Multi time building

alexk1980 · November 19th, 2006, 22:00

I am considering the multi time building at Aviator...

I currently have 38 multi hours, can anyone fill me in how this works?? Can I fly the crap out of the airplane so that I get it done quick, I have a job and a newborn that need me close to home.

USMC-SGT · November 19th, 2006, 22:06

A family friend of mine did their 100hr multi program about 3 years ago and got it done in around 15 days I believe. Him and his time building partner flew just about 7 hours every single day for 15 days straight. They pretty much lived, slept and breathed duchess while they were there but they were in and out in a hurry.

supra1998tt · November 21st, 2006, 09:19

yeah it can be done as fast as you and the other guy want you both fly 100 hrs one under the hood and that way you can both log pic reason being the other is safety pilot

Gonzo · November 21st, 2006, 11:35

I did some time building with a guy that did his 100hrs in seven days.

SmitteyB · November 21st, 2006, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

I did some time building with a guy that did his 100hrs in seven days.

Nothing...

When I was at Aviator I lived with a guy who did 200 hours in 13 days. Rediculous.

CarolinaAviator1984 · November 21st, 2006, 15:24

oh yeah well i did my 100 hours over 3 months so haaa (now a month was spent in hawaii. then a month in nc for xmas so i guess it really took about a month ) who wants to fly around florida 7 hours a day fortpiss to tallahassee then fortpiss to jax enjoy yourself a little take a little more time and go places i really liked flying home and showing of the beautiful duchess to the guys at my old school who get only 15 hours in the twin

Florida_Flyer · November 21st, 2006, 15:24

Talahasee and back (4.5hrs) in the early hours of the morning every day was pretty tough going......but some guys would do TLH and then head back out to Key West or even Talahasee again. 9 hours flying! Not for me. If you want to get get done fast with your time building the Christmas period is a good time to come as it should be quiet and you'll get planes easy.

Gonzorox · November 21st, 2006, 23:20

"Yeah well that's nothing"!

When I was attending the Aviator, I completed the 100 hour timebuilding phase in just under 2 days. "Actual" and "Night" the entire time. We actually did air-to-air refueling with old "47W". Not with a cool re-fueling nozzle but with a 5 gallon bucket of gas. We were also actually flying 2 planes at once... We also were able to do laundry and cook meals in the back of the plane while flying.

Sorry, bored in the crewroom tonite!

Seriously though, make sure to keep it safe... after a while you tend to get sleepy and, ironically, so doesn't the guy sitting next to you!

greaper007 · November 21st, 2006, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Gonzorox

Seriously though, make sure to keep it safe... after a while you tend to get sleepy and, ironically, so doesn't the guy sitting next to you!

Speaking of Sleepy, how long are your days at Express?

Long time no see Neil. I got my hair cut yesterday by some chick that said she just cut your hair.

manolo1492 · November 22nd, 2006, 01:11

That was funny as hell Neil, really. Now where the heck are my milkshakes??

MFT1Air · November 23rd, 2006, 21:12

What about trips over to the Bahamas? Any flights made over there? Any benefits to having an international flight or two under your belt?

Gonzorox · November 26th, 2006, 12:37

Days at Express really vary... you could do just one leg where you show up at 2pm and you're checking in to the hotel at 5pm. Or you could do the max 15.5 hours of duty with close to 8 hours of flying. My last trip:
1st day: 7 hours flying, duty 12hrs
2nd Day: 3 hours flying, duty 6.5
3rd day: 3 hours flying, duty 6
4th day 7 hours flying, duty 11
Second day was Thanksgiving with a 24 hour overnight. They def keep us busy at Express.

So Cindy cut your hairs?! She's really cool, she cuts a lot of "Aviators" hairs!

Manolo... the milkshakes are still in erica's car!! I'll be in Houston tuesday or wednesday.

alexk1980 · December 21st, 2006, 11:24

I am planning on attending aviator in Jan and am definately wondering about taking the plane down to the Caribbean. Do you need a radio ops license and where would you get one?

greaper007 · December 21st, 2006, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpar80

I am planning on attending aviator in Jan and am definately wondering about taking the plane down to the Caribbean. Do you need a radio ops license and where would you get one?

Not sure if you need the FCC license, you get it from the FCC website though and it's good for life. So I'd say just pony up the fifty bucks and get it. Have fun trying to figure out where it is in the website though. I had a cheat sheet that showed me exactly what to click on and I still can't tell you how I did it.

Cruise · December 22nd, 2006, 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpar80

I am planning on attending aviator in Jan and am definately wondering about taking the plane down to the Caribbean. Do you need a radio ops license and where would you get one?

