airnet training

jsb172 · July 14th, 2005, 01:14

Well I just took my indoc test at airnet. I have been in training for about a week and a half so far and took the first test today. Not to hard, but not a cakewalk. Class averarge was 92. I must say I am impressed with this place. This is a first class organization. Maintenance, logistics, and pay are second to none. Multiple first year runs pay as much as 40k, and if you do the bare minimum you are guranteed 24K. I have been told first year average is 30K. I gotta peak at the jumpseat list, even at airnet you have every regional, southwest, northwest, and many many others to jumpseat on! Its like being an airline pilot without the reserve, crappy pay, SIC time, and all the BS a 121 job comes with. The flying is going to be tough I can't lie, but its going to be a great experience. If anyone is interested in working here, it seems to be worth it, it will make you a damn good pilot (not a button pusher). If anyone has any questions let me know.

BrettInLJ · July 14th, 2005, 12:49

Are the competitive minimums listed on the site about accurate?

CaptChris · July 14th, 2005, 17:24

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Are the competitive minimums listed on the site about accurate?

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I can't speak for everyone but I know a CFI that got hired with 950TT and about 30 multi. The only downside to having little to no multi is the chance of being thrown in the Caravan! In any event, Airnet would be an awesome place to work. Starting this winter I am gonna start sending my application there every month!

BrianNC · July 14th, 2005, 20:07

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Are the competitive minimums listed on the site about accurate?

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I can't speak for everyone but I know a CFI that got hired with 950TT and about 30 multi. The only downside to having little to no multi is the chance of being thrown in the Caravan! In any event, Airnet would be an awesome place to work. Starting this winter I am gonna start sending my application there every month!

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I thought you had to have 135 IFR minimums?

E_Dawg · July 14th, 2005, 21:55

Congrats on the airnet gig. Just something ive noticed is that the cargo guys tend to bash the airline guys as being button pushers. IMHO it is just two different styles of flying. Putting a cargo guy into an rj with no training would be just as bad as putting an rj pilot into a pa31. Anyways congrats.

As far as the 1200hrs go I think airnet has something going where if you're hired at <1200 you'll ride on the line as sic until getting to 1200 then fly as pic.

jsb172 · July 15th, 2005, 02:20

I have no idea what the competitive minimums are, but i do know they are hiring. I have been here for about 2 weeks and they are doing interviews everyday. You dont need 1200 for the SIC program, but I think they are look for around 900 or more. One of the guys who was in charge of hiring is in my class ( he helped interview me) and he said they dont have a particular formula. Its more or less how you fly the sim and what type of person you are, they have an idea about you in the first 5 minutes they meet you. To the 121 guys, I'm not knocking it, I wanted to be a regional pilot form day 1, thats why i got into flying. The regionals were the first logical step, but as I progressed in this industry I discovered that you have to make yourself (resume) stand out. Companies are looking for diversity. I have flight instructed, flew skydivers, and now I will have night freight pilot to add to my list. I might even go 121 after airnet, but guys that go form college to flight instructing to 1000 hours SIC in a RJ are everywhere! Everyone has to find what makes them happy, but all my friends flying 121 have found out that its not what they thought it was going to be. Having said all that good luck to everyone and just find a job that makes you happy!

scoobs · July 15th, 2005, 22:38

How senior is Denver on the lear?

griffithvoice · July 15th, 2005, 22:44

Speaking of Airnet, I remember somewhere that they had some sort of flow through agreement with US Airways???? Does anyone know anything about that??

steve

Stone Cold · July 18th, 2005, 02:11

As far as I know, there are no flow-throughs since Airnet is not affiliated with them.

cimepilot · July 18th, 2005, 13:59

There are no flow throughs at Airnet. Now, as far as the hiring and SIC in the props goes....

Airnet has been hiring people in the 1000-1200 total time range for SIC positions in the props. We are FAA approved to have SICs in our single-pilot prop aircraft and they can log total time for the legs in which they fly. Our SICs are paid at a lower rate than the PICs. Details of pay for SICs and PICs is available on Airnet's website.

Once you get 1200 total time, you tranistion to a Prop PIC, bid a base and if required, you receive additional aircraft training. Airnet also hires right into the PIC position if you have 135 IFR mins.

