Does Flight Safety have an ILS system

[Sid]

Hi,

Does FSA have an ILS system at their airport so we can practice ILS let downs?

Sid.

[NickH]

No, but there's one at Ft Pierce just a few miles to the south.

[bLizZuE]

^^

[Crockrocket94]

and at MLB

[Sid]

Ok thanks . Another thing, are ILS taught in the CPL curriculum? Where is MLB?

Just for the background, I'm from India and am considering FSA for my ab initio to CPL training. I'm debating between going to Aerospace Aviation in Sydney and FSA. I've never heard of a school where we can practice ILS approaches but if I can practice that around FSA, it would be an advantage I guess later.

Thanks for all your replies.

Sid.

[launchpad]

Originally Posted by Sid

Ok thanks . Another thing, are ILS taught in the CPL curriculum? Where is MLB?

Just for the background, I'm from India and am considering FSA for my ab initio to CPL training. I'm debating between going to Aerospace Aviation in Sydney and FSA. I've never heard of a school where we can practice ILS approaches but if I can practice that around FSA, it would be an advantage I guess later.

Thanks for all your replies.

Sid.

The ILS approach is one of the main components of the instrument rating. Regardless of which school you attend, you will practice many ILS approaches. The only difference would be the cost (I don't know how the Australian airspace system works). If they charge user fees for each approach, you'll end up spending a lot of money for those practice approaches....in the U.S. it's essentially free, so the training costs may be a lot less.

if you're starting with zero time at FSA, you'll start working on instrument approaches in the 4th phase of training...approximately 7 months into the program. MLB is Melbourne, Florida....about 30 miles north of Vero Beach. Fort Pierce is about 10 miles south of Vero Beach. Titusville is about 50 miles north of Vero Beach, and is another favorite airport for ILS approaches.

[Crockrocket94]

Well said.

[bike21]

Oh jeez....I did that ILS 9 @ FPR so many times, I think I still have it memorized

[launchpad]

Originally Posted by bike21

Oh jeez....I did that ILS 9 @ FPR so many times, I think I still have it memorized

Ya, I have nightmares of the ILS 36 at titusville.....looking back in my logbook, I stopped counting at 150...........

[Crockrocket94]

and our personal favorite... 7 DME ARC 11R VOR approach

How many times have you requested the arc? haha

[Sid]

Hi Launchpad,

Well the Instrument Rating after 7 months is a bit slow right? I want to do the 2 year program and would like to have all the ratings completed in 12 months so I can start instructing the following year.

Is it possible to fly everyday as long as the weather is good because I'm guessing with so many planes that FSA has and of course with their excellent program, I should be able to finish the two year program with ease.

I'm trying to compare with Aerospace Aviation, Sydney where I heard someone just had 83 hourse toward her CPL in 9 months!! I guess with thei 20 airplanes and 150 students, it's inevitable that I would end up flying on alternate days or once in 3 days at best. With so much of time wasted, FSA sounds better where I even come out with more hours!

Sid.

[Crockrocket94]

I finished from PPL to CFII in 1 year and 1 month, with 2 months off in the middle. It is definitly in the range.

And yeah, the weather is really good but you still get your IFR days.

with 80 some planes you fly almost everyday

[launchpad]

Originally Posted by Sid

Hi Launchpad,

Well the Instrument Rating after 7 months is a bit slow right? I want to do the 2 year program and would like to have all the ratings completed in 12 months so I can start instructing the following year.

Is it possible to fly everyday as long as the weather is good because I'm guessing with so many planes that FSA has and of course with their excellent program, I should be able to finish the two year program with ease.

I'm trying to compare with Aerospace Aviation, Sydney where I heard someone just had 83 hourse toward her CPL in 9 months!! I guess with thei 20 airplanes and 150 students, it's inevitable that I would end up flying on alternate days or once in 3 days at best. With so much of time wasted, FSA sounds better where I even come out with more hours!

Sid.

No, the instrument portion of FSI's course is near the end of the program. I believe they design it as a 10 month program if everything goes right and you don't have to do any lessons twice. 12 months is entirely possible if your performance is up to par and you do a training activity 5 days a week (not necessarily flying, but ground school, simulators, etc. etc.)

One word of caution, though. Flying every day is possible at FSI, and is very ambitious of you. However, you will come to a point in your training where you are worn out and just can't progress normally (you might even hit this point several times). Taking a few days off can help "reset" your brain and help you continue. When I instructed there, I had many students who wanted to fly every day, and sometimes twice a day. Some were able to handle it and get the program done in a very short time. Some were not, and had troubles because they didn't want to accept the fact that they needed a break. I personally would plan 10% extra time to whatever their program says it will take. That will keep your goals in line with reality.

FSI is very supportive and encourages you to do your training as fast or as slow as you need to. Remember that the syllabus has other activities such as ground lessons and simulator lessons mixed in with the flying. So even if you're not flying an airplane one day, you're still progressing in the course. You can also do some of these non-flying activities back to back in one day if your instructor has the time. I.E. two simulator lessons in one day in addition to a ground session..........as long as you don't burn out, you can put yourself on track to finish early......

edit:.. at 9 months in the FSI program, you should have well over 100 hours...If I remember correctly, you graduate the program with 160 or so hours.....

[pavelump]

Originally Posted by Crockrocket94

and our personal favorite... 7 DME ARC 11R VOR approach

How many times have you requested the arc? haha

don't you mean the vwee O R won won white?

[Crockrocket94]

Haha!

Most of the time, yes

[Sid]

That sounds great . I will be considering FSA for sure. Thanks for the replies.

Sid.

[TP_Express]

I wouldn't use an ILS as a decision factor on whether or not to choose a school. Go amd visit all the schools you plan on going, nothing is better than first hand knowledge thats what i did.
I believe the decision for an airport to have an ILS is made by the owner of the airport, in the case of VRB its owned by the city. From what i have seen, Floridians don't like GA traffic and ILS would mean more traffic at VRB. Plus the ILS cost money and not exactly chump change.

[bLizZuE]

I'd like to see a WAAS approach certified, and our GNS430s upgraded.