Airnet ?

scoobs · December 8th, 2005, 23:20

Does Airnet have floaters on the Lear?

Stone Cold · December 9th, 2005, 04:27

Yes. In various cities (not sure of all locations).

TX

scoobs · December 9th, 2005, 14:06

Thanks for the help. Tx could you describe what its like to be a floater? How many days you work on/off. Do they airline you out and is pay better because of OT?

Stone Cold · December 9th, 2005, 16:28

I'll answer later tonight. On the way out the door.

TX

NightCargo · December 9th, 2005, 21:11

Disclaimer: The following info is coming from a former starchecker, so others may have more current info.

Airnet has Jet floaters (now called reserve) in APA, MDW, CMH and maybe one in DAL. There may be others but those were the main ones when I was there.

As for the QOL, I believe most of them work 8 on, 6 off. Generally you commute to and from assignments (usually on the airnet system) on the first and last days of your 8 day rotation. Some were doozies. For example, I once did a BUR-PHX-CMH-APA deadhead on the Lear jumpseat just to get into position to crew a APA-HLN-PDX run that same night. Looooooong day. If travel can't be done on your "on" days, then they pay you travel pay (which varies by position) for using you on your days off. You also get per diem for each night you are away from home. Eight straight days sucks, but six off is pretty good.

As far as OT is concerned, it all depends on the run you are covering. Airnet uses a duty rig system that pays you more the more flying you do. Each hour you spend on duty, you get credit for a half hour of pay, and each flying hour equals one hour of pay. You get a minimum of 10 hours of pay per day, but can easily go over that. For example, if you were on duty for 8 hours and flew 3 hours (rare), your rig would be (8 duty/2 + 3 hrs flight)= 7 hours (which would pay 10 hours min). If you did 12 hours duty and 6 hours flight, it would be (12 duty/2 + 6 hrs flight)= 12 hours (2hrs OT). So you can't really ever count on OT as a floater, but it is almost impossible to avoid it altogether.

As a former floater, I enjoyed the variety of runs that you would see. Got to see and do lots of cool things, and wouldn't trade any of it for anything.

Regards,
NightCargo

Stone Cold · December 10th, 2005, 07:33

Scoobs,

The above post answers most of your questions. That is dead-on for our pay. As far as Floaters and OT, sometimes we get it, but it depends on the run you're doing. This week, I am doing tons of flying, and getting OT just about every day. Where we really make money is on extra days, since it's all time and a half. The last few weeks, I have had 9th and 10th days, and made some good paychecks. It limits you, though, on days off, and QOL is definitely a tradeoff. 8/6 schedule, and I'm loving it. I was in Columbus the first few days this week, I'm in Chicago now, St Lous tomorrow, back to Columbus on Sun (all the route I'm doing). Then I hop on a Lear back to St Louis, fly a run there, Lear to Orlando, fly a run there on Wed, and done for the week.

Some times they airline us, but they try to keep it within our system since it saves money. I've spent a lot of time side-saddle in our Lears (our J/S's sit sideways, 2 per Lear, right in the doorway). Like I said, not sure where all the Jet SIC floaters are located, but that sounds like a good list above.

TX

Minnesota_Flyer · December 10th, 2005, 10:08

Pardon the hijack -- do any of you Airnet folks know anything about the St. Paul base? How big, how senior?

scoobs · December 10th, 2005, 14:55

Awesome info. Is it hard to get a floater position on the Lear?

Stone Cold · December 10th, 2005, 22:11

Scoobs,

You have to fly the props first. I think our upgrades are running about 12 months, then it just depends on who is getting tired of living out of suitcases or is moving on.

MF, I don't know how big or senior it is, maybe somebody else will chime in...

TX

Flysher · December 11th, 2005, 18:41

Just to make sure.. floater positions are chosen and not assigned correct?

Stone Cold · December 11th, 2005, 22:11

That's correct.

Flysher · December 12th, 2005, 19:56

Thanks Txpilot.. any advice on getting my foot in the door more with airnet? Im applying 2 - 3 times a month and writing emails every now and then, even left craig a message today asking him to give me resume advice. I really want to work for Airnet, I just hope I am doing everything right.

Thanks

Stone Cold · December 12th, 2005, 23:55

jfleisher,

How many hours do you have? Sorry if I've already asked, but just curious. I think SIC's are running about 800+ hours TT, with most running 1000+...last I've heard anyways.

Just keep submitting resumes...as I've said before, I submitted for a year solid, once a month on the 1st of the month, from 500 hours until I did the aerial survey thing (850 hours at that point), stopped due to committing to that job until the end of the season (4 months), and applied and was hired the last app I put in. I had 1170TT 35ME, since I know it will be asked again.

Good luck and PM me if yu need other info.

TX

Flysher · December 13th, 2005, 21:16

txpilot - im just shy of 800 TT right now with 65 multi. I will take your advice and continue applying, i have so about 5 times so far, twice a month. Thanks for the advice!!!

Stone Cold · December 14th, 2005, 03:26

No prob...that's why I keep coming here.

