ari ben questionz?

jhugz · May 3rd, 2008, 02:19

so i am a couple days away from getting my cmel and am looking into ari-ben to do my cfi-s....they supposedly do em all for a 10,500...wondering if that is a realistic price...also supposedly you get 5,000 back if you stay with them for 6 months...I am wondering how legit that is if you literally get cut a check for 5 grand or if it is based on some stupid bonus incentives if you pass x amount of students...my plans are to go there for the 2 months to pass the 3 checkrides...instruct for six months down there...and then come back to cle were i was basically guaranteed a job with commutair if i got some instructing hours in...i am getting a leave of absense with my f/a job there to do this in the next couple of months so i have some major decisions...any advice would be appreciated...post or pm

Thanks,
jhugz

p.s: its 2:30 am so i apologize for the grammar

jwp_145 · May 3rd, 2008, 10:33

That sounds entirely too expensive. I did my CFI initial for something like 3 grand, and my CFII I don't expect to cost ore than a thousand... MEI should be around 2 grand depending on the airplane. Well, I guess that comes within a few thousand, but as per the refund incentive, seems like flight schools are really good at Bait-and-switch.

BillErvin · May 4th, 2008, 00:08

Call them, ask for Ari, I think he'll give you the straight scoop. They are hurting for non-European instructors, so the offer as I understand is what they say on the web site. Interesting that the instructor program offers 5K and the pro pilot program offers 4K, both for six months

Florida_Flyer · May 5th, 2008, 06:10

My experience of the place is a little dated now but I will say this. Make sure that they have an instructor available who can sign you off. In the past the school has been bad at getting CFI's done fast. You don't want to be hanging round for six months because of the schools incompetence. The market for pilots is cooling down right now and will get worse (in my opinion). Get your CFI's, hours and regional job ASAP and don't do the MEI and CFII unless you 100% have to. You can't afford to hang around now.

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Call them, ask for Ari, I think he'll give you the straight scoop.

He will tell you exactly what you want to hear to get you there. A very slippy guy who has no interest in your training just the $$$$$.

BillErvin · May 5th, 2008, 16:41

Hey FF, your back, and still a bitter soul!

Its been pretty boring around the Ari-Ben posts since you've been on probation.

Bill

mcdavi02 · May 13th, 2008, 11:04

Does anyone have any recent experience with the Ari 5K flight instructor reimbursement? How exactly does it work? Does the six months start the day you take on your first student? Do they just cut a check?

brentg350 · May 13th, 2008, 21:58

He's bitter and I see why....I'm at Ari ben right now.

BillErvin · May 14th, 2008, 00:03

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Originally Posted by mcdavi02

Does anyone have any recent experience with the Ari 5K flight instructor reimbursement? How exactly does it work? Does the six months start the day you take on your first student? Do they just cut a check?

I don't think program has been around for six months yet

Gonzo · May 14th, 2008, 00:11

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Originally Posted by brentg350

He's bitter and I see why....I'm at Ari ben right now.

Care to give any info.

juxtapilot · May 14th, 2008, 03:16

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Care to give any info.

Please?

NickH · May 14th, 2008, 13:20

I suggest waiting and giving us the full story when you leave.

juxtapilot · May 14th, 2008, 19:25

What's going on right now? Are there enough airplanes/instructors? I'm getting ready to drop 20k there, so any info would be much appreciated... The earlier the better. Thanks.

Florida_Flyer · May 16th, 2008, 13:16

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He's bitter and I see why....I'm at Ari ben right now.

I'm sorry to hear you're having a tough time. The best way I found to relieve the stresses of training at the Aviator was to kick the dog at the end of a tough day. I didn't have one of my own so I had to kick TJ's instead.....but with muscles like yours you'll probably be wanting to kick Ari instead.

Yes I'm painted as a bitter and twisted loser. I'm probably a bit on the twisted side but not the other two. My career is live and well. I've gained nothing from my near three year campaign against this school; except a bit of coldly dished out revenge and the satisfaction of opening the eyes of a few people to how this school operates.

MFT1Air · May 17th, 2008, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Florida_Flyer

I'm sorry to hear you're having a tough time. The best way I found to relieve the stresses of training at the Aviator was to kick the dog at the end of a tough day. I didn't have one of my own so I had to kick TJ's instead.....but with muscles like yours you'll probably be wanting to kick Ari instead.