One word of caution...there is a strong chance that the SIC program is going to be eliminated for cost issues. My recommendation would be to get your application and resume in now if you have 1000 total or more. Also, if you have the 135 mins., you are probably guaranteed an interview since we are a bit short on pilots. Good luck to everyone and let me know if you have any questions. I have been here 14 months and just finished my Lear training. So, needless to say, I have seen and heard just about everything good and bad regarding Airnet. Good Luck to all!

griffithvoice · July 19th, 2005, 02:24

Hey guys,
Sorry I could have sworn that they had some soft of informal arrangement with USAIR whereby they gave you a letter of Rec and usair guaranteed an interview.

But I've just gone back through airnets website and cant find it anywhere so its likely ive got them mixed up with another freight company.

I look at so many of these recruitment sites these days that after a while they all start to look the same

cheers
steve

Doug Taylor · July 19th, 2005, 02:47

Where to start with that one... !

griffithvoice · July 19th, 2005, 05:00

LOL Doug.

I didn't mean that all companies are the same, far from it. Just that eventually getting a job in the industry feels so far off that I longingly look at the minimums all the time.

LOL
Steve
P.S I keep forgetting that you guys are pretty quick witted around here.

Doug Taylor · July 19th, 2005, 10:52

No, I was concerned with the statement that they had a flow thru with US Air.

A300Capt · July 19th, 2005, 11:10

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No, I was concerned with the statement that they had a flow thru with US Air

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Exactly where on the current USAir furlough list will that put them?!?

CaptChris · July 19th, 2005, 15:55

[ QUOTE ]
Hey guys,
Sorry I could have sworn that they had some soft of informal arrangement with USAIR whereby they gave you a letter of Rec and usair guaranteed an interview.

But I've just gone back through airnets website and cant find it anywhere so its likely ive got them mixed up with another freight company.

I look at so many of these recruitment sites these days that after a while they all start to look the same

cheers
steve

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I don't think there is anyone in the WORLD right now with a flowthrough agreement with USAir....

griffithvoice · July 19th, 2005, 17:24

Ok I went searching and found what i was looking for:

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ALPC: What does the new hiring alliance with USA Jet in Michigan entail?

Washka: We’ve established a hiring alliance that allows our pilots who would like to move forward with their careers to start out at AirNet for 24 months to build the hours they need to apply to USA Jet, and based just on a recommendation from our flight department, they can do a face-to-face interview with USA Jet. If the interview goes well, they can go straight to USA Jet’s training without going through its initial application process.

We know some pilots like to fly bigger planes, so USA Jet’s DC-9s are a good step up, and they’re a Part 121 carrier, and our pilots who eventually want to fly for the major airlines know they need that experience. We may have other avenues to progress available soon, too, but this one with USA Jet is our first official agreement.

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http://www.airapps.com/articles/AirNetDec99/airnet.html

So it seems that it's USA Jet not US Airways. Sorry for the confusion guys but at least its cleared up now.

Caveat:That article is quite old, from Dec 99.

Cheers
Steve

EatSleepFly · July 19th, 2005, 17:35

Even if it is still in place, USA Jet isn't doing so well at the moment. They're not hiring or even interviewing, and would've recently furloughed, except all of their pilots took a paycut instead... much to their dismay.

Callous · July 20th, 2005, 02:05

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hey guys,
Sorry I could have sworn that they had some soft of informal arrangement with USAIR whereby they gave you a letter of Rec and usair guaranteed an interview.

But I've just gone back through airnets website and cant find it anywhere so its likely ive got them mixed up with another freight company.

I look at so many of these recruitment sites these days that after a while they all start to look the same

cheers
steve

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think there is anyone in the WORLD right now with a flowthrough agreement with USAir....

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm just wondering whether or not US Air will use it's flowback agreement with Greyhound if the HP merger doesn't work out.

