Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA

aerochop · January 13th, 2003, 21:44

Hey Guys,

I just wanted to know if any current FSI instructors could give me some insight into the instructors program. How does the waiting list to become an instructor work and when you do become an instructor, what is the pay and hours like.

Also, i am planning to visit FSA this comming Thursday. Based on your experience at FSA, is there anything that I should ask to see or any questions that I should ask that you think will cut through the recruiting BS and show what kind of school it is.

Thanks,

Aerochop

aerochop · January 13th, 2003, 21:49

One other thing. As I am reading in the forum, I hear of people becoming check pilots at FSA. How do you go about doing this? Could a current or former check pilot or CFI shed light on this as well.

Thanks,

Aerochop.

chunk75 · January 13th, 2003, 23:25

Yes, there is a significant wait list right now, but this is aviation and you never know what's going to happen (for better or for worse.) Just train to be the best you can be, network, and always be on the lookout and that's all you can do. You can't change the market. That being said, this is a great place to instruct. Competitive pay, bennies, multi time, networking opportunities, etc etc etc

Chunk

TrcB777 · January 14th, 2003, 09:02

Ok, Getting on the CFI wait list is the hard part. It starts with the (1). The CFI check ride, (2) Then two formal interviews with the top brass. (Business attire required) (3). The biggest factor in the hiring/wait list process...The presentation!?!...Your given a topic 24hrs in advance, then you give the presentation to the 4 or 5 who run flight safety. The presentation is followed by a question and answer period. (Thats where the problems happen). If all goes well, you'll get a call of congratulations. Now its time to get ready for your sim evaluation in the frasca so they can see your instrument skills. Youre given 5 hrs of free time in the frasca to practice. (Youll need them all) Pass the sim ride and youre on the wait list. (Conditional employment)

Time for the CFI-I. Now you get the employees discount (40% OFF) Thats nice. Then you leave Vero Beach and flight safety and go and look for a job, waiting for the call..When FSI calls, youll came back and go through standardization. Once stand. Is done, now your hired as a flight instructor and will sign a 800 hour contract and will be reimbursed for you CFII and a free MEI. Pay is 14/hr and full benefits. The number of hours depends on many factors. The number of students, the step of training the student is in, and the number of instructors. The hard part is getting on the wait list Check pilots sign another 800hr contract...i think

jlo · January 14th, 2003, 10:20

I do not believe that checkpilots sign another 800 hour contract. I think it is based on seniority and if that senior instructor wants to do it. Same thing to be a group leader, I suppose. I do not know anyone that would want to extend their stay in Vero longer than they have to.

The real question everyone should be asking is how to become a Spin INstructor!

pure_IMC · January 14th, 2003, 13:28

The real question everyone should be asking is how to become a Spin INstructor!

Go get checked out with another instructor in an airplane approved for spins.

rausda27 · January 14th, 2003, 19:04

I believe JLo was referring on how to become a Zlin Spin Instructor at FSI, just to clarify.

chunk75 · January 14th, 2003, 19:38

All of the CFI poolies treading water should hang on....I hear something big is coming. From good sources...

Developing.... (as Drudge says)

Chunk

cime_sp · January 14th, 2003, 20:25

Do tell....PM me if you would like

pavelump · January 14th, 2003, 22:18

[ QUOTE ]
I believe JLo was referring on how to become a Zlin Spin Instructor at FSI, just to clarify.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah, if they could only get another engine on that somehow (for multi time) i'd be on that like stink on a mule.

Dave

Tbone · January 15th, 2003, 10:16

Chunk - are you referring to the internship program? We just got a schpiel about it in ground school. Sposed to be ramping up soon. Sounds like a great deal, and a chance to thin out the pool a little bit.

pavelump · January 15th, 2003, 10:19

[ QUOTE ]
Chunk - are you referring to the internship program? We just got a schpiel about it in ground school. Sposed to be ramping up soon. Sounds like a great deal, and a chance to thin out the pool a little bit.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cool, we get interns now? Get me some coffee and preflight that plane! Ha! j/k

Dave

sofakingbad · January 15th, 2003, 10:49

The way I heard it...A company sends a guy to FS to get a type rating in a king air or something. Since its only him, FS can toss in a warm body to fill the other seat and allow that person to log SIC sim time. Whether this will actually empty the pool or simply move the fish to another tank remains to be seen.

aviator · January 15th, 2003, 11:55

What I have heard is that they will be offering the opportunity to inter at other FlightSafety centers. These are the places where FSI does it's contract simulator training (really the mainstay of thier business). The details haven't been ironed out yet but it sounds as if high time instructors go it will involve actually participating in training and teaching maybe the possibilty of earning type ratings in the process. If the internship involves more administrative duties these would be offered to poolies on the CFI list.
I don't think any thing is set in stone, once again this info is hersay and conjecture.

cime_sp · January 15th, 2003, 16:14

Please share what was said in ground school. Some of us FSI'rs did not have the pleasure of the visit in the CRM class.

Feel free to PM me if you don't want to spread hearsay.

January 13th, 2003, 21:44	#1
aerochop Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4	Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA Hey Guys, I just wanted to know if any current FSI instructors could give me some insight into the instructors program. How does the waiting list to become an instructor work and when you do become an instructor, what is the pay and hours like. Also, i am planning to visit FSA this comming Thursday. Based on your experience at FSA, is there anything that I should ask to see or any questions that I should ask that you think will cut through the recruiting BS and show what kind of school it is. Thanks, Aerochop

January 13th, 2003, 21:49	#2
aerochop Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA One other thing. As I am reading in the forum, I hear of people becoming check pilots at FSA. How do you go about doing this? Could a current or former check pilot or CFI shed light on this as well. Thanks, Aerochop.

January 13th, 2003, 23:25	#3
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA Yes, there is a significant wait list right now, but this is aviation and you never know what's going to happen (for better or for worse.) Just train to be the best you can be, network, and always be on the lookout and that's all you can do. You can't change the market. That being said, this is a great place to instruct. Competitive pay, bennies, multi time, networking opportunities, etc etc etc Chunk

January 14th, 2003, 09:02	#4
TrcB777 Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hubbard Ohio Posts: 47	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA Ok, Getting on the CFI wait list is the hard part. It starts with the (1). The CFI check ride, (2) Then two formal interviews with the top brass. (Business attire required) (3). The biggest factor in the hiring/wait list process...The presentation!?!...Your given a topic 24hrs in advance, then you give the presentation to the 4 or 5 who run flight safety. The presentation is followed by a question and answer period. (Thats where the problems happen). If all goes well, you'll get a call of congratulations. Now its time to get ready for your sim evaluation in the frasca so they can see your instrument skills. Youre given 5 hrs of free time in the frasca to practice. (Youll need them all) Pass the sim ride and youre on the wait list. (Conditional employment) Time for the CFI-I. Now you get the employees discount (40% OFF) Thats nice. Then you leave Vero Beach and flight safety and go and look for a job, waiting for the call..When FSI calls, youll came back and go through standardization. Once stand. Is done, now your hired as a flight instructor and will sign a 800 hour contract and will be reimbursed for you CFII and a free MEI. Pay is 14/hr and full benefits. The number of hours depends on many factors. The number of students, the step of training the student is in, and the number of instructors. The hard part is getting on the wait list Check pilots sign another 800hr contract...i think

January 14th, 2003, 10:20	#5
jlo Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 42	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA I do not believe that checkpilots sign another 800 hour contract. I think it is based on seniority and if that senior instructor wants to do it. Same thing to be a group leader, I suppose. I do not know anyone that would want to extend their stay in Vero longer than they have to. The real question everyone should be asking is how to become a Spin INstructor!

January 14th, 2003, 13:28	#6
pure_IMC Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 181	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA The real question everyone should be asking is how to become a Spin INstructor! Go get checked out with another instructor in an airplane approved for spins.

January 14th, 2003, 19:04	#7
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,253	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA I believe JLo was referring on how to become a Zlin Spin Instructor at FSI, just to clarify.

January 14th, 2003, 19:38	#8
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA All of the CFI poolies treading water should hang on....I hear something big is coming. From good sources... Developing.... (as Drudge says) Chunk

January 14th, 2003, 20:25	#9
cime_sp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 781	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA Do tell....PM me if you would like

January 14th, 2003, 22:18	#10
pavelump Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 790	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA [ QUOTE ] I believe JLo was referring on how to become a Zlin Spin Instructor at FSI, just to clarify. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, if they could only get another engine on that somehow (for multi time) i'd be on that like stink on a mule. Dave

January 15th, 2003, 10:16	#11
Tbone Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 76	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA Chunk - are you referring to the internship program? We just got a schpiel about it in ground school. Sposed to be ramping up soon. Sounds like a great deal, and a chance to thin out the pool a little bit.

January 15th, 2003, 10:19	#12
pavelump Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 790	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA [ QUOTE ] Chunk - are you referring to the internship program? We just got a schpiel about it in ground school. Sposed to be ramping up soon. Sounds like a great deal, and a chance to thin out the pool a little bit. [/ QUOTE ] Cool, we get interns now? Get me some coffee and preflight that plane! Ha! j/k Dave

January 15th, 2003, 10:49	#13
sofakingbad Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 14	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA The way I heard it...A company sends a guy to FS to get a type rating in a king air or something. Since its only him, FS can toss in a warm body to fill the other seat and allow that person to log SIC sim time. Whether this will actually empty the pool or simply move the fish to another tank remains to be seen.

January 15th, 2003, 11:55	#14
aviator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 385	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA What I have heard is that they will be offering the opportunity to inter at other FlightSafety centers. These are the places where FSI does it's contract simulator training (really the mainstay of thier business). The details haven't been ironed out yet but it sounds as if high time instructors go it will involve actually participating in training and teaching maybe the possibilty of earning type ratings in the process. If the internship involves more administrative duties these would be offered to poolies on the CFI list. I don't think any thing is set in stone, once again this info is hersay and conjecture.

January 15th, 2003, 16:14	#15
cime_sp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 781	Re: Flight Instructor Waiting List at FSA Please share what was said in ground school. Some of us FSI'rs did not have the pleasure of the visit in the CRM class. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to spread hearsay.

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