Yes I'm painted as a bitter and twisted loser. I'm probably a bit on the twisted side but not the other two. My career is live and well. I've gained nothing from my near three year campaign against this school; except a bit of coldly dished out revenge and the satisfaction of opening the eyes of a few people to how this school operates.

I'm inclined to disagree with you. "Bitter and twisted?" I believe that's the perception of many. "Lacking a spine/backbone" to speak objectively about your experiences while at the school vice waiting until you left then initiating a negative, unsubstantiated collection of rhetoric about the school that reeked of

(Nana! You can't touch me!) Yes, there may be a few to agree to that perspective of you.

Yes, there are a few who read your words and raised an eyebrow. There are many others who followed the comments of many on this forum more incisive than you who performed a "due diligence" analysis of the academy by visiting and asking staff, faculty, and students those hard questions. . .then chose to attend.

Their final conclusion of your posts? "Bitter and twisted!" Perhaps.

As for your being perceived as a loser? Subconscious self analysis perhaps?

May 3rd, 2008, 02:19	#1
jhugz Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Parma, OH (15G) Posts: 53	ari ben questionz? so i am a couple days away from getting my cmel and am looking into ari-ben to do my cfi-s....they supposedly do em all for a 10,500...wondering if that is a realistic price...also supposedly you get 5,000 back if you stay with them for 6 months...I am wondering how legit that is if you literally get cut a check for 5 grand or if it is based on some stupid bonus incentives if you pass x amount of students...my plans are to go there for the 2 months to pass the 3 checkrides...instruct for six months down there...and then come back to cle were i was basically guaranteed a job with commutair if i got some instructing hours in...i am getting a leave of absense with my f/a job there to do this in the next couple of months so i have some major decisions...any advice would be appreciated...post or pm Thanks, jhugz p.s: its 2:30 am so i apologize for the grammar __________________ "A true aviation professional knows his/her limitations and does everything possible to stay within those limitations." - Some Captain

May 3rd, 2008, 10:33	#2
jwp_145 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK USA Posts: 181	Re: ari ben questionz? That sounds entirely too expensive. I did my CFI initial for something like 3 grand, and my CFII I don't expect to cost ore than a thousand... MEI should be around 2 grand depending on the airplane. Well, I guess that comes within a few thousand, but as per the refund incentive, seems like flight schools are really good at Bait-and-switch.

May 4th, 2008, 00:08	#3
BillErvin Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Midlothian TX Posts: 151	Re: ari ben questionz? Call them, ask for Ari, I think he'll give you the straight scoop. They are hurting for non-European instructors, so the offer as I understand is what they say on the web site. Interesting that the instructor program offers 5K and the pro pilot program offers 4K, both for six months __________________ \_____@(")@_____/ Every day I remind myself that my inner & outer life is based on the labor of Patriots, living & dead, and I strive to live up to that sacrifice.

May 5th, 2008, 16:41	#5
BillErvin Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Midlothian TX Posts: 151	Re: ari ben questionz? Hey FF, your back, and still a bitter soul! Its been pretty boring around the Ari-Ben posts since you've been on probation. Bill __________________ \_____@(")@_____/ Every day I remind myself that my inner & outer life is based on the labor of Patriots, living & dead, and I strive to live up to that sacrifice.

May 13th, 2008, 11:04	#6
mcdavi02 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 66	Re: ari ben questionz? Does anyone have any recent experience with the Ari 5K flight instructor reimbursement? How exactly does it work? Does the six months start the day you take on your first student? Do they just cut a check?

May 13th, 2008, 21:58	#7
brentg350 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 39	Re: ari ben questionz? He's bitter and I see why....I'm at Ari ben right now. __________________ G ____________________ Fear, as I understand it, is simply due to a lack of confidence or a lack of knowledge which is the same thing. - Katherine Stinson

May 14th, 2008, 13:20	#11
NickH Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 624	Re: ari ben questionz? I suggest waiting and giving us the full story when you leave.

May 14th, 2008, 19:25	#12
juxtapilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 591	Re: ari ben questionz? What's going on right now? Are there enough airplanes/instructors? I'm getting ready to drop 20k there, so any info would be much appreciated... The earlier the better. Thanks. __________________ http://juxtapilot.flyblog.com/

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