Nantucket Air Rumor

fsidude · November 3rd, 2002, 23:11

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Who is C.Miller?

http://www.ilsapproach.com/forum/v_f...i?review=33661

Just for those low time pilots out there who may have an intrest in Nantucket Airlines. Rumor has it that they are putting together a direct track program with Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, Florida. Once you complete the CIME program you can interview (as a 300+ hour pilot), throw down some training cash, and go to the right seat after training. This is only one of the programs that are in the works at Flight Safety. The ASA program is already back in semi-full swing at the academy. C. Miller

chunk75 · November 4th, 2002, 17:25

I haven't heard anything about this...It would definately be interesting. I hear it's a great company to work for!

Chunk

aviator · November 4th, 2002, 18:23

I haven't heard about it either but I'll ask at the instructor meeting tomorrow night and try and find out............

Seems a little fishy. Not really the star studded type of direct track program FSI usually goes for and it doesn't sound like they could use the SAAB 2000 for it. (someone has to pay the bills for that monster!)

kdwilkes · November 5th, 2002, 20:38

I saw a posting today for Cape Air coming to FSA on Saturday. The flyer indicated that the meeting is a recruitment meeting for instructors looking for jobs. It appears that FSA students are not invited. The flyer indicated that Cape Air would be hiring qualified instructors for pilot positions. There was no hint or indication that any type of direct track program would be starting with Cape Air.

CLR4ILS · November 5th, 2002, 21:00

The truth is that a reliable source at Flight Safety has said that Nantucket Air has approached FSA about putting together a direct track program. Will it happen? Who knows. The good thing is that Flight Safety marketing is working hard to put together some options for the students and instructors.

P.S. C.Miller is a righteous dude!

pavelump · November 5th, 2002, 21:41

Hey everybody, I'm finally in Vero and back online! (dialup unfortunately) At our orientation last Friday, they mentioned the Nantucket thing. Apparently, the person who is in charge of hiring is a FSI grad. I forget what the exact deal was but it's flying Cessna 402s in the Martha's Vinyard area during the Summer and then in St. Croix in the Winter. I saw a flyer up on the job listing board by classroom B. They were saying that it starts at 30k/year which ain't bad for building some multi time.

werd.
Dave

chunk75 · November 5th, 2002, 22:19

Did they refer to it as a potential opportunity for instructors or for a direct track type program for CIME grads?

Pavelump - Is your name a reference to a weapons system? Pave Penny, Pave Way, Pave Tack, Pave Low, Pave Hawk, etc. etc. etc.

Good Luck in your training...you'll love it here!

Pave Chunk

pscraig · November 5th, 2002, 22:37

Now I could deal with that for quite a while...summer in the Northeast, and winter in the Carribean, flying tourists around in 402s. And for some decent pay!

cime_sp · November 6th, 2002, 09:57

Flyers at the flight line say they are just looking for instructors.

CLR4ILS · November 6th, 2002, 17:32

From what I understand it may be a direct track. Cape Air will be at FSA this week or next to pick up some of our instructors. This is a good thing. CLR4ILS

aviator · November 6th, 2002, 22:24

The official info from managment was that at the moment they where coming to interview instructors. (they have not laid down any min. qualifactions as far as I know)
It did sound like they wanted only high time people- I'm not sure too many IPs in that position will jump ship for a 402.

It would be cool if they did interview CIME grads. St. Croix in the winter time? Could be worse.

pavelump · November 7th, 2002, 18:29

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
Pavelump - Is your name a reference to a weapons system? Pave Penny, Pave Way, Pave Tack, Pave Low, Pave Hawk, etc. etc. etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

no, if you flip the p's upside down, you get d's which is my name. dave lund (well sort of... just a stupid thing that I've had for a long time...) Can't say that I'm really that up on weapons systems.

later,
dave

chunk75 · November 7th, 2002, 18:47

ah! Just curious....

If there's a pave in the name, generally it's a cool system.

Chunk

PS--I thought you were x-USAF?