July 14th, 2005, 01:14	#1
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61	airnet training Well I just took my indoc test at airnet. I have been in training for about a week and a half so far and took the first test today. Not to hard, but not a cakewalk. Class averarge was 92. I must say I am impressed with this place. This is a first class organization. Maintenance, logistics, and pay are second to none. Multiple first year runs pay as much as 40k, and if you do the bare minimum you are guranteed 24K. I have been told first year average is 30K. I gotta peak at the jumpseat list, even at airnet you have every regional, southwest, northwest, and many many others to jumpseat on! Its like being an airline pilot without the reserve, crappy pay, SIC time, and all the BS a 121 job comes with. The flying is going to be tough I can't lie, but its going to be a great experience. If anyone is interested in working here, it seems to be worth it, it will make you a damn good pilot (not a button pusher). If anyone has any questions let me know.

July 14th, 2005, 12:49	#2
BrettInLJ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Home:SFO Work:MSP Posts: 1,035	Re: airnet training Are the competitive minimums listed on the site about accurate?

July 14th, 2005, 17:24	#3
CaptChris Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 549	Re: airnet training [ QUOTE ] Are the competitive minimums listed on the site about accurate? [/ QUOTE ] I can't speak for everyone but I know a CFI that got hired with 950TT and about 30 multi. The only downside to having little to no multi is the chance of being thrown in the Caravan! In any event, Airnet would be an awesome place to work. Starting this winter I am gonna start sending my application there every month!

July 14th, 2005, 20:07	#4
BrianNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 817	Re: airnet training [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Are the competitive minimums listed on the site about accurate? [/ QUOTE ] I can't speak for everyone but I know a CFI that got hired with 950TT and about 30 multi. The only downside to having little to no multi is the chance of being thrown in the Caravan! In any event, Airnet would be an awesome place to work. Starting this winter I am gonna start sending my application there every month! [/ QUOTE ] I thought you had to have 135 IFR minimums?

July 14th, 2005, 21:55	#5
E_Dawg Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 4,170	Re: airnet training Congrats on the airnet gig. Just something ive noticed is that the cargo guys tend to bash the airline guys as being button pushers. IMHO it is just two different styles of flying. Putting a cargo guy into an rj with no training would be just as bad as putting an rj pilot into a pa31. Anyways congrats. As far as the 1200hrs go I think airnet has something going where if you're hired at <1200 you'll ride on the line as sic until getting to 1200 then fly as pic.

July 15th, 2005, 02:20	#6
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61	Re: airnet training I have no idea what the competitive minimums are, but i do know they are hiring. I have been here for about 2 weeks and they are doing interviews everyday. You dont need 1200 for the SIC program, but I think they are look for around 900 or more. One of the guys who was in charge of hiring is in my class ( he helped interview me) and he said they dont have a particular formula. Its more or less how you fly the sim and what type of person you are, they have an idea about you in the first 5 minutes they meet you. To the 121 guys, I'm not knocking it, I wanted to be a regional pilot form day 1, thats why i got into flying. The regionals were the first logical step, but as I progressed in this industry I discovered that you have to make yourself (resume) stand out. Companies are looking for diversity. I have flight instructed, flew skydivers, and now I will have night freight pilot to add to my list. I might even go 121 after airnet, but guys that go form college to flight instructing to 1000 hours SIC in a RJ are everywhere! Everyone has to find what makes them happy, but all my friends flying 121 have found out that its not what they thought it was going to be. Having said all that good luck to everyone and just find a job that makes you happy!

July 15th, 2005, 22:38	#7
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Re: airnet training How senior is Denver on the lear?

July 15th, 2005, 22:44	#8
griffithvoice Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 16	Re: airnet training Speaking of Airnet, I remember somewhere that they had some sort of flow through agreement with US Airways???? Does anyone know anything about that?? steve

July 18th, 2005, 02:11	#9
Stone Cold Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE US Posts: 2,975	Re: airnet training As far as I know, there are no flow-throughs since Airnet is not affiliated with them.

