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Old March 11th, 2010, 11:39   #1
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Exclamation So you're getting ready for standardization?

You're not quite sure what to expect when you meet that standardization pilot.

Let me give you some guidance.

Show up on time and prepared, with the materials required for a pre-flight briefing. Don't show up 5 minutes late, with no marker and nothing prepared on your white board.

This means you should probably have something already prepared on the white board that includes things like:
  • Title of discussion or presentation
  • A brief overview or description
  • Listed references for the student to use or refer to
  • A diagram or drawing depicting the manuever or topic
This discussion should be taught using the guided discussion method.
That means that you treat the standardization pilot as the student, not as a standardization pilot. Don't refer to the student in third person. "I would tell the student this" or "Now I would ask the student that."

Ask me those questions, tell me what you want to tell me, as your student. My job as a standardization pilot is to evaluate your ability to lead a discussion or briefing on a manuever. Show me you have that ability!

Avoid saying things like "bump power" or "pull back". We are taught to use very specific instructions with the students, and it is heavily emphasized. "Add 100 RPM" or "Increase pitch 1 degree on the horizon" are phrases you need to be comfortable with. Generalized statements tend to lead to students overcontrolling and making erratic inputs.

Throughout the entire standardization event you should act and conduct yourself as the instructor. If you don't know things, tell me you can look it up. Admitting errors is OK, but saying "I don't know" isn't. The student needs to know it's ok to not know everything, but should also understand that there is always someplace to find information.

You must have instructional knowledge of the aircraft! We need to ensure you're going to teach a student the basics of the airframe and systems of the aircraft. These are things we look for on stage checks, and they start with the students primary instructor! Just to name a few:
  • What kind of flaps do we have? What benefit do they provide?
  • What kind of ailerons do we have? What design characteristic do they have that is beneficial?
  • What does the stall strip do?
  • How much fuel is in this fuel tank? How much is unusable? How much fuel is at the tab?
  • Tire inflation numbers, and strut extention tolerance limits.
  • How the Piper External Power plug works
  • Show me the Vacuum pump. How do you know if it stops working? What instruments will stop functioning?
  • Be able to identify basic components of the engine, and what their function is
  • The Piper Pitot/Static system is pretty unique; be sure you understand the design of the mast , and what happens when the various ports become blocked.
You will hear a lot, this is not a checkride. It truly isn't. However, it is an evaluation of your instructional knowledge of the aircraft, and the topics to be covered from pre-solo to single engine commercial applicants. This will probably require some studying and practice on your behalf. Especially the procedures and specific techniques that they require you to use. I'm sure that everything we teach here is taught at least slightly different than what you're use to.

Got questions? Lets start the learning process.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 20:57   #2
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm not in this standards class but deferred to the next one so I definitely appreciate any tips.
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Thanks for the info, i did a practice presentation tonight... it was a little rusty. By now i think i have refined it to perfection. go 8's on pylons
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Old March 11th, 2010, 22:48   #4
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Nice writeup!

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I hear the stans guys really like it when you demonstrate the maneuver by running around the room arms stretched out making propeller noises!
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No, we don't.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 13:03   #7
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No, we don't.
Ok.... So some of you new guys are scratching your heads and wondering why the lack of a sense of humor right? Don't worry about it! This is probably just the first time some of you have ever dealt with a "Standz" instuctor before and so, you may not be familiar with the quirks that manifest themselves in certain breeds of CFI once granted the "Standz" hazing privilege.
Anyway, for the most part, you will just have to experience this phenomenon for yourself, but there are a few things you can do to take advantage of the odd psychosis you will witness and then turn it into your benefit. Here are some tips......

The first tactic I would suggest is to find out who your Standardization Instructor is going to be. THEN get to the briefing room early and log into the AMS system and pull up their picture from the database. You know.... the one from BEFORE they were a seasoned standz pilot (ha!) back when they were a frightened little pre-private student with a white shirt and not a single stripe on their epaulets. Then...... angle the computer monitor so that it is visible to the standz pilot from where he/she will enter the briefing room.