ThreeGreen123 · November 7th, 2002, 22:34

Leave a Seminole for a 402?? I don't think so!

chunk75 · November 8th, 2002, 03:51

You mean stop almost getting killed by students all day to fly scheduled 135 service (100% multi PIC...and gobs of it)) in real world weather....in somewhere besides Vero? I'd take it in a second if I were in the position!

Chunk

pscraig · November 8th, 2002, 08:07

Why not?

aviator · November 8th, 2002, 11:56

Because you could hang out here for a few more months and possible move into a 121 FO slot (turbine time) as opposed to a 135 piston job.
The 402 is a nice airplane and is a step up from the Seminole, but not much of a step.

Last time I checked VRB was in the real world.....................am I missing something?

pavelump · November 8th, 2002, 12:34

<blockquote>In reply to:<hr />
Last time I checked VRB was in the real world.....................am I missing something?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah... Ice.

Dave

chunk75 · November 8th, 2002, 13:44

Aviator...

What part of the country are you from? There is no weather here. T-storms, yes, but not much frontal action, no seasonal changes, and as pavelump pointed out, no ice. Nantucket is famous for fog and scud wx.

Chunk

ThreeGreen123 · November 8th, 2002, 22:33

Don't take me too serious ladies-I think I would give up a Sem. for a 402, esp. after hearing that presentation today. More then anything I think a job like that just sounds like flat out fun, nothing more. It would almost be worth passing on an airline job for a few years just to enjoy that kind of flying.

kdwilkes · November 9th, 2002, 00:36

What was said at the meeting? Give us the details! I did not go because I thought it was only for IPs.

ThreeGreen123 · November 9th, 2002, 09:32

Actually more then 1/2 the people there were SPs. In any case though, yeah it was an interesting presentation. I think the coolest thing about working for a company like that would just be the opportunity to be a pilot. You are the only pilot in the plane, you have 9 passengers, one of which sits next to you in the right seat. Can you imagine how good your stick would be after a yr up there? The company sounds nice to work for, you are home everynight, and your schedule is set, 5 days on 2 days off, no reserve. If you are lower seniority you are in NEngland all summer, and Caribbean in winter. They pay moving expenses and adjustments for cost of living b/ween their 3 bases. They have 2 groups of pilots, some that are there for a career, and some that are only there a year or 2. And they like having both. They pay by the hour, punch in and punch out, so its not by the flight hr in case you have weather/maint. issues. Make about 30K per year. They need 100 pilots on staff/year, and normally hire 40 every spring for people moving on. They have a few 135 mail operations where you don't need an ATP, but to fly the passengers of course you do (since you are the only pilot). There are a lot of customer relations, so you have to want to be around your passengers. After all they are all watching you. So anyway, I took away from it that it is a very good company to work for. They are partially employee owned, all the senior management works the line next to you, and they want pilots. From a career perpective I guess it could keep you away from the airlines for a yr or 2. But, on the other hand, you are getting 135/121 time, and you are PIC, which I think bodes well for the future. SIC gets you no-where fast. He said it is a great medium to move on to places like Execjet. In any case, I guess depending on your situation, it sounds like a fun way to spend a year or 2, especially if you don't have to live in a certain locality.

kdwilkes · November 9th, 2002, 09:40

Did anyone ask or mention what the hour requirements are for pilots and what they are looking for in applicants? Also, was there any mention of a direct track program with FlightSafety?

ThreeGreen123 · November 9th, 2002, 10:35

He mentioned they have a few slots for people to fly mail, I believe thats the 1200 hr 135 min. Most slots are for people with the ATP, which is the 1500. They don't hire SIC unless that person is close to an ATP (1400 hrs) and they need just a little more time for the checkride. No one asked about a direct track, but I assume obviously that it would not be like ASA, as they need ATPs (single pilot w/ passengers). He said they would like FSI IPs (since he does the hiring and went here), and he also was talking so some instructors up at Riddle. So maybe it will be a track where our higher time IPs can go if they choose. It sounds like a good gig, so I wouldn't imagine there would be no interest.

