CFI Hiring at FlightSafety - Page 2

bLizZuE · April 6th, 2006, 19:07

they fired a bunch of people today, and perhaps more tomorrow

rausda27 · April 6th, 2006, 23:28

Who was let go? Instructors or Managers?

bLizZuE · April 6th, 2006, 23:45

no instructors, mainly admin people.

I heard they fired Joan, the front desk lady, and the meteorologist. Those are the only ones I remember. I think there were about 9-10 all together.

pavelump · April 7th, 2006, 11:04

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Originally Posted by bLizZuE

and the meteorologist.

The older guy who used to work for Eastern? Krap, I can't remember his name.

He was my favorite instructor. Not one of those "read from the powerpoint" kind of guys. He really knows his ##### when it comes to weather... If so, too bad. FlightSafety's loss...

CLRSKY · April 7th, 2006, 17:01

Basically there has been a shift in management and people, but it is for there best and I am excited to see the results. On a flip side some of the lay offs are unfortunate because they were good people. I know people in Admin were let go, some ground instructors, 2 mechanics (i think part-timers), other personal (such as Marleen

) and later today we will know what happened with the higher up crew of Gramps, Twitchy and Mr. Personaility. Sadly we also had one amazing man resign, of which I do not know details but Marcel is no longer with the Academy.
Hopefully this is all for the best. Other than that I know there are still plenty of students, flight instructors are swamped, the flightline/dispatch is almost complete and hopefully we will have a hanger again which was taken from the 2004 hurricane.

rausda27 · April 7th, 2006, 18:13

Too bad about Marcel, I suppose he had had enough like many others that have recently left.

bLizZuE · April 8th, 2006, 13:04

One other thing they did, was close the library on weekends, and shorten the hours it's open during weekdays. Now it's only open 9-6 M-F. A lot of students are pretty upset about that.

Snow · April 9th, 2006, 12:26

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Originally Posted by rausda27

Too bad about Marcel, I suppose he had had enough like many others that have recently left.

Yeah they took him off salery and made him hourly again and he couldn't put food on the table with that. Last I heard he's applying for a King Air Instructor position at the Atlanta Simulator Center.

Flyingbug · April 17th, 2006, 11:26

I checked some house prices in FL ( mainly vero beach area...as i plan on instructing at FSA until something bigger/better comes along)..A half decent house(nothing fancy) ranges somewhere around $250-$300k or so....I have two properties here in canada....One being my residence will be sold before i move to FL, i am 28.

I agree with B767 and others about the 20% down strongly..I will have some money for the downpayment of the house from my sale as i have owned it since i was 24...my wife however is not sure about the idea of buying a house when we move there...mainly because vero beach being a small town ...unsure of how long we are going to live there...and so forth.
But,me on the other hand ...i have past the idea of renting...and don't feel it is a good idea to rent at all...maybe in the beginning for a month or two...but I am trying to convince my wife into buying something.....at least in the bigger cities around vero like melbourne/west palm beach...so on. I have to factor in the travel time to work then as well.

any thoughts would help.....from guys that hve been .....in a similar type situation,how did they cope with this?

How is vero beach/melbourne area to live...I am trying to get some first hand suggestions rather than what they have on city-data sites.

badco99 · April 17th, 2006, 14:13

FlyingBug,

Were you hired from outside FSA, or are you going there to get your CFI and then try and instruct? Either way with all the BS that is going on right now I wouldn't want to work there, and I know several people that feel the same way. Also, if they make you sign a contract be VERY sure about what it says. You mentioned you wanted to work there until something better comes along, just make sure you can leave anytime and not have to pay them back for any training. I know I sound negative. The training was excellent, but they treat their instructors like crap.

As for buying a house, I think anyone would tell you if you're only going to be there for a year or two it probably isn't worth it and you'd end up losing money before you made any. Of course rent is just another black hole we throw money into.

Good luck.

rausda27 · April 18th, 2006, 20:14

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Originally Posted by badco99

As for buying a house, I think anyone would tell you if you're only going to be there for a year or two it probably isn't worth it and you'd end up losing money before you made any. Of course rent is just another black hole we throw money into.

Good luck.

I bought a house in Vero when I became an instructor there and sold it just over a year and a half later. Made 4 times my current regional pay in equity. So I would say buying a house is not a bad idea.

badco99 · April 19th, 2006, 14:30

well, then I'd say just make sure you run the numbers first. It can go either way from what I've read. Seems like the housing market is doing well in that area, so that probably helps.

launchpad · April 20th, 2006, 03:05

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Originally Posted by rausda27

I bought a house in Vero when I became an instructor there and sold it just over a year and a half later. Made 4 times my current regional pay in equity. So I would say buying a house is not a bad idea.

same here......

all you need is another hurricane to wipe out all the crappy houses out there.....anything left standing will automatically be worth 100k more....that's what happend the first time.....

pavelump · April 20th, 2006, 18:19

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Originally Posted by launchpad

same here......

all you need is another hurricane to wipe out all the crappy houses out there.....anything left standing will automatically be worth 100k more....that's what happend the first time.....

