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Old September 19th, 2006, 17:29   #1
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Default Minimum ME time for Airnet/RamAir/Ameriflight

I'm just curious as to what the absolute minimum Multi-engine time would be to get a job flying twins in a frieght gig.

I know there is no firm answer so the opinions of those working as a frieght dawg are probably as good as it will get. If i sound like an underachiever, its because each hour is going to cost me $130 (old ugly apache on autogas in east nowhere). I dont want to split time or goto ari-ben and drop $10,000, I got to where I'm at now, CFII 1100+hours and climbing very cheaply and considering how much I'm gonna make in the future i'd like to keep it that way. Oh and instructing in a twin is not an option, I'm not getting a new job just for that or worse just riding along with people and logging it as instruction (sketchy).

I will be getting my multi-rating and maybe MEI in as little time as possible, hopefully 15hours or less, not sure if 15 is a published minimum for the MEI or not (the DE I know well says it wont be a problem for me).

Can i avoid paying for anymore multi-time?

I'm thinking RamAir is my best bet as their website says they actually prefer canidates with little ME time. What about the other frieght companies?
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Old September 19th, 2006, 18:02   #2
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Default Re: Minimum ME time for Airnet/RamAir/Ameriflight

Ramair will take you with 0 but in order to upgrade you need your multi

Airnet has an SIC program in which they will hire you with little more than a 1000 hours and low multi time and let you fly along with someone while you build experience and towards the total 135mins.
(I was offered an interview there with around 15 multi)

Ameriflight, I believe, wants around 50.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 18:18   #3
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Default Re: Minimum ME time for Airnet/RamAir/Ameriflight

You need 15 hours pic for the MEI. I was hired at Airnet with 32 multi.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 18:52   #4
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Default Re: Minimum ME time for Airnet/RamAir/Ameriflight

Thanks guys! Sounds like I should look close at ramair and airnet and if i went with RamAir i wouldnt even need to get my MEI, just the multi-rating in as little time as possible. I'll still probably get my MEI however, just to have it.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 19:18   #5
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I got on with Airnet with 10 hours of multi. Needless to say, I never got the MEI.

It can be done!!
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Old September 19th, 2006, 20:43   #6
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Sounds like I should look close at ramair and airnet . . .
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Old September 19th, 2006, 21:01   #7
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Just kidding. Yes, I'd look at Flight Express, Airnet, and Ram Air if you're low on multi, or try Ameriflight if you like the left coast .

Good luck out there...
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Old September 19th, 2006, 21:19   #8
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I didnt forget Flight Express. I even had it in the title untill I remembered they have a high single to multi ratio, and the avg newhire spends 6-12 months in the 210 before the baron (and people can only goto the baron if the company finds a replacement 210 pilot). I'm sure C210 frieght is just as enjoyable if not even more fun than a twin, but I want twin time. It's the lack of multi-time that will hold me back more than TT once i reach 1200TT. I'm not an obsessive overachiever i just like to have options/freedom, and its limited with no multi.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 21:29   #9
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Forget about FLX or Flight Express unless you want to fly a C-210 for six months. Airnet/Ram are both excellent companies that will get you loads of multi PIC quickly. Another option---if you are looking for a crew environment, multi turbine time, and you don't have a ton of multi time is Air Cargo Carriers. A friend of mine is there now, and he LOVES it.

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Default Re: Minimum ME time for Airnet/RamAir/Ameriflight

AMF wants a 100. Depending on the time of year (the fall) they might budge down to 50 or so. But usually they dont have to, way too many applicants.
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Default Re: Minimum ME time for Airnet/RamAir/Ameriflight

When I interviewed there (AMF) in June, the interviewer said he would look at my friend who had 1250TT and 47 multi at the time. I think that is the lowest I have heard but they were getting desperate because fo all the airline hiring. As far as teaching multi; it is where I really learned how to handle a multi engine airplane. Teaching is definitely not just about the job, it is about taking the knowledge you have rote (with only 15 hours) and developing that into understanding and correlation.

Just one more quick thought on how to build that time. If you know people with whom you could fly multi as an instructor, make it an instrument lesson and put 'em under the hood. Legal and a win win for the both of you . . .
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