to fly up to 350+ hours a year, primarily VFR, up and down the East Coast. Requirements: 800 total 100 Multi (Lowe flight times may be accepted depending on recent experience) Company Benefits: Pilots are paid hourly for a min of 40-hour workweek (standby in the office) and are on-call weekends and holidays with time-and-a-half pay if called Contact Information: N/A Awinters@airphotographics.com Withheld US Preferred Response Method: Email Resume to Awinters@airphotographics.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Pipeline Patrol pilot Company: Employers Name Withheld Product/Service: Location: SOUTH TEXAS AND LOUISIANA Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: Requirements: 1,000 hours minimum, Commercial and Instrument rating. Experience preferred but not required. Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A Employers Name Withheld P.O. Box 458, Guthrie, OK 73044. US Preferred Response Method: Send resume to: P.O. Box 458, Guthrie, OK 73044 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Cirrus SR22 pilot Company: Employers Name Withheld Product/Service: Location: Akron OH Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: Pilot wanted for busy executive flying a Cirrus SR22. Instrument training is necessary. PT available. Requirements: Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A nashraymond@hotmail.com Fax: 330-867-0490 Employers Name Withheld US Preferred Response Method: Please fax or send resumes to: 330-867-0490 or P.O. Box 13078, Akron OH 44334. WED ID BJ2288236 Email: nashraymond@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: BANNER PILOTS NEEDED Company: Company Name Withheld Product/Service: Location: Delaware and Maryland Required Travel: None Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent Description: BANNER PILOTS NEEDED summer '07. Delaware and Maryland beaches. Great pay and free housing. Taildgragger time is a must! Requirements: Company Benefits: Contact Information: N/A Phone: (410) 641-2484 Fax: (410) 641-3252 Company Name Withheld US Preferred Response Method: Fax (410) 641-3252; phone, (410) 641-2484 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aero Photo 4000 16th St N St Petersburg, FL 33703 (727)520-8181 (727)525-6350 fax (727)542-8348 cell bob@aerophoto.com PILOT NEEDED FOR BUSY AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY COMPANY Cessna 172 Photo missions take place in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and west along the Florida Panhandle to New Orleans. Applicant must have 750 hours total time, and minimum 25 hours in Cessna 172’s. Time in Class “B” airspace is a must. Our flights occur at regularly scheduled intervals each month. Successful applicant will fly approximately 65 – 75 hours per month. Overnight stays on 1 – 2 missions, with all expenses paid. Actual flight hours are compensated at rate of $25.00 per hour. We are looking to increase the number of scheduled flights, which could lead to this becoming a full time position. Our airplanes are based at Albert Whitted Airport (SPG). Contact: Bob Gates or Patricia Gerino Aero Photo Ph: (888)542-0231 FAX: (727)526-3123 E-mail: bob@aerophoto.com or patriciag@aerophoto.com Web: www.aerophoto.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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March 4th, 2007, 01:35
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA
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| Re: That didnt go as planned Sorry to hear things didn't work out. Life, and the career, isn't always fair. I had many setbacks on my way to the left seat of a 767 at UPS. You need to perservere though it.
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March 4th, 2007, 10:31
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT
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 | Re: That didnt go as planned That gig doing traffic watch in Chicago? Yeah it pays like $9 an hour or something like that, I interviewed for that one.
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March 4th, 2007, 13:15
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jefferson City
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| Re: That didnt go as planned There is always Flight Express! They will give you chance after chance after chance, because they are desperate for pilots. I know you'll be stuck in a 210 for a while, but it's an excellent confidence/skill builder. I'm so glad I went there.
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March 5th, 2007, 11:02
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| Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: _
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| Re: That didnt go as planned To my knowledge flight express isn't hiring below 135 mins currently though, so that doesn't help this guy. I'll throw a few jobs in the ring as well. Baron Pilot, Reeves Development, LA Regional Development Company seeks pilot for Company Baron. Approximately 500 hours per year. Minimum Requirements 1000 Hours 200 Multi Salary Negotiable. Salary range 36000 To apply: Company Name Reeves Development Contact Name Charles Reeves Phone Number 337-433-0200 Fax Number 337-433-9040 Address 825 Ryan Street City Lake Charles State La Co-pilot, AireCorr, PDK LOW time (300 TT) co-pilot needed for part 91 flight department in Atlanta area Requirements: Comm. Multi Inst Send resume to: pilotneededatl@yahoo.com
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March 5th, 2007, 12:25
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW
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 | Re: That didnt go as planned Sorry to hear that. Hang in there and be persistant. It will pay off. |
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