Boy, hopefully that will happen... Uh, yeah.

Visceral · April 26th, 2006, 22:12

Any truth to the rumor that all the CFIs are now part-time and thereby not eligible for benefits?

n2o2diver · April 26th, 2006, 22:45

Not true. All CFI's are full time. However, those that are program managers are no longer salaried. They are back to hourly.

Dave, if you were thinking of Brillhart he has been let go and the slide reader was kept on, go figure.

pavelump · April 27th, 2006, 21:22

That sucks. Brillhart was one of the good ones.

April 6th, 2006, 19:07	#26
bLizZuE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 1,216	they fired a bunch of people today, and perhaps more tomorrow __________________ \| website \| CFI \| CFII \| MEI \| 141 Check Instructor \| AOPA Mentor Pilot

April 6th, 2006, 23:45	#28
bLizZuE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 1,216	no instructors, mainly admin people. I heard they fired Joan, the front desk lady, and the meteorologist. Those are the only ones I remember. I think there were about 9-10 all together. __________________ \| website \| CFI \| CFII \| MEI \| 141 Check Instructor \| AOPA Mentor Pilot

April 8th, 2006, 13:04	#32
bLizZuE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vero Beach, Florida Posts: 1,216	One other thing they did, was close the library on weekends, and shorten the hours it's open during weekdays. Now it's only open 9-6 M-F. A lot of students are pretty upset about that. __________________ \| website \| CFI \| CFII \| MEI \| 141 Check Instructor \| AOPA Mentor Pilot

April 17th, 2006, 11:26	#34
Flyingbug Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 34	Fellow FSA instructors/students/vero beach area residents. I checked some house prices in FL ( mainly vero beach area...as i plan on instructing at FSA until something bigger/better comes along)..A half decent house(nothing fancy) ranges somewhere around $250-$300k or so....I have two properties here in canada....One being my residence will be sold before i move to FL, i am 28. I agree with B767 and others about the 20% down strongly..I will have some money for the downpayment of the house from my sale as i have owned it since i was 24...my wife however is not sure about the idea of buying a house when we move there...mainly because vero beach being a small town ...unsure of how long we are going to live there...and so forth. But,me on the other hand ...i have past the idea of renting...and don't feel it is a good idea to rent at all...maybe in the beginning for a month or two...but I am trying to convince my wife into buying something.....at least in the bigger cities around vero like melbourne/west palm beach...so on. I have to factor in the travel time to work then as well. any thoughts would help.....from guys that hve been .....in a similar type situation,how did they cope with this? How is vero beach/melbourne area to live...I am trying to get some first hand suggestions rather than what they have on city-data sites.

April 26th, 2006, 22:12	#40
Visceral Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 293	Re: CFI Hiring at FlightSafety Any truth to the rumor that all the CFIs are now part-time and thereby not eligible for benefits?

April 6th, 2006, 23:28	#27
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,275	Who was let go? Instructors or Managers?

April 7th, 2006, 17:01	#30
CLRSKY Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	Basically there has been a shift in management and people, but it is for there best and I am excited to see the results. On a flip side some of the lay offs are unfortunate because they were good people. I know people in Admin were let go, some ground instructors, 2 mechanics (i think part-timers), other personal (such as Marleen ) and later today we will know what happened with the higher up crew of Gramps, Twitchy and Mr. Personaility. Sadly we also had one amazing man resign, of which I do not know details but Marcel is no longer with the Academy. Hopefully this is all for the best. Other than that I know there are still plenty of students, flight instructors are swamped, the flightline/dispatch is almost complete and hopefully we will have a hanger again which was taken from the 2004 hurricane.

April 7th, 2006, 18:13	#31
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,275	Too bad about Marcel, I suppose he had had enough like many others that have recently left.

April 17th, 2006, 14:13	#35
badco99 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 133	FlyingBug, Were you hired from outside FSA, or are you going there to get your CFI and then try and instruct? Either way with all the BS that is going on right now I wouldn't want to work there, and I know several people that feel the same way. Also, if they make you sign a contract be VERY sure about what it says. You mentioned you wanted to work there until something better comes along, just make sure you can leave anytime and not have to pay them back for any training. I know I sound negative. The training was excellent, but they treat their instructors like crap. As for buying a house, I think anyone would tell you if you're only going to be there for a year or two it probably isn't worth it and you'd end up losing money before you made any. Of course rent is just another black hole we throw money into. Good luck.

April 19th, 2006, 14:30	#37
badco99 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 133	well, then I'd say just make sure you run the numbers first. It can go either way from what I've read. Seems like the housing market is doing well in that area, so that probably helps.

April 26th, 2006, 22:45	#41
n2o2diver Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Livin the Dream Posts: 220	Re: CFI Hiring at FlightSafety Not true. All CFI's are full time. However, those that are program managers are no longer salaried. They are back to hourly. Dave, if you were thinking of Brillhart he has been let go and the slide reader was kept on, go figure. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin

April 27th, 2006, 21:22	#42
pavelump Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 790	Re: CFI Hiring at FlightSafety That sucks. Brillhart was one of the good ones.

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