TX

December 8th, 2005, 23:20	#1
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Airnet ? Does Airnet have floaters on the Lear?

December 9th, 2005, 21:11	#5
NightCargo Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA Posts: 89	Floating Disclaimer: The following info is coming from a former starchecker, so others may have more current info. Airnet has Jet floaters (now called reserve) in APA, MDW, CMH and maybe one in DAL. There may be others but those were the main ones when I was there. As for the QOL, I believe most of them work 8 on, 6 off. Generally you commute to and from assignments (usually on the airnet system) on the first and last days of your 8 day rotation. Some were doozies. For example, I once did a BUR-PHX-CMH-APA deadhead on the Lear jumpseat just to get into position to crew a APA-HLN-PDX run that same night. Looooooong day. If travel can't be done on your "on" days, then they pay you travel pay (which varies by position) for using you on your days off. You also get per diem for each night you are away from home. Eight straight days sucks, but six off is pretty good. As far as OT is concerned, it all depends on the run you are covering. Airnet uses a duty rig system that pays you more the more flying you do. Each hour you spend on duty, you get credit for a half hour of pay, and each flying hour equals one hour of pay. You get a minimum of 10 hours of pay per day, but can easily go over that. For example, if you were on duty for 8 hours and flew 3 hours (rare), your rig would be (8 duty/2 + 3 hrs flight)= 7 hours (which would pay 10 hours min). If you did 12 hours duty and 6 hours flight, it would be (12 duty/2 + 6 hrs flight)= 12 hours (2hrs OT). So you can't really ever count on OT as a floater, but it is almost impossible to avoid it altogether. As a former floater, I enjoyed the variety of runs that you would see. Got to see and do lots of cool things, and wouldn't trade any of it for anything. Regards, NightCargo

December 10th, 2005, 10:08	#7
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,896	Pardon the hijack -- do any of you Airnet folks know anything about the St. Paul base? How big, how senior? __________________ I'm free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally. Commercial Pilot - ASEL, Instrument 290 TT

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December 9th, 2005, 04:27	#2
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	Yes. In various cities (not sure of all locations). TX

December 9th, 2005, 14:06	#3
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Thanks for the help. Tx could you describe what its like to be a floater? How many days you work on/off. Do they airline you out and is pay better because of OT?

December 9th, 2005, 16:28	#4
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	I'll answer later tonight. On the way out the door. TX

December 10th, 2005, 07:33	#6
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	Scoobs, The above post answers most of your questions. That is dead-on for our pay. As far as Floaters and OT, sometimes we get it, but it depends on the run you're doing. This week, I am doing tons of flying, and getting OT just about every day. Where we really make money is on extra days, since it's all time and a half. The last few weeks, I have had 9th and 10th days, and made some good paychecks. It limits you, though, on days off, and QOL is definitely a tradeoff. 8/6 schedule, and I'm loving it. I was in Columbus the first few days this week, I'm in Chicago now, St Lous tomorrow, back to Columbus on Sun (all the route I'm doing). Then I hop on a Lear back to St Louis, fly a run there, Lear to Orlando, fly a run there on Wed, and done for the week. Some times they airline us, but they try to keep it within our system since it saves money. I've spent a lot of time side-saddle in our Lears (our J/S's sit sideways, 2 per Lear, right in the doorway). Like I said, not sure where all the Jet SIC floaters are located, but that sounds like a good list above. TX

December 10th, 2005, 14:55	#8
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Awesome info. Is it hard to get a floater position on the Lear?

December 10th, 2005, 22:11	#9
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	Scoobs, You have to fly the props first. I think our upgrades are running about 12 months, then it just depends on who is getting tired of living out of suitcases or is moving on. MF, I don't know how big or senior it is, maybe somebody else will chime in... TX

December 11th, 2005, 18:41	#10
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 444	Just to make sure.. floater positions are chosen and not assigned correct?

December 11th, 2005, 22:11	#11
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	That's correct.

December 12th, 2005, 19:56	#12
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 444	Thanks Txpilot.. any advice on getting my foot in the door more with airnet? Im applying 2 - 3 times a month and writing emails every now and then, even left craig a message today asking him to give me resume advice. I really want to work for Airnet, I just hope I am doing everything right. Thanks

December 12th, 2005, 23:55	#13
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	jfleisher, How many hours do you have? Sorry if I've already asked, but just curious. I think SIC's are running about 800+ hours TT, with most running 1000+...last I've heard anyways. Just keep submitting resumes...as I've said before, I submitted for a year solid, once a month on the 1st of the month, from 500 hours until I did the aerial survey thing (850 hours at that point), stopped due to committing to that job until the end of the season (4 months), and applied and was hired the last app I put in. I had 1170TT 35ME, since I know it will be asked again. Good luck and PM me if yu need other info. TX

December 13th, 2005, 21:16	#14
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 444	txpilot - im just shy of 800 TT right now with 65 multi. I will take your advice and continue applying, i have so about 5 times so far, twice a month. Thanks for the advice!!!

December 14th, 2005, 03:26	#15
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,972	No prob...that's why I keep coming here. TX