Not sure if you NEED the radio license......but GET IT ANYWAY. It's only going to become more expensive in the future and, as greaper said, it's good for life. So pony up the bucks now and get it.

Unfortunately, it really is just a scam to make more money by the government. Nothing required to obtain.....other than money, of course.

This should help!
click here!

MFT1Air · December 22nd, 2006, 22:16

Comments from others indicate it is a requirement. If we'll now be required to have passports come 2007, I'd ensure ALL my documentation is available should it be requested.

Airborne840 · December 25th, 2006, 19:25

I thought the airlines dont like to see a bunch of safety pilot time. I know a guy who had over 100 hours safety pilot and the airline didnt even look at it for his total time..

DE727UPS · December 25th, 2006, 22:35

"I know a guy who had over 100 hours safety pilot and the airline didnt even look at it for his total time.."

What airline?

daru1 · December 26th, 2006, 00:37

Uh oh, you've awakened the anti-PFT monster

SmitteyB · December 26th, 2006, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"I know a guy who had over 100 hours safety pilot and the airline didnt even look at it for his total time.."

What airline?

American Eagle is one.

Andrew_VT · December 26th, 2006, 21:41

I know someone who was trying to get a job with Linear Air and they wouldnt count his safety pilot time for the ME time requirement. This guy was pissed, thought he paid for 100 hours of multi at ari-ben so that should count for 100 hours, upon scouring his logbook they decided he needed another 50 hours.

Gonzo · December 26th, 2006, 21:45

That sucks Linear Air is one of the companies I would like to work for as a first job. I only have 35 hours of safety pilot time hopefully people won't look down on that too much.

Florida_Flyer · December 27th, 2006, 09:25

90% of airlines are okay with the safety pilot thing. Eagle probably isn't the place to go right now anyway. Total time and multi time are just boxes that need to be ticked to get an interview.

DE727UPS · December 27th, 2006, 11:34

"90% of airlines are okay with the safety pilot thing. Eagle probably isn't the place to go right now anyway"

Skywest doesn't accept it towards their mins, either.

SmitteyB · December 27th, 2006, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"90% of airlines are okay with the safety pilot thing. Eagle probably isn't the place to go right now anyway"

Skywest doesn't accept it towards their mins, either.

True...now if SkyWest would just get unionized.

November 19th, 2006, 22:00	#1
alexk1980 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 64	Multi time building I am considering the multi time building at Aviator... I currently have 38 multi hours, can anyone fill me in how this works?? Can I fly the crap out of the airplane so that I get it done quick, I have a job and a newborn that need me close to home.

November 19th, 2006, 22:06	#2
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,145	Re: Multi time building A family friend of mine did their 100hr multi program about 3 years ago and got it done in around 15 days I believe. Him and his time building partner flew just about 7 hours every single day for 15 days straight. They pretty much lived, slept and breathed duchess while they were there but they were in and out in a hurry. __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

November 21st, 2006, 09:19	#3
supra1998tt Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 68	Re: Multi time building yeah it can be done as fast as you and the other guy want you both fly 100 hrs one under the hood and that way you can both log pic reason being the other is safety pilot

November 21st, 2006, 11:35	#4
Gonzo Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,676	Re: Multi time building I did some time building with a guy that did his 100hrs in seven days.

November 21st, 2006, 15:24	#6
CarolinaAviator1984 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Currently in florida Posts: 20	Re: Multi time building oh yeah well i did my 100 hours over 3 months so haaa (now a month was spent in hawaii. then a month in nc for xmas so i guess it really took about a month ) who wants to fly around florida 7 hours a day fortpiss to tallahassee then fortpiss to jax enjoy yourself a little take a little more time and go places i really liked flying home and showing of the beautiful duchess to the guys at my old school who get only 15 hours in the twin

November 21st, 2006, 15:24	#7
Florida_Flyer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: FL Posts: 169	Re: Multi time building Talahasee and back (4.5hrs) in the early hours of the morning every day was pretty tough going......but some guys would do TLH and then head back out to Key West or even Talahasee again. 9 hours flying! Not for me. If you want to get get done fast with your time building the Christmas period is a good time to come as it should be quiet and you'll get planes easy.

November 21st, 2006, 23:20	#8
Gonzorox Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Big Bush-KIAH Posts: 198	Re: Multi time building "Yeah well that's nothing"! When I was attending the Aviator, I completed the 100 hour timebuilding phase in just under 2 days. "Actual" and "Night" the entire time. We actually did air-to-air refueling with old "47W". Not with a cool re-fueling nozzle but with a 5 gallon bