AirNet living

dpilot83 · February 20th, 2006, 12:12

For you guys that have been there and done that, what all do you know about living arangements for training, etc? The scenario that I've imagined goes something like this, since I'm below the 1200 hours.

Go in for training. I hear they put you up in a hotel so I'd probably bring my car and the minimum stuff to get by and leave the rest of my stuff at my current location.

Go to whatever base builds time rapidly to get up to the 1200 hours. Rent an apartment or find someone to stay with for the month it will take to get IFR minimums.

Go to my first base. Get something a little more premanent.

Is that how it usually works? Any recommendations? Thanks.

Daniel

averyrm · February 20th, 2006, 16:32

Yup, that's about it. Some guys really hate their first base (Teterboro) so wait to find something perm. until they get to a base they like.

Flysher · February 20th, 2006, 19:05

just out of curiosity, is it the Amerihost that you stay at?

jsb172 · February 20th, 2006, 19:55

during training they put you in a towne place suites, its about 15 minutes away. Its nice, good free breakfast. After you become employed and you need to stay in columbus just for a night or two for whatever reason, then yes you would stay at the Amerihost right next to headquarters.

dpilot83 · February 22nd, 2006, 17:26

Thanks for your help guys. Teterboro was mentioned as a first base. Is this always the first place? Forgive my ignorance, but for some reason I was under the impression that after you got done with the SIC time you just got whatever base was open at the time. I really have no preference about where I end up, I'm very flexible. Just trying to understand the process. Thanks

jsb172 · February 23rd, 2006, 08:06

In all honesty, right now we have more pilots than runs open. Lately we have had 6-9 pilots sitting in the lounge with no where to go. One guy there now is working on his 4th week just sitting there with probably 3 more weeks before he can get a run. They have slowed a little, each class now has only 2 students per class. And yes You pretty much get whatever run is open when its your turn, it could be anywhere. (yes you get paid for just sitting there)

dpilot83 · February 23rd, 2006, 11:54

Can you continue as an SIC during the time while you're waiting for your own run? I would imagine the experience with weather that you get doing that woud help out once a run does open for me anyways.

Flysher · February 24th, 2006, 13:46

yes im wondering this also. Do SICs have to wait for a run or will they just stick you where ever they can to build the time?

falconvalley · February 24th, 2006, 19:38

I just passed my checkride last night. One of the assistant chief pilots told me that there are too many people in Columbus waiting for runs to open. So, I'm going to Milwaukee to fly on a route out of there for 20 hours or so. I'm at 1180 TT right now, so I'll only be there a week as SIC, then I come back to Columbus to play the waiting game to bid.

So yes, you go "where ever". You might even have your base of choice for SIC...who knows

jsb172 · February 24th, 2006, 21:05

As far as SICs go they dont really mind which run you do that on, except that it has to be a run that gets a lot of hours and is not to heavy. Since they dont pay for you to stay while you are doing the SIC thing most people try to go to a city where they know someone where they can stay for free. Once you become PIC qualified, no you can't keep sitting in on the run just for fun. As soon as you get your 1200 you go to columbus and sit around. While your sitting around waiting for a run, they pretty much consider you a floater, which means they can and will use you as need be. When i was going through the transition they sent me to BHM for a week to cover a run. If you have any other questions let me know.

dpilot83 · February 25th, 2006, 07:36

if it's going to be awhile sitting and waiting for a run is it possible to get qualified in more than one airplane while you're waiting? I'm actually fairly interested in the floater type of position but I know very little about it. Do you get more hours as a floater usually? do you end up jumpseating on the airnet system to get to wherever your'e supposed to fly all the time? do floaters usually stay in columbus? are they usuallly qualified in more than one airplane? any information on that topic would be appreciated as well. thanks

dpilot83 · February 25th, 2006, 08:40

I am asking a lot of questions that I might be able to find the answers to I now realize. I'll research a little more and then come up with some more informed questions. Thanks for all your help so far though guys.

Polarbear · February 26th, 2006, 06:48

While your a floater in Columbus do they pay for housing or are you required to relocate to there?

jsb172 · February 26th, 2006, 17:52

When you get out of training and you are just sitting in columbus you are only baron qualified. They wont train you in anything else until you get your own run, and yes they will keep you in the same room you were in during training or get you a new room closer to the airport. If you actually get a floater position as your "Run" then you will get trained in the chieftan and the caravan. The point of a floater is to be able to fill in anywhere in the company. They will send you on the "system" or airline you wherever they need you. The schedule is 8 days on then 6 days off and you could literally be anywhere during those 8 days. You might cover a run for a night or you could cover a run for a week just depends. Every week as a floater is different. I have a set run and I like it, althought it gets boring its kinda nice to know where you are going. A floater position would be fun but right now i like what i got. And floaters tend to not fly as much. I have talked to guys that have gotten only like 35 hrs in a month while floating. I have a fairly high time run, i get about 90-100 hrs a month. Depends what you want.