November 3rd, 2002, 23:11	#1
fsidude Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4	Nantucket Air Rumor Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Who is C.Miller? http://www.ilsapproach.com/forum/v_f...i?review=33661 Just for those low time pilots out there who may have an intrest in Nantucket Airlines. Rumor has it that they are putting together a direct track program with Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, Florida. Once you complete the CIME program you can interview (as a 300+ hour pilot), throw down some training cash, and go to the right seat after training. This is only one of the programs that are in the works at Flight Safety. The ASA program is already back in semi-full swing at the academy. C. Miller

November 4th, 2002, 17:25	#2
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor I haven't heard anything about this...It would definately be interesting. I hear it's a great company to work for! Chunk

November 4th, 2002, 18:23	#3
aviator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 385	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor I haven't heard about it either but I'll ask at the instructor meeting tomorrow night and try and find out............ Seems a little fishy. Not really the star studded type of direct track program FSI usually goes for and it doesn't sound like they could use the SAAB 2000 for it. (someone has to pay the bills for that monster!)

November 5th, 2002, 20:38	#4
kdwilkes Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 125	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor I saw a posting today for Cape Air coming to FSA on Saturday. The flyer indicated that the meeting is a recruitment meeting for instructors looking for jobs. It appears that FSA students are not invited. The flyer indicated that Cape Air would be hiring qualified instructors for pilot positions. There was no hint or indication that any type of direct track program would be starting with Cape Air.

November 5th, 2002, 21:00	#5
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor The truth is that a reliable source at Flight Safety has said that Nantucket Air has approached FSA about putting together a direct track program. Will it happen? Who knows. The good thing is that Flight Safety marketing is working hard to put together some options for the students and instructors. P.S. C.Miller is a righteous dude!

November 5th, 2002, 21:41	#6
pavelump Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 790	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Hey everybody, I'm finally in Vero and back online! (dialup unfortunately) At our orientation last Friday, they mentioned the Nantucket thing. Apparently, the person who is in charge of hiring is a FSI grad. I forget what the exact deal was but it's flying Cessna 402s in the Martha's Vinyard area during the Summer and then in St. Croix in the Winter. I saw a flyer up on the job listing board by classroom B. They were saying that it starts at 30k/year which ain't bad for building some multi time. werd. Dave

November 5th, 2002, 22:19	#7
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Did they refer to it as a potential opportunity for instructors or for a direct track type program for CIME grads? Pavelump - Is your name a reference to a weapons system? Pave Penny, Pave Way, Pave Tack, Pave Low, Pave Hawk, etc. etc. etc. Good Luck in your training...you'll love it here! Pave Chunk

November 5th, 2002, 22:37	#8
pscraig Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,021	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Now I could deal with that for quite a while...summer in the Northeast, and winter in the Carribean, flying tourists around in 402s. And for some decent pay!

November 6th, 2002, 09:57	#9
cime_sp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 782	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Flyers at the flight line say they are just looking for instructors.

November 6th, 2002, 17:32	#10
CLR4ILS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 581	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor From what I understand it may be a direct track. Cape Air will be at FSA this week or next to pick up some of our instructors. This is a good thing. CLR4ILS

November 6th, 2002, 22:24	#11
aviator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 385	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor The official info from managment was that at the moment they where coming to interview instructors. (they have not laid down any min. qualifactions as far as I know) It did sound like they wanted only high time people- I'm not sure too many IPs in that position will jump ship for a 402. It would be cool if they did interview CIME grads. St. Croix in the winter time? Could be worse.

November 7th, 2002, 18:29	#12
pavelump Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 790	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /> Pavelump - Is your name a reference to a weapons system? Pave Penny, Pave Way, Pave Tack, Pave Low, Pave Hawk, etc. etc. etc. [/ QUOTE ] no, if you flip the p's upside down, you get d's which is my name. dave lund (well sort of... just a stupid thing that I've had for a long time...) Can't say that I'm really that up on weapons systems. later, dave

November 7th, 2002, 18:47	#13
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor ah! Just curious.... If there's a pave in the name, generally it's a cool system. Chunk PS--I thought you were x-USAF?

November 7th, 2002, 22:34	#14
ThreeGreen123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: VRB FL USA Posts: 58	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Leave a Seminole for a 402?? I don't think so!

