What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ???

CLR4ILS · August 10th, 2005, 02:00

A picture gallery on the website would be a nice addition to the video. I have about 100 pics. I would post them here if I knew how.

BTW....do not ask me to email pics, I am still on dial up. I know, but I am cheap when it comes to that stuff.

ILS

rausda27 · August 10th, 2005, 10:25

THey should update that website more often or get a new one. I have seen the same faces on "whos news" for almost 2 years now.

CLR4ILS · August 10th, 2005, 19:45

An update of the site is much needed. How about some other stuff also like:

Student email

Photo gallery of the facilities and aircraft

Photo gallery of the students on the flight line, ground school, in the ERJ SIM etc. (student life)

definately a more frequent change of the home page on the site.

IP of the month

More information about the airlines in the direct track (links to web site and links to route maps, junior bases etc.)

Employment opportunities

A live feed of the Vero tower on a link button

Pictures and breakdown of our Chief Pilot, Assistant Cheif, ground instructors etc. with their back ground and experience

*****lesson plan of the month - could be on a maneuver, VOR facilities, holding etc. Have senior instructors and check airmen get involved

Press center updated monthly that talks about new contracts, sims, etc at the academy

A links page that students can go to for educational aviation sites, WX sites, FREE approach plate sites etc.

What about incorporating "Flight Tracker" into the aircraft and making it veiwable on the site

A "congrats" page that shows recent and past graduates and who they have recently been hired with (of course it would be helpful if the students kept the academy up to date as well)

A look into the aircraft of the direct track airlines that show performance data, pictures of the panel etc.

Why doesn't FSA have a flying team? It would be nice for the instructors to have an extra curricular activity and to be able to represent the school they work for.

Anyway, just some thoughts on what I think would not only help market the school but also make the students and instructors feel like they are involved and a part of something a whole lot bigger.

Any other suggestions feel free....ILS

DE727UPS · August 11th, 2005, 02:00

"An update of the site is much needed. How about some other stuff also like:"

A link to Jetcareers

FlyingDawg · August 11th, 2005, 08:48

A new web site is in the works. FSA hired a new agency to do the web site. They came to FSA and conducted interviews with the students to find out what we would like to see in the web site, why we chose FSA and a bunch of other questions. It sounds like they are putting allot of research and thought into their new advertising.

DE727UPS · August 11th, 2005, 23:52

Tell the web site developers to NOT make it like DCA, PanAm, or CAPT. I never thought FSA's website and marketing claims came close to those places. Hope it stays that way.

Doug Taylor · August 11th, 2005, 23:56

...and a link to Jetcareers.com!

Jacqueline promised me one, but it hasn't showed up in a few years.

rausda27 · August 12th, 2005, 00:09

It used to be on the website..on a links page hidden somwhere deep in the website, this was several years ago when i was a student there.

CLR4ILS · August 13th, 2005, 01:02

[ QUOTE ]
Tell the web site developers to NOT make it like DCA, PanAm, or CAPT. I never thought FSA's website and marketing claims came close to those places. Hope it stays that way.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ladies and Gents....I never once thought I would say this but.......I think DE727 just gave Flight Safety, an "academy" of all things, a compliment...

DE727, we always knew somewhere deep down inside you had a soft spot for "good", no..."great" academy schools like FSA.

We almost love you man.....

One more compliment and we'll take you flying...

ILS

DE727UPS · August 13th, 2005, 02:08

'One more compliment and we'll take you flying...'

Ummmm. If you look at DCA, CAPT, and PanAm, I find FSA's website to be most accurate.

Disclaimer: I don't believe 300 hour pilots, FSA trained or not, should be in the right seat of a jet.

Is that good enough?

CLR4ILS · August 13th, 2005, 20:32

[ QUOTE ]
Disclaimer: I don't believe 300 hour pilots, FSA trained or not, should be in the right seat of a jet.

Is that good enough?

[/ QUOTE ]

Whole other post BUT......since you brought it up.

I'll take a well trained 300-500 hour pilot over a ###### 1200-1500 pilot that meets the "normal" mins any day...

I sure am glad we all have the right to our own opinions on this site

...

ILS

bLizZuE · August 15th, 2005, 02:13

[ QUOTE ]

Disclaimer: I don't believe 300 hour pilots, FSA trained or not, should be in the right seat of a jet.

[/ QUOTE ]

You don't have to believe.

DE727UPS · August 15th, 2005, 02:46

"You don't have to believe."

You're right, it's never gonna be my problem as I will never have to experience a 300 hour wonder as a Captain at my airline. I just see it as an embarrasment to the industry that this sort of thing happens.

cime_sp · August 15th, 2005, 16:20

Such a close-minded approach must be an incredible benefit to you and your crew from a CRM prespective....I'm impressed. If this is the attitude of all "experienced, well-rounded, and seasoned professionals" who paid their dues and struggled to their current positions the future of aviation has a lot to look forward to.

Snow · August 15th, 2005, 16:30

I will have to say that I felt a little behind the 8 ball flying right seat in the Ciation for the first time. I haven't looked at an FAA enroute chart since my Instrument FAA writen test. (or any kind of enroute chart really since my CFII checkride 6mo ago.) Plus I'm used to figureing out where I'm going on a map, writing down info on a flight planner before I get in the airplane. Now it's like, ok go pickup the clearance, and then figure out where all those intersections are as we're taxing out, yikes. I will have to say there's somthing to be said about real world experence, plus how people train and how they actually fly in the real world are a little different I've found.

DE727UPS · August 16th, 2005, 02:43

"and then figure out where all those intersections are as we're taxing out"

Wait until your enroute over the East China Sea and Fukukoa control gives you a reroute. You can barely understand what they are saying, even when they spell it out. Then, you gotta figure out where those places are on the chart.

"how people train and how they actually fly in the real world are a little different I've found"

Truer words have never been spoken. Now see why I like pilots to have lots of real world experience outside the training enviornment before they move into the shiny jet?

MikeD · August 16th, 2005, 03:02

[ QUOTE ]
"and then figure out where all those intersections are as we're taxing out"

Wait until your enroute over the East China Sea and Fukukoa control gives you a reroute. You can barely understand what they are saying, even when they spell it out. Then, you gotta figure out where those places are on the chart.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL.....get that with Incheon Center right now, and that's when the frequency isn't congested! Just the other day, they gave me a reroute to a fix I didn't understand, so the controller read it phonetically. Never heard of the damn intersection, and am tooling along at .9M. So, go with option 2.....type the intersection name into the IRS, and see if it recognizes it. The IRS never heard of it either. Option 3, reference the HI chart sitting in my bag, but it's a pain trying to unfold and refold the thing in a single-seat cockpit. Try to ask ATC for an initial heading to the fix, but they're busy and not answering, so it's obvious I'm going to have to figure this one out on my own.....no CRM or CFI available. Scan around the area from my current position to my destination, and just happen to come across the fix. Now, insure I'm not tooling into any special use airspace that others are using, while taking a quick hack at an initial heading to the fix and get the jet headed that way, then look closer at the HI and refine the navigation.

Definitely alot more than the average CONUS training flight.

The few minutes prior, I'd been super-ahead of the aircraft and everything going on; in less than 10 seconds, I'm elbows around the cockpit trying to figure out one fix...........

[ QUOTE ]

"how people train and how they actually fly in the real world are a little different I've found"

Truer words have never been spoken. Now see why I like pilots to have lots of real world experience outside the training enviornment before they move into the shiny jet?

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree.

CLR4ILS · September 15th, 2005, 18:00

When was the new website going online? I thought September.

ILS

n2o2diver · September 27th, 2005, 23:15

The New FSA Website is online!

I haven't had a chance to check it out yet myself, just wondering if anyone else has and what they thought about it.

747Heavy · September 28th, 2005, 06:09

Very Impressed, certainly much better than the old one. I especially like the different videos they have on there.

CLR4ILS · September 28th, 2005, 14:41

Nice job Jackie, Jay, and Tonya.....

I like the videos, tip of the month, and overall information.

A few more suggestions...

I noticed the IFR refresher is now in the cadet. What about the Seminole option and pricing. Maybe a breakdown of both the single and twin for all refresher programs. Some people need twin time.

What about a 50 hour or 100 hour block of twin time incorporated into the IFR refresher for those that need twin time and could use the advanced instrument experience before getting the resume out? Of course, a discount for buying block time....