July 18th, 2005, 13:59	#10
cimepilot Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 231	Re: airnet training There are no flow throughs at Airnet. Now, as far as the hiring and SIC in the props goes.... Airnet has been hiring people in the 1000-1200 total time range for SIC positions in the props. We are FAA approved to have SICs in our single-pilot prop aircraft and they can log total time for the legs in which they fly. Our SICs are paid at a lower rate than the PICs. Details of pay for SICs and PICs is available on Airnet's website. Once you get 1200 total time, you tranistion to a Prop PIC, bid a base and if required, you receive additional aircraft training. Airnet also hires right into the PIC position if you have 135 IFR mins. One word of caution...there is a strong chance that the SIC program is going to be eliminated for cost issues. My recommendation would be to get your application and resume in now if you have 1000 total or more. Also, if you have the 135 mins., you are probably guaranteed an interview since we are a bit short on pilots. Good luck to everyone and let me know if you have any questions. I have been here 14 months and just finished my Lear training. So, needless to say, I have seen and heard just about everything good and bad regarding Airnet. Good Luck to all!

July 19th, 2005, 02:24	#11
griffithvoice Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 16	Re: airnet training Hey guys, Sorry I could have sworn that they had some soft of informal arrangement with USAIR whereby they gave you a letter of Rec and usair guaranteed an interview. But I've just gone back through airnets website and cant find it anywhere so its likely ive got them mixed up with another freight company. I look at so many of these recruitment sites these days that after a while they all start to look the same cheers steve

July 19th, 2005, 02:47	#12
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: airnet training Where to start with that one... !

July 19th, 2005, 05:00	#13
griffithvoice Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 16	Re: airnet training LOL Doug. I didn't mean that all companies are the same, far from it. Just that eventually getting a job in the industry feels so far off that I longingly look at the minimums all the time. LOL Steve P.S I keep forgetting that you guys are pretty quick witted around here.

July 19th, 2005, 10:52	#14
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: airnet training No, I was concerned with the statement that they had a flow thru with US Air.

July 19th, 2005, 11:10	#15
A300Capt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 709	Re: airnet training [ QUOTE ] No, I was concerned with the statement that they had a flow thru with US Air [/ QUOTE ] Exactly where on the current USAir furlough list will that put them?!?

July 19th, 2005, 15:55	#16
CaptChris Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 549	Re: airnet training [ QUOTE ] Hey guys, Sorry I could have sworn that they had some soft of informal arrangement with USAIR whereby they gave you a letter of Rec and usair guaranteed an interview. But I've just gone back through airnets website and cant find it anywhere so its likely ive got them mixed up with another freight company. I look at so many of these recruitment sites these days that after a while they all start to look the same cheers steve [/ QUOTE ] I don't think there is anyone in the WORLD right now with a flowthrough agreement with USAir....

July 19th, 2005, 17:24	#17
griffithvoice Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 16	Re: airnet training Ok I went searching and found what i was looking for: [ QUOTE ] ALPC: What does the new hiring alliance with USA Jet in Michigan entail? Washka: We’ve established a hiring alliance that allows our pilots who would like to move forward with their careers to start out at AirNet for 24 months to build the hours they need to apply to USA Jet, and based just on a recommendation from our flight department, they can do a face-to-face interview with USA Jet. If the interview goes well, they can go straight to USA Jet’s training without going through its initial application process. We know some pilots like to fly bigger planes, so USA Jet’s DC-9s are a good step up, and they’re a Part 121 carrier, and our pilots who eventually want to fly for the major airlines know they need that experience. We may have other avenues to progress available soon, too, but this one with USA Jet is our first official agreement. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.airapps.com/articles/AirNetDec99/airnet.html So it seems that it's USA Jet not US Airways. Sorry for the confusion guys but at least its cleared up now. Caveat:That article is quite old, from Dec 99. Cheers Steve

July 19th, 2005, 17:35	#18
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: airnet training Even if it is still in place, USA Jet isn't doing so well at the moment. They're not hiring or even interviewing, and would've recently furloughed, except all of their pilots took a paycut instead... much to their dismay.

July 20th, 2005, 02:05	#19
Callous Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 356	Re: airnet training [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hey guys, Sorry I could have sworn that they had some soft of informal arrangement with USAIR whereby they gave you a letter of Rec and usair guaranteed an interview. But I've just gone back through airnets website and cant find it anywhere so its likely ive got them mixed up with another freight company. I look at so many of these recruitment sites these days that after a while they all start to look the same cheers steve [/ QUOTE ] I don't think there is anyone in the WORLD right now with a flowthrough agreement with USAir.... [/ QUOTE ] I'm just wondering whether or not US Air will use it's flowback agreement with Greyhound if the HP merger doesn't work out.

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