Ameriflight - T-prop upgrade?

WAFlyBoy · December 25th, 2005, 02:11

Hi Folks,

If a pilot hired at Ameriflight is initially assigned a piston-twin, how does it typically take to be upgraded to a turbo-prop? (Assume the pilot is willing to relocate.) Anybody have some info on this?

Thanks.

DE727UPS · December 25th, 2005, 03:21

3 months. Give or take a month.

Hootie · December 25th, 2005, 22:17

I know a guy who upgraded at two months out of BUR by going to an outstation. And if you are at the right base you can go to SLC, Billings, or ONT at about 3 months from what I have seen. Just dont go to PDX or OAK because they wont let you leave for at least six months because they are so understaffed in the chieftan. At my base the upgrade is at 7-8 months at the moment. So it depends, but I hope this helps!

WAFlyBoy · December 26th, 2005, 00:32

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Originally Posted by Hootie9750

I know a guy who upgraded at two months out of BUR by going to an outstation. And if you are at the right base you can go to SLC, Billings, or ONT at about 3 months from what I have seen. Just dont go to PDX or OAK because they wont let you leave for at least six months because they are so understaffed in the chieftan. At my base the upgrade is at 7-8 months at the moment. So it depends, but I hope this helps!

Yeah, that info is very helpful. I would really like to be at PDX (or SEA if there's a base there), but I'd probably be willing to move around. I still have some time yet before I have 135 mins, but it's fun to think about the future.

Thanks!

DE727UPS · December 26th, 2005, 02:06

"or SEA if there's a base there"

there is no base at SEA...mostly big jets.

try BFI

EatSleepFly · December 26th, 2005, 14:30

There is a six month base lock when you get a new base. Sometimes people get out of them to go to outstations or places like Billings.

But you definitely won't get out of PDX in under 6 months and you won't get a TP in PDX for a long time. It's a fairly senior turbine base. It's a cool base though, if you don't mind flying the Chieftain. All day runs, too.

ETAV8R · December 26th, 2005, 15:54

OAK and ONT wouldn't be that bad of a place to be based. Anyone here based at either of these locations? Pros/Cons?
For future reference of course

WAFlyBoy · December 27th, 2005, 02:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"or SEA if there's a base there"

there is no base at SEA...mostly big jets.

try BFI

Right, BFI. That's what I meant to say, of course. Is there a pilot base at BFI?

WAFlyBoy · December 27th, 2005, 02:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by eta71

OAK and ONT wouldn't be that bad of a place to be based. Anyone here based at either of these locations? Pros/Cons?
For future reference of course

The first thought I have about either of those bases is the high cost of living.

DE727UPS · December 27th, 2005, 02:31

"Is there a pilot base at BFI?"

Yes there is. Trybysky is a checkairman there.

WAFlyBoy · December 27th, 2005, 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by EatSleepFly

It's a cool base though, if you don't mind flying the Chieftain. All day runs, too.

Thanks for the info, EatSleepFly. I would love to move back to the northwest sometime soon (Portland or Seattle), so Ameriflight seems like a good prospect. I don't much want to work for Horizon, although I'll probably consider it as my logbook gets thicker.

ETAV8R · December 27th, 2005, 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAFlyBoy

The first thought I have about either of those bases is the high cost of living.

I already live in SoCal and the cost of living in ONT is cheaper than where I am. Albeit not by much.

mtsu_av8er · December 28th, 2005, 15:15

Hmmm . . . Oakland. Wonder if my Brother will let me crash with him . . .

Philip · December 28th, 2005, 17:50

I have a buddy based in OAK, he flew the lance, then the chieftan, then the BE99, I think the BE99 took about 8-12 months total. Seems real happy there...

scoobs · December 30th, 2005, 14:21

And if you have some turbine experience you could possibly start in a 99 if there is an opening. How many hours are the 99 and Metro guys getting a month?

Trybysky · January 1st, 2006, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobs

And if you have some turbine experience you could possibly start in a 99 if there is an opening. How many hours are the 99 and Metro guys getting a month?

define "some". They have and do hire straight into the 99/1900/Metro, but they like to upgrade the guys they have too.

At BFI our guys are getting anywhere from 20 to 60 hrs/mo. More or less depending. How's that for vauge.

I've been in the 99 for 4 months or so and I'm creeping up on ~300hrs in it and I still don't hold enough senority for a run. All reserve.

BFI and PDX are both very senior bases for turbine time.

de727Ups: training captain now, checkairman ride maybe this month, I hope. Peak is now over so some time may have free'd up. --do you remember when you were junior enough to work during peak!

Later, TBS

DE727UPS · January 1st, 2006, 22:49

"do you remember when you were junior enough to work during peak!"

Ummmmm....no. Where were you the day after Xmas? I was at Hooters by myself. Well, not really by myself but without the pilot company I was hoping for.

scoobs · January 3rd, 2006, 15:28

So what is the most junior 99 base besides the islands? And how senior are the runs that end in San?