Photo gallery (stills) would still be a nice addition. Basically, a still photo tour of the academy from the academic building, to the library, to the SIM bay, to the pilot shop, to the cafe, through the dorms, past the pool, and on out to the flight line and MX hanger.

I noticed that in the "in our hanger" box that pictures of "our A/C" were not used. General pictures of the cadet, Seminole etc were used. I think A/C with our paint scheme represent the academy better.

Pictures of the ERJ, SAAB, and Citation SIMS inside and out in the "our equipment" section?

Is there any way to enlarge the videos and still have good resolution?

Route maps, junior bases, and A/C of the direct track partners would be nice for the potential students to look at. How about that "West Coast Direct Track Partner" there Mr. Elder (insert smiley here Doug).....

I like the links in the "things you should know" section and I am certain that Doug likes it also.... What about other links with general info like WX, IAP/charts etc...?

Just some suggestions.... I like to look at the website through the eyes of a new pre-private. What would they want/need to see to give them a complete picture of what FSA has to offer.

I will post more suggestions as I think of them...

ILS

CLR4ILS · September 28th, 2005, 14:45

Next post............Magazine ads

rausda27 · September 28th, 2005, 17:46

Does anyone at marketing know what happened to the documentary on flight training that was filmed last year? I was hoping to get a copy as they filmed one of my training flights.

rausda27 · April 18th, 2006, 22:20

Anyone know about that video?

CLR4ILS · May 28th, 2006, 15:07

Update......

The magazine ads are definatley getting better. I saw the ERJ simulator "to be the best you must train with the best" ad. Good ad, and very true. Heres another suggestion....

What about a two page center fold ad that shows pictures of students in ground school, then pre-flighting an aircraft, then in the frasca, then to the zlin, and finally in the ERJ sim?

Pictures showing progression through the program with verbage explaining the program. People are visual. Show them what they want to see...

ILS

August 10th, 2005, 02:00	#1
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? A picture gallery on the website would be a nice addition to the video. I have about 100 pics. I would post them here if I knew how. BTW....do not ask me to email pics, I am still on dial up. I know, but I am cheap when it comes to that stuff. ILS

August 10th, 2005, 10:25	#2
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,275	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? THey should update that website more often or get a new one. I have seen the same faces on "whos news" for almost 2 years now.

August 10th, 2005, 19:45	#3
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? An update of the site is much needed. How about some other stuff also like: Student email Photo gallery of the facilities and aircraft Photo gallery of the students on the flight line, ground school, in the ERJ SIM etc. (student life) definately a more frequent change of the home page on the site. IP of the month More information about the airlines in the direct track (links to web site and links to route maps, junior bases etc.) Employment opportunities A live feed of the Vero tower on a link button Pictures and breakdown of our Chief Pilot, Assistant Cheif, ground instructors etc. with their back ground and experience *****lesson plan of the month - could be on a maneuver, VOR facilities, holding etc. Have senior instructors and check airmen get involved Press center updated monthly that talks about new contracts, sims, etc at the academy A links page that students can go to for educational aviation sites, WX sites, FREE approach plate sites etc. What about incorporating "Flight Tracker" into the aircraft and making it veiwable on the site A "congrats" page that shows recent and past graduates and who they have recently been hired with (of course it would be helpful if the students kept the academy up to date as well) A look into the aircraft of the direct track airlines that show performance data, pictures of the panel etc. Why doesn't FSA have a flying team? It would be nice for the instructors to have an extra curricular activity and to be able to represent the school they work for. Anyway, just some thoughts on what I think would not only help market the school but also make the students and instructors feel like they are involved and a part of something a whole lot bigger. Any other suggestions feel free....ILS

August 11th, 2005, 02:00	#4
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? "An update of the site is much needed. How about some other stuff also like:" A link to Jetcareers

August 11th, 2005, 08:48	#5
FlyingDawg Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? A new web site is in the works. FSA hired a new agency to do the web site. They came to FSA and conducted interviews with the students to find out what we would like to see in the web site, why we chose FSA and a bunch of other questions. It sounds like they are putting allot of research and thought into their new advertising.

August 11th, 2005, 23:52	#6
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? Tell the web site developers to NOT make it like DCA, PanAm, or CAPT. I never thought FSA's website and marketing claims came close to those places. Hope it stays that way.

August 11th, 2005, 23:56	#7
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,928 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? ...and a link to Jetcareers.com! Jacqueline promised me one, but it hasn't showed up in a few years.

August 12th, 2005, 00:09	#8
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,275	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? It used to be on the website..on a links page hidden somwhere deep in the website, this was several years ago when i was a student there.

August 13th, 2005, 01:02	#9
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? [ QUOTE ] Tell the web site developers to NOT make it like DCA, PanAm, or CAPT. I never thought FSA's website and marketing claims came close to those places. Hope it stays that way. [/ QUOTE ] Ladies and Gents....I never once thought I would say this but.......I think DE727 just gave Flight Safety, an "academy" of all things, a compliment... DE727, we always knew somewhere deep down inside you had a soft spot for "good", no..."great" academy schools like FSA. We almost love you man..... One more compliment and we'll take you flying... ILS

August 13th, 2005, 02:08	#10
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? 'One more compliment and we'll take you flying...' Ummmm. If you look at DCA, CAPT, and PanAm, I find FSA's website to be most accurate. Disclaimer: I don't believe 300 hour pilots, FSA trained or not, should be in the right seat of a jet. Is that good enough?

August 13th, 2005, 20:32	#11
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? [ QUOTE ] Disclaimer: I don't believe 300 hour pilots, FSA trained or not, should be in the right seat of a jet. Is that good enough? [/ QUOTE ] Whole other post BUT......since you brought it up. I'll take a well trained 300-500 hour pilot over a ###### 1200-1500 pilot that meets the "normal" mins any day... I sure am glad we all have the right to our own opinions on this site ... ILS

August 15th, 2005, 02:13	#12
bLizZuE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 1,216	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? [ QUOTE ] Disclaimer: I don't believe 300 hour pilots, FSA trained or not, should be in the right seat of a jet. [/ QUOTE ] You don't have to believe.

August 15th, 2005, 02:46	#13
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? "You don't have to believe." You're right, it's never gonna be my problem as I will never have to experience a 300 hour wonder as a Captain at my airline. I just see it as an embarrasment to the industry that this sort of thing happens.

August 15th, 2005, 16:20	#14
cime_sp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 782	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? Such a close-minded approach must be an incredible benefit to you and your crew from a CRM prespective....I'm impressed. If this is the attitude of all "experienced, well-rounded, and seasoned professionals" who paid their dues and struggled to their current positions the future of aviation has a lot to look forward to.

August 15th, 2005, 16:30	#15
Snow Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 870	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? I will have to say that I felt a little behind the 8 ball flying right seat in the Ciation for the first time. I haven't looked at an FAA enroute chart since my Instrument FAA writen test. (or any kind of enroute chart really since my CFII checkride 6mo ago.) Plus I'm used to figureing out where I'm going on a map, writing down info on a flight planner before I get in the airplane. Now it's like, ok go pickup the clearance, and then figure out where all those intersections are as we're taxing out, yikes. I will have to say there's somthing to be said about real world experence, plus how people train and how they actually fly in the real world are a little different I've found.

August 16th, 2005, 02:43	#16
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? "and then figure out where all those intersections are as we're taxing out" Wait until your enroute over the East China Sea and Fukukoa control gives you a reroute. You can barely understand what they are saying, even when they spell it out. Then, you gotta figure out where those places are on the chart. "how people train and how they actually fly in the real world are a little different I've found" Truer words have never been spoken. Now see why I like pilots to have lots of real world experience outside the training enviornment before they move into the shiny jet?

August 16th, 2005, 03:02	#17
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? [ QUOTE ] "and then figure out where all those intersections are as we're taxing out" Wait until your enroute over the East China Sea and Fukukoa control gives you a reroute. You can barely understand what they are saying, even when they spell it out. Then, you gotta figure out where those places are on the chart. [/ QUOTE ] LOL.....get that with Incheon Center right now, and that's when the frequency isn't congested! Just the other day, they gave me a reroute to a fix I didn't understand, so the controller read it phonetically. Never heard of the damn intersection, and am tooling along at .9M. So, go with option 2.....type the intersection name into the IRS, and see if it recognizes it. The IRS never heard of it either. Option 3, reference the HI chart sitting in my bag, but it's a pain trying to unfold and refold the thing in a single-seat cockpit. Try to ask ATC for an initial heading to the fix, but they're busy and not answering, so it's obvious I'm going to have to figure this one out on my own.....no CRM or CFI available. Scan around the area from my current position to my destination, and just happen to come across the fix. Now, insure I'm not tooling into any special use airspace that others are using, while taking a quick hack at an initial heading to the fix and get the jet headed that way, then look closer at the HI and refine the navigation. Definitely alot more than the average CONUS training flight. The few minutes prior, I'd been super-ahead of the aircraft and everything going on; in less than 10 seconds, I'm elbows around the cockpit trying to figure out one fix........... [ QUOTE ] "how people train and how they actually fly in the real world are a little different I've found" Truer words have never been spoken. Now see why I like pilots to have lots of real world experience outside the training enviornment before they move into the shiny jet? [/ QUOTE ] Agree.

September 15th, 2005, 18:00	#18
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? When was the new website going online? I thought September. ILS

September 27th, 2005, 23:15	#19
n2o2diver Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Livin the Dream Posts: 220	New Website The New FSA Website is online! I haven't had a chance to check it out yet myself, just wondering if anyone else has and what they thought about it. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin

September 28th, 2005, 06:09	#20
747Heavy Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 35	Very Impressed, certainly much better than the old one. I especially like the different videos they have on there.

September 28th, 2005, 14:41	#21
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Nice job Jackie, Jay, and Tonya..... I like the videos, tip of the month, and overall information. A few more suggestions... I noticed the IFR refresher is now in the cadet. What about the Seminole option and pricing. Maybe a breakdown of both the single and twin for all refresher programs. Some people need twin time. What about a 50 hour or 100 hour block of twin time incorporated into the IFR refresher for those that need twin time and could use the advanced instrument experience before getting the resume out? Of course, a discount for buying block time.... Photo gallery (stills) would still be a nice addition. Basically, a still photo tour of the academy from the academic building, to the library, to the SIM bay, to the pilot shop, to the cafe, through the dorms, past the pool, and on out to the flight line and MX hanger. I noticed that in the "in our hanger" box that pictures of "our A/C" were not used. General pictures of the cadet, Seminole etc were used. I think A/C with our paint scheme represent the academy better. Pictures of the ERJ, SAAB, and Citation SIMS inside and out in the "our equipment" section? Is there any way to enlarge the videos and still have good resolution? Route maps, junior bases, and A/C of the direct track partners would be nice for the potential students to look at. How about that "West Coast Direct Track Partner" there Mr. Elder (insert smiley here Doug)..... I like the links in the "things you should know" section and I am certain that Doug likes it also.... What about other links with general info like WX, IAP/charts etc...? Just some suggestions.... I like to look at the website through the eyes of a new pre-private. What would they want/need to see to give them a complete picture of what FSA has to offer. I will post more suggestions as I think of them... ILS __________________ Flight Safety CFI/CFII/MEI --------------------------------------------------- The best Safety device in any aircraft is a well trained pilot...

September 28th, 2005, 14:45	#22
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Next post............Magazine ads __________________ Flight Safety CFI/CFII/MEI --------------------------------------------------- The best Safety device in any aircraft is a well trained pilot...

September 28th, 2005, 17:46	#23
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,275	Does anyone at marketing know what happened to the documentary on flight training that was filmed last year? I was hoping to get a copy as they filmed one of my training flights.

April 18th, 2006, 22:20	#24
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,275	Anyone know about that video?

May 28th, 2006, 15:07	#25
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: What about a picture gallery on the FSA website ??? Update...... The magazine ads are definatley getting better. I saw the ERJ simulator "to be the best you must train with the best" ad. Good ad, and very true. Heres another suggestion.... What about a two page center fold ad that shows pictures of students in ground school, then pre-flighting an aircraft, then in the frasca, then to the zlin, and finally in the ERJ sim? Pictures showing progression through the program with verbage explaining the program. People are visual. Show them what they want to see... ILS __________________ Flight Safety CFI/CFII/MEI --------------------------------------------------- The best Safety device in any aircraft is a well trained pilot...

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