Life at Kalitta

mach77 · January 7th, 2006, 01:56

Anyone have any info on what it's like to work for Kalitta Air.

JDE · January 9th, 2006, 12:25

It seems like I've seen some info about Kalitta on FlightInfo.

jonnyb · January 10th, 2006, 03:47

A guy I know quit recently. It was just after IOE I believe. He said he couldn't handle the way the airplanes were maintained, or the lack of maintenance if you will. I think an engine fell off one a them sumbitches a few years ago. Just fell clean off....

Bigey · January 12th, 2006, 03:41

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Originally Posted by jonnyb

A guy I know quit recently. It was just after IOE I believe. He said he couldn't handle the way the airplanes were maintained, or the lack of maintenance if you will. I think an engine fell off one a them sumbitches a few years ago. Just fell clean off....

Yeap, theres a picture of it in flight missing the engine.

Bigey · January 14th, 2006, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Bigey

Yeap, theres a picture of it in flight missing the engine.

Picture in question:

Bog · January 27th, 2006, 13:10

When I worked the ramp in PHX a few years back, we had the occasional Kalitta bird drop in.

For me, personally, I will never ride on a Kalitta bird as a passenger. Enough said.

Doug Taylor · January 27th, 2006, 13:17

Aww! You mean L1011's with the old, faded "Speedbird" livery spackled with oil doesn't incite confidence, Bog?

Come on man, that's jet time! People are paying good money for jet time, they'll let you get it for free!

jonnyb · January 27th, 2006, 15:40

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they'll let you get it for free!

That's what I'm talkin' about man! Just show me where to sign!

Diamnd15 · January 27th, 2006, 16:33

wait...an engine just fell off...who get blamed for something like that...lol sounds awful...what happens after something like that happens?

Doug Taylor · January 28th, 2006, 11:47

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.what happens after something like that happens?

Maybe a confused bewildered look from the flight crew, a couple of checklists and deciding where to land. Ya know, the standards.

jtrain609 · January 28th, 2006, 17:18

Would they even be able to see the engines up the cockpit?

Nick · January 28th, 2006, 17:31

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Originally Posted by John Herreshoff

Would they even be able to see the engines up the cockpit?

You can see both engines in the 747-200F easily from the windows on the upper deck if there are windows, and juuuust barely from the cockpit.

caliginousface · January 28th, 2006, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Bigey

Picture in question:

that picture they intentionally took the engine off, there is another photo where the outboard engine had fallen off. i believe it would be the number 4 engine, the one farthest to the right.

Maximillian_Jenius · January 28th, 2006, 21:52

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Originally Posted by jonnyb

A guy I know quit recently. It was just after IOE I believe. He said he couldn't handle the way the airplanes were maintained, or the lack of maintenance if you will. I think an engine fell off one a them sumbitches a few years ago. Just fell clean off....

Didn't it fall off over lake Michigan?

jtrain609 · January 29th, 2006, 15:01

Yup, good place for it to happen.

Bigey · January 31st, 2006, 22:22

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Originally Posted by John Herreshoff

Would they even be able to see the engines up the cockpit?

So i wonder when it fell of did the gauges just go 0?

I wonder if they thought they were losing power or something, or if they tried to relight it, only to find out it's gone.

I_Money · February 1st, 2006, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Bigey

Picture in question:

That is a 3 engine ferry - took off like that - it is no big deal

PhotoPilot · February 1st, 2006, 15:48

I was teaching at WMU at the time and the FAA actually asked us to look for it during our training flights.

Apparently, they thought that it was generating partial power despite the gauges being dead because their performance wasn't as bad as it should have been. Of course, after the fact they realized it was because there was no drag . . .

Kalitta's maintainence is historically suspect. Believe it or not, that wasn't the first engine that fallen off one of their planes in flight: a DC-8 lost an engine in flight in the early 90's I think.

adreamer · February 1st, 2006, 17:22

just wondering how much does an 747 engine cost? How much does those bolts and nuts or whatever attach engine to pylon cost?

Joe · February 3rd, 2006, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Didn't it fall off over lake Michigan?

Actually I think it landed on Donnie Darko's house...

ETAV8R · February 4th, 2006, 07:16

Hey, no worries right?
There are three other engines...
oh one more might drop, then another, then...
yeah don't fly on Kalitta.

jtrain609 · February 4th, 2006, 13:27

Good thing you can't fly on Kalitta, 'cause they're a cargo outfit eh?