Hootie · January 4th, 2006, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobs

So what is the most junior 99 base besides the islands? And how senior are the runs that end in San?

I dont think san juan is the most junior 99 base. san juan only has one 99 and it is a reserve line. SLC and Billings are the two most junior I would guess. Not that they are bad bases it's just that they have a lot more turbine equipment.

scoobs · January 4th, 2006, 19:06

SLC is all turbine equipment. Would you be able to hold ONT on the 99 in six months?

scoobs · January 4th, 2006, 20:52

Also what is starting pay on the 99?

Hootie · January 5th, 2006, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobs

SLC is all turbine equipment. Would you be able to hold ONT on the 99 in six months?

Yes. recently guys move from BUR PA-31 to ONT BE-99 around 5-6 months.
Pay is about $2150 a month I believe but that is base pay. You can make more. I took home after taxes more than that number last month flying the chieftan.

scoobs · January 5th, 2006, 13:32

Is that $2150 starting pay on the piston? And are newhires still going to the 99 or does is it vary?

Hootie · January 5th, 2006, 14:28

99 pay. And just like everything "it depends".

N8389P · January 8th, 2006, 02:18

Are they needing pilots in BUR bad right now? What are the times that most pilots are getting on with? Anyone know about the lance run out of EMT? Are they still flying the lance?

December 25th, 2005, 02:11	#1
WAFlyBoy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wa Posts: 683	Ameriflight - T-prop upgrade? Hi Folks, If a pilot hired at Ameriflight is initially assigned a piston-twin, how does it typically take to be upgraded to a turbo-prop? (Assume the pilot is willing to relocate.) Anybody have some info on this? Thanks.

December 25th, 2005, 22:17	#3
Hootie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Zona Posts: 1,179	I know a guy who upgraded at two months out of BUR by going to an outstation. And if you are at the right base you can go to SLC, Billings, or ONT at about 3 months from what I have seen. Just dont go to PDX or OAK because they wont let you leave for at least six months because they are so understaffed in the chieftan. At my base the upgrade is at 7-8 months at the moment. So it depends, but I hope this helps! __________________ Whatever happened to catching a good old fashioned passionate ass whooping?

December 26th, 2005, 14:30	#6
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	There is a six month base lock when you get a new base. Sometimes people get out of them to go to outstations or places like Billings. But you definitely won't get out of PDX in under 6 months and you won't get a TP in PDX for a long time. It's a fairly senior turbine base. It's a cool base though, if you don't mind flying the Chieftain. All day runs, too. __________________

December 28th, 2005, 15:15	#13
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,564	Hmmm . . . Oakland. Wonder if my Brother will let me crash with him . . . __________________ Ike is one nasty storm, and it's all the fault of management. That's why we need ALPA.

January 5th, 2006, 14:28	#24
Hootie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Zona Posts: 1,179	99 pay. And just like everything "it depends". __________________ Whatever happened to catching a good old fashioned passionate ass whooping?

December 25th, 2005, 03:21	#2
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,545	3 months. Give or take a month.

December 26th, 2005, 02:06	#5
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,545	"or SEA if there's a base there" there is no base at SEA...mostly big jets. try BFI

December 26th, 2005, 15:54	#7
ETAV8R Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 536	OAK and ONT wouldn't be that bad of a place to be based. Anyone here based at either of these locations? Pros/Cons? For future reference of course

December 27th, 2005, 02:31	#10
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,545	"Is there a pilot base at BFI?" Yes there is. Trybysky is a checkairman there.

December 28th, 2005, 17:50	#14
Philip Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KAPA Posts: 1,580	I have a buddy based in OAK, he flew the lance, then the chieftan, then the BE99, I think the BE99 took about 8-12 months total. Seems real happy there...

December 30th, 2005, 14:21	#15
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	And if you have some turbine experience you could possibly start in a 99 if there is an opening. How many hours are the 99 and Metro guys getting a month?

January 1st, 2006, 22:49	#17
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,545	"do you remember when you were junior enough to work during peak!" Ummmmm....no. Where were you the day after Xmas? I was at Hooters by myself. Well, not really by myself but without the pilot company I was hoping for.

January 3rd, 2006, 15:28	#18
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	So what is the most junior 99 base besides the islands? And how senior are the runs that end in San?

January 4th, 2006, 19:06	#20
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	SLC is all turbine equipment. Would you be able to hold ONT on the 99 in six months?

January 4th, 2006, 20:52	#21
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Also what is starting pay on the 99?

January 5th, 2006, 13:32	#23
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Is that $2150 starting pay on the piston? And are newhires still going to the 99 or does is it vary?

January 8th, 2006, 02:18	#25
N8389P Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KAPV AppleValley Posts: 126	Are they needing pilots in BUR bad right now? What are the times that most pilots are getting on with? Anyone know about the lance run out of EMT? Are they still flying the lance?

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