Now, most likely they will feign some laughter and shock when they see it, so just be easy-going and use it as an ice-breaker and say something about how you wanted to see what they looked like so you could find them in the lobby... blah blah blah..... But!... really what you are doing is planting a seed in their head! And thereby deflating some of the posturing and ridiculousness that the typical standz pilot just can't seem to resist flexing. And if you can swing it, try to leave the picture up on the monitor throughout the brief. Every second you can get them to look at that picture while wondering what YOU must think about it can pay huge dividends toward deflating their posturing.

Second.....I would suggest that while in the airplane, you make sure that you have them demonstrate a maneuver early in the flight. I guarantee it will be crappy because most of these guys NEVER fly. If it's crazy windy, i suggest dropping a ground reference maneuver on them. Of course, they will try to act like they are messing up the maneuver on purpose to see how you would handle a student in the same situation, but that's OK! Again, your battlefield is a psychological one! You are only planting seeds. On the inside, they know how rusty they are and will start to feel shame. THEN, when you rock the maneuver to total perfection, you will have asserted yourself in ways you can not fathom. This most likely will have them start thinking ahead to the next IP candidate and they will start daydreaming about how hopefully that one will be more easily intimidated and apt to look at them with that sparkle of awe that they crave.

Remember, don't feel bad about any of this. By deflating the egos of standz pilots you are helping yourself....AND THEM.
Good luck.....
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Old March 13th, 2010, 13:50   #8
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Oh look, another CFI that couldn't cut the mustard in our program.

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Wow, that was bold.

Anyway, very informative original post, helped me remember stands and hope it helps the new class.
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Someone needs a hug...... Why so much anger toward the Stan pilots that are helping you get a job!?
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Lets talk about the flight, shall we?

The flight contains every private and commercial flight maneuver for single engine airplane requirements. All maneuvers are expected to be performed to PTS while simultaneously explaining/teaching. This seems to be the significant pitfall of most instructor candidates.

Remember that throughout the flight you are the instructor, and the stan pilot is to be treated as the student. If you make any mistakes throughout any of the maneuvers, please use them as teaching examples. The students are going to make mistakes when they attempt maneuvers and we want to hear your criticism and analysis of your performance. Do not try to cover up your mistakes, or say that it was PTS when it clearly wasn't. We are perfectly OK with mistakes, just teach me about it. Always admit your errors to your students. They know you're not God, don't act like it.

Do not teach too much. A lot of new instructors sometimes feel the need to narrate and comment on everything that occurs during the flight. Don't. We want to hear the key instructions, and main points. We don't need a play by play announcer of every little item. Be careful that you don't over-instruct the maneuvers. Especially in the traffic pattern, be very cautious of how much instruction you're giving. If you want the 'student' to complete a maneuver, be sure to take the controls before providing your short debrief. The student has little to no ability to listen and perceive your criticism and debrief while flying the aircraft.

Be sure to have a plan of action on how to complete the lesson. You already have a complete list of all maneuvers to be completed, use it. You will be responsible for execution of the lesson with a student, so assume that role for this flight. Tell me which maneuvers we're going to do, and in what order. Ensure that we remain in the same practice area, or that we don't stray 10 miles from the airport. Keep an eye on the hobbs time, and ensure that we are not taking too much time between maneuvers. These are essential skills as an active CFI.

Organize your plan of action so it makes sense. Don't climb to 3500 after departure, then climb to 4500 with chandelles, and go immediately into a steep spiral. That will require us to climb back up to altitude most likely to perform additional maneuvers. This is a waste of time, and waste of the students money. Complete all your altitude maneuvers before descending. Once we've descended, lets complete the simulated emergency landing, followed by the ground reference. Once those are completed, we should be done with maneuvers and heading to an airport for landings.

No matter what anyone tells you, the power off 180 approach is not an emergency landing. Do not tell me how you would 'troubleshoot' for the failed engine. Do not give an example of us using this technique in an emergency. This is a performance maneuver to demonstrate proficiency and accuracy. We do not need, or want, to see you perform the power off landing checklist/procedure for the power off 180 approach. I see this a lot on stage checks, and even though it is not an unsatisfactory, it is a standardization issue.

Do not be afraid to conduct a go around. During debriefs the candidates will say 'well I would have had the student go around'. Why didn't you? Some of the stan pilots will not be satisfied with a go around, as the PTS allows only one attempt for satisfactory, however I personally prefer the go around. I have never, and will never, grade unsatisfactory for a go around. Unless the student is unable to satisfactorily complete the landing from multiple attempts.

Most of all this is a standardization flight, so remember that the procedures and checklists are graded most. We need to see you do the checklists and procedures as listed in the training handbooks. If you have to double check the memory item checklists, do it. Don't feel that you must do them from memory. Complete what you can from memory, then verify. This is what you should teach your students to do, it is what you should also do.

Ensure to complete your clearing turns, radio call, and pre-maneuver checklist prior to commencing maneuvers. We have and do fail students for this on stage checks, so you better believe that instructor candidates fail stan flights for it. In fact I know of a new instructor that recently failed his stan flight for this very item. It's crucial for the student to understand the importance of this. Collision avoidance is a special emphasis area of darn near every PTS, and it's often listed in the specific task of maneuvers.

Contrary to what you may hear about the stan pilots, most of us are more than willing to help you along. We are not looking to fail you, we are looking to ensure you are capable of teaching our students the 'right' way. You have the benefit of a wide range of experienced instructors to help you out. I am the least experienced of all the IPs doing stan flights. Regardless of being on the bottom, I've been teaching the 'right' way for 3 years, doing stage checks for over 2 years, and I have instructed in every current program minus one. I do not know everything, but I sure think I can help ya'll out some.

Don't be afraid to speak up and ask questions. I'm here to help.
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So what happens if you fail the standards flight? Is the candidate let go or given a chance to study up and retake the flight?
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We debrief on deficient areas, provide instruction on how to satisfactorily complete it, and you get another chance. Highly recommended that you fly prior to the standardization flight to avoid this, however, stuff happens. I am unaware as to how many chances they are giving the candidates to complete the flight, however it is not unusual for some to require 2-3 attempts.

You have to try really hard to be let go right now, so I doubt that would be the outcome.
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Soooo how are the flights going?
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Soooo how are the flights going?
Guessing ok..... Kinda quite on the web site. No more rants from "ignatious j".....
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I have done a few, most required a redo on the brief because of lack of material or using lecture method instead of guided discussion. Remember to ask the 'student' more than just rote answer questions. If you want to talk about something, ask the student about it. Don't say things like 'Lets talk about adverse yaw' say 'Why do we have differential ailerons?'

I've only done two flights and both were good.

Cross controlled stalls have been the common weak area I've seen. Remember that demonstration stalls will never be performed by the student, so you don't need to teach me how to do it. You need to teach me why and how it happens, and how to correct it.

Memory item checklists are to be done from memory. Read and do checklists are to be read and completed. Some candidates don't have the emergency checklists memorized, or are trying to do some read and do checklists from memory.

I'm not sure if I will be doing any more stan flights this week or not.
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I have seen least 10 or more of the 22 that have students not. I got my gold stripes today. Looking forward to it, see you on the line.
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Congrats guys. Us PTN'ers dont even get our exam ride until mid April. ACK!!!! Gotta love the JAA!! Have fun with your new students.
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So is 22 the final number? You all started with 30 right? Including PTN
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So 3 didnt make the cut? Wonder what for?
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There are still retakes going on. Second and third attempts.

Not sure on final numbers.
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