February 20th, 2006, 12:12	#1
dpilot83 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: I move frequently Posts: 83	AirNet living For you guys that have been there and done that, what all do you know about living arangements for training, etc? The scenario that I've imagined goes something like this, since I'm below the 1200 hours. Go in for training. I hear they put you up in a hotel so I'd probably bring my car and the minimum stuff to get by and leave the rest of my stuff at my current location. Go to whatever base builds time rapidly to get up to the 1200 hours. Rent an apartment or find someone to stay with for the month it will take to get IFR minimums. Go to my first base. Get something a little more premanent. Is that how it usually works? Any recommendations? Thanks. Daniel

February 20th, 2006, 16:32	#2
averyrm Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: LCK Posts: 1,653	Yup, that's about it. Some guys really hate their first base (Teterboro) so wait to find something perm. until they get to a base they like. __________________ <-- That guy with Belushi as his avitar

February 24th, 2006, 19:38	#9
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,960	I just passed my checkride last night. One of the assistant chief pilots told me that there are too many people in Columbus waiting for runs to open. So, I'm going to Milwaukee to fly on a route out of there for 20 hours or so. I'm at 1180 TT right now, so I'll only be there a week as SIC, then I come back to Columbus to play the waiting game to bid. So yes, you go "where ever". You might even have your base of choice for SIC...who knows __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

February 25th, 2006, 08:40	#12
dpilot83 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: I move frequently Posts: 83	I am asking a lot of questions that I might be able to find the answers to I now realize. I'll research a little more and then come up with some more informed questions. Thanks for all your help so far though guys. Last edited by dpilot83; February 25th, 2006 at 09:35.

February 26th, 2006, 06:48	#13
Polarbear Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 387	While your a floater in Columbus do they pay for housing or are you required to relocate to there? __________________ The only stupid questions are the ones you should have asked, but never did.

February 20th, 2006, 19:05	#3
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 448	just out of curiosity, is it the Amerihost that you stay at?

February 20th, 2006, 19:55	#4
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 62	during training they put you in a towne place suites, its about 15 minutes away. Its nice, good free breakfast. After you become employed and you need to stay in columbus just for a night or two for whatever reason, then yes you would stay at the Amerihost right next to headquarters.

February 22nd, 2006, 17:26	#5
dpilot83 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: I move frequently Posts: 83	Thanks for your help guys. Teterboro was mentioned as a first base. Is this always the first place? Forgive my ignorance, but for some reason I was under the impression that after you got done with the SIC time you just got whatever base was open at the time. I really have no preference about where I end up, I'm very flexible. Just trying to understand the process. Thanks

February 23rd, 2006, 08:06	#6
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 62	In all honesty, right now we have more pilots than runs open. Lately we have had 6-9 pilots sitting in the lounge with no where to go. One guy there now is working on his 4th week just sitting there with probably 3 more weeks before he can get a run. They have slowed a little, each class now has only 2 students per class. And yes You pretty much get whatever run is open when its your turn, it could be anywhere. (yes you get paid for just sitting there)

February 23rd, 2006, 11:54	#7
dpilot83 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: I move frequently Posts: 83	Can you continue as an SIC during the time while you're waiting for your own run? I would imagine the experience with weather that you get doing that woud help out once a run does open for me anyways.

February 24th, 2006, 13:46	#8
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 448	yes im wondering this also. Do SICs have to wait for a run or will they just stick you where ever they can to build the time?

February 24th, 2006, 21:05	#10
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 62	As far as SICs go they dont really mind which run you do that on, except that it has to be a run that gets a lot of hours and is not to heavy. Since they dont pay for you to stay while you are doing the SIC thing most people try to go to a city where they know someone where they can stay for free. Once you become PIC qualified, no you can't keep sitting in on the run just for fun. As soon as you get your 1200 you go to columbus and sit around. While your sitting around waiting for a run, they pretty much consider you a floater, which means they can and will use you as need be. When i was going through the transition they sent me to BHM for a week to cover a run. If you have any other questions let me know.

February 25th, 2006, 07:36	#11
dpilot83 Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: I move frequently Posts: 83	if it's going to be awhile sitting and waiting for a run is it possible to get qualified in more than one airplane while you're waiting? I'm actually fairly interested in the floater type of position but I know very little about it. Do you get more hours as a floater usually? do you end up jumpseating on the airnet system to get to wherever your'e supposed to fly all the time? do floaters usually stay in columbus? are they usuallly qualified in more than one airplane? any information on that topic would be appreciated as well. thanks

February 26th, 2006, 17:52	#14
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 62	When you get out of training and you are just sitting in columbus you are only baron qualified. They wont train you in anything else until you get your own run, and yes they will keep you in the same room you were in during training or get you a new room closer to the airport. If you actually get a floater position as your "Run" then you will get trained in the chieftan and the caravan. The point of a floater is to be able to fill in anywhere in the company. They will send you on the "system" or airline you wherever they need you. The schedule is 8 days on then 6 days off and you could literally be anywhere during those 8 days. You might cover a run for a night or you could cover a run for a week just depends. Every week as a floater is different. I have a set run and I like it, althought it gets boring its kinda nice to know where you are going. A floater position would be fun but right now i like what i got. And floaters tend to not fly as much. I have talked to guys that have gotten only like 35 hrs in a month while floating. I have a fairly high time run, i get about 90-100 hrs a month. Depends what you want.

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