ETAV8R · February 4th, 2006, 16:55

Someone mentioned about riding as a pax.
You could always enjoy a wooden box seat and send yourself somewhere.
It would be like a crap shoot, not sure where you are going or if you will arrive.

Monty · February 6th, 2006, 00:59

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He said he couldn't handle the way the airplanes were maintained, or the lack of maintenance if you will.

Back when I worked at FedEx in Memphis we would contract some routes out to Kalitta during the month of December. I can say without a doubt I have never seen aircraft in that bad of condition anywhere else in my life. I could not believe that anyone would fly that junk. Those things made the FedEx 727's and Northwest DC-9's look fresh off the assembly line.

Bog · February 8th, 2006, 12:20

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Originally Posted by John Herreshoff

Good thing you can't fly on Kalitta, 'cause they're a cargo outfit eh?

They used to have a handful of 747s in pax configuration. I worked on at 3am over Thanksgiving weekend of '97. The two guys who came to help me and I had no idea it was Kalitta until it pulled in the gate. We opened the bellies and looked around ... and all agreed that we would have paid extra to fly a different airline.

January 7th, 2006, 01:56	#1
mach77 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 38	Life at Kalitta Anyone have any info on what it's like to work for Kalitta Air.

January 9th, 2006, 12:25	#2
JDE Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,609	It seems like I've seen some info about Kalitta on FlightInfo. __________________ Jason

January 27th, 2006, 13:10	#6
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,170	When I worked the ramp in PHX a few years back, we had the occasional Kalitta bird drop in. For me, personally, I will never ride on a Kalitta bird as a passenger. Enough said. __________________ "To be old and wise you must first be young and stupid." - Anon

January 27th, 2006, 13:17	#7
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Aww! You mean L1011's with the old, faded "Speedbird" livery spackled with oil doesn't incite confidence, Bog? Come on man, that's jet time! People are paying good money for jet time, they'll let you get it for free! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

January 28th, 2006, 17:18	#11
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Would they even be able to see the engines up the cockpit? __________________ "Jetlink 2940, on another radio, contact clearance for new airways..."

January 10th, 2006, 03:47	#3
jonnyb Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: So. California Posts: 1,304	A guy I know quit recently. It was just after IOE I believe. He said he couldn't handle the way the airplanes were maintained, or the lack of maintenance if you will. I think an engine fell off one a them sumbitches a few years ago. Just fell clean off....

January 27th, 2006, 16:33	#9
Diamnd15 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area, Cali Posts: 312	wait...an engine just fell off...who get blamed for something like that...lol sounds awful...what happens after something like that happens?

January 29th, 2006, 15:01	#15
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Yup, good place for it to happen. __________________ "Jetlink 2940, on another radio, contact clearance for new airways..."

February 1st, 2006, 15:48	#18
PhotoPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 902	I was teaching at WMU at the time and the FAA actually asked us to look for it during our training flights. Apparently, they thought that it was generating partial power despite the gauges being dead because their performance wasn't as bad as it should have been. Of course, after the fact they realized it was because there was no drag . . . Kalitta's maintainence is historically suspect. Believe it or not, that wasn't the first engine that fallen off one of their planes in flight: a DC-8 lost an engine in flight in the early 90's I think. __________________ .......__o .......\<, ....( )/ ( ) If it isn't fixed, it's broken.

February 1st, 2006, 17:22	#19
adreamer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: AZO Posts: 1,424	just wondering how much does an 747 engine cost? How much does those bolts and nuts or whatever attach engine to pylon cost? __________________ CFI/CFII/MEI/Right seat

February 4th, 2006, 07:16	#21
ETAV8R Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 538	Hey, no worries right? There are three other engines... oh one more might drop, then another, then... yeah don't fly on Kalitta.

February 4th, 2006, 13:27	#22
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Good thing you can't fly on Kalitta, 'cause they're a cargo outfit eh? __________________ "Jetlink 2940, on another radio, contact clearance for new airways..."

February 4th, 2006, 16:55	#23
ETAV8R Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 538	Someone mentioned about riding as a pax. You could always enjoy a wooden box seat and send yourself somewhere. It would be like a crap shoot, not sure where you are going or if you will arrive.

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