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Old April 20th, 2008, 03:54   #1
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HEy If any one Has Info On Good Flight schools that Wont Rip OFF
Students Please Post here.
Looking For schools that are not into only Money but are in the business for the love of aviation.
Schools that will Deliver as promised, within Cost and time quoted. Lets get rid of the "milkers".
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Old April 20th, 2008, 04:35   #2
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Go to your local FBO and find a good part 61 school.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 07:25   #3
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HEy If any one Has Info On Good Flight schools that Wont Rip OFF
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Looking For schools that are not into only Money but are in the business for the love of aviation.
Schools that will Deliver as promised, within Cost and time quoted. Lets get rid of the "milkers".
Thanks,
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Aviation as is any other form of learning is not a fixed product. Everyone learns at a different rate and that will result in different costs. The hours requirements for specific rating/certificates are listed as minimums. The end result may be the same, but how you get to that point is going to vary from person to person.

FBO's are a business and no matter how you look at it, their goal is to make money.

Question for you...Have you done any research yourself? Just looking at your post it doesn't seem like you have. If so, what have you found?
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Old April 20th, 2008, 09:47   #4
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Default Re: POST Good Flight Schools

Two good responses so far, although not all Part 61 schools are good just because they are small. As JEP said, do your research thoroughly, make phone calls, talk to students, talk to the mechanics who work on the planes, talk to CFIs etc.

Get on overall impression from each school you are interested in from daily operations to CFI happiness to student happiness. No school can guarantee you can get X rating for Y hours. It just doesn't happen. Some students will come in right at mins, others will be higher. Fact of training. Good luck!
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Old April 20th, 2008, 10:49   #5
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US Flight Academy in Denton TX.
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Old April 20th, 2008, 12:12   #6
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a good flight school is a pretty subjective subject....i'd say find one that's close to you that has good references from the students and instructors through the years.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 00:01   #7
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Aviation as is any other form of learning is not a fixed product. Everyone learns at a different rate and that will result in different costs. The hours requirements for specific rating/certificates are listed as minimums. The end result may be the same, but how you get to that point is going to vary from person to person.

FBO's are a business and no matter how you look at it, their goal is to make money.

Question for you...Have you done any research yourself? Just looking at your post it doesn't seem like you have. If so, what have you found?

Thanks all for your input, I have looked at ATP but its financially out of my reach, Ariben looks good but has way too many students (200 students and 40 or so aircraft). Orlando flight Training ( same as ari ben too many students). Streamline Aviation in austin TX(streamlineair.com) Has caught my eye they have an all new diamond fleet, No one seems to have heard of them which worries me, also the price quoted seems way two low for brand new airplanes. $22,900 to commercial multi with 35 hrs multi, 9hrs being pic. What do you guys think?
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Old April 21st, 2008, 00:16   #8
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Falcon Aviation Academy out of Peachtree City Georgia has a great deal going right now.

Especially if you want to work as a flight instructor and build valuable work experience.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 17:45   #9
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As far as cost and time goes, ATP is the cheapest and fastest way to get to the airlines. After your 3 or 4 month program, you come out with a little over 200 hours Total Time and around 150 Multi (which is well over regional airline multi mins). It's a fixed price program so they don't charge for additional ground instruction. The problem is it is so fast it is like drinking wiskey out of a pressure washer. You miss a lot of valuable ground training and knowledge that you will need if you plan on flying anything other than a regional jet. The best way to take on a school like this is to study everything on your own BEFORE you even show up. Have all of your writtens passed before you walk in the door. (ATP will reimburse you for all but the ground instructor writtens. And stay away from Daytona and Vegas!)

A slower paced school with good 1 on 1 or a small ground school (like a mpom and pop FBO) would be the more expensive, yet easier way for you to acquire your ratings, but would give you a more solid background for your aviation career. (Remember, here you are being charged for ground instruction by the hour.)

Remember, a lot of flight schools are more business than schools, so do your research and learn to survive in whatever route you take.

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Old April 21st, 2008, 18:23   #10
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aviator718 being that me and yo live in bassically the same area, I would have to reccommend Century Air. That is where a couple members on this forum ( and soon me too) are doing their flight training. It is a Mom and Pop FBO, but at the same time very proffesional in a ATP sorta way. Here is their website if you wanna give then a peek www.CenturyAir.com, or just google them. They are located in Caldwell, NJ and approximately to get all your ratings their rounds out to about 45,000$ which is wayy less than ATP and the airport is not only towered, but if you don't notice is in the very busy NYC airspace which to me makes for great training/experience.

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Old April 21st, 2008, 18:48   #11
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Ariben looks good but has way too many students (200 students and 40 or so aircraft)
The Aviator, as far as I know, doesn't have 200 students. The number is probably closer to 100-150. Currently, the fleet numbers fourteen Be-76 Duchesses (twelve of which are on the line), and just as many C-172 Skyhawks. FWIW.
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 22:25   #12
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I would reccomend Wright Flyers. PPL, IRA, CPL, MEL, and all the CFI/MEIs would run about 35-40 depending on which aircraft you use. Located at SAT. Great training environment.
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The Aviator, as far as I know, doesn't have 200 students. The number is probably closer to 100-150. Currently, the fleet numbers fourteen Be-76 Duchesses (twelve of which are on the line), and just as many C-172 Skyhawks. FWIW.
So with that many students and that many planes, what would you say would be the timeline in terms of completing their Pro Pilot Program? Say 4-6 months?



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Old April 25th, 2008, 12:29   #14
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So with that many students and that many planes, what would you say would be the timeline in terms of completing their Pro Pilot Program? Say 4-6 months?



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For just the Pro Course (for pilots who already have their PPL) it would be about six months.

For those students who do not have a PPL, upwards of eight.
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Old April 25th, 2008, 21:06   #15
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Century Air.
I'm actually starting my Instrument course with Century Air on Monday. Not a great deal of choice around the NYC area with schools with a Multi-Engine planes and their facility is seriously top notch. They also have a really nice sim (can't remember the exact model) with a 180 degree screen that takes up a good amount of space. Only thing missing is full motion
I'll post more after I start my training with them.
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Falcon Aviation Academy out of Peachtree City Georgia has a great deal going right now.

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My vote is for:

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Century Air.
I'm actually starting my Instrument course with Century Air on Monday. Not a great deal of choice around the NYC area with schools with a Multi-Engine planes and their facility is seriously top notch. They also have a really nice sim (can't remember the exact model) with a 180 degree screen that takes up a good amount of space. Only thing missing is full motion
I'll post more after I start my training with them.

Please do! I am actually starting my PPL with them as soon as school is over (around late june-ish). How much does the IR course run about normally?

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