November 8th, 2002, 03:51	#15
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor You mean stop almost getting killed by students all day to fly scheduled 135 service (100% multi PIC...and gobs of it)) in real world weather....in somewhere besides Vero? I'd take it in a second if I were in the position! Chunk

November 8th, 2002, 08:07	#16
pscraig Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,021	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Why not?

November 8th, 2002, 11:56	#17
aviator Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 385	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Because you could hang out here for a few more months and possible move into a 121 FO slot (turbine time) as opposed to a 135 piston job. The 402 is a nice airplane and is a step up from the Seminole, but not much of a step. Last time I checked VRB was in the real world.....................am I missing something?

November 8th, 2002, 12:34	#18
pavelump Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 790	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor </font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr /> Last time I checked VRB was in the real world.....................am I missing something? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah... Ice. Dave

November 8th, 2002, 13:44	#19
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Aviator... What part of the country are you from? There is no weather here. T-storms, yes, but not much frontal action, no seasonal changes, and as pavelump pointed out, no ice. Nantucket is famous for fog and scud wx. Chunk

November 8th, 2002, 22:33	#20
ThreeGreen123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: VRB FL USA Posts: 58	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Don't take me too serious ladies-I think I would give up a Sem. for a 402, esp. after hearing that presentation today. More then anything I think a job like that just sounds like flat out fun, nothing more. It would almost be worth passing on an airline job for a few years just to enjoy that kind of flying.

November 9th, 2002, 00:36	#21
kdwilkes Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 125	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor What was said at the meeting? Give us the details! I did not go because I thought it was only for IPs.

November 9th, 2002, 09:32	#22
ThreeGreen123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: VRB FL USA Posts: 58	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Actually more then 1/2 the people there were SPs. In any case though, yeah it was an interesting presentation. I think the coolest thing about working for a company like that would just be the opportunity to be a pilot. You are the only pilot in the plane, you have 9 passengers, one of which sits next to you in the right seat. Can you imagine how good your stick would be after a yr up there? The company sounds nice to work for, you are home everynight, and your schedule is set, 5 days on 2 days off, no reserve. If you are lower seniority you are in NEngland all summer, and Caribbean in winter. They pay moving expenses and adjustments for cost of living b/ween their 3 bases. They have 2 groups of pilots, some that are there for a career, and some that are only there a year or 2. And they like having both. They pay by the hour, punch in and punch out, so its not by the flight hr in case you have weather/maint. issues. Make about 30K per year. They need 100 pilots on staff/year, and normally hire 40 every spring for people moving on. They have a few 135 mail operations where you don't need an ATP, but to fly the passengers of course you do (since you are the only pilot). There are a lot of customer relations, so you have to want to be around your passengers. After all they are all watching you. So anyway, I took away from it that it is a very good company to work for. They are partially employee owned, all the senior management works the line next to you, and they want pilots. From a career perpective I guess it could keep you away from the airlines for a yr or 2. But, on the other hand, you are getting 135/121 time, and you are PIC, which I think bodes well for the future. SIC gets you no-where fast. He said it is a great medium to move on to places like Execjet. In any case, I guess depending on your situation, it sounds like a fun way to spend a year or 2, especially if you don't have to live in a certain locality.

November 9th, 2002, 09:40	#23
kdwilkes Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 125	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor Did anyone ask or mention what the hour requirements are for pilots and what they are looking for in applicants? Also, was there any mention of a direct track program with FlightSafety?

November 9th, 2002, 10:35	#24
ThreeGreen123 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: VRB FL USA Posts: 58	Re: Nantucket Air Rumor He mentioned they have a few slots for people to fly mail, I believe thats the 1200 hr 135 min. Most slots are for people with the ATP, which is the 1500. They don't hire SIC unless that person is close to an ATP (1400 hrs) and they need just a little more time for the checkride. No one asked about a direct track, but I assume obviously that it would not be like ASA, as they need ATPs (single pilot w/ passengers). He said they would like FSI IPs (since he does the hiring and went here), and he also was talking so some instructors up at Riddle. So maybe it will be a track where our higher time IPs can go if they choose. It sounds like a good gig, so I wouldn't imagine there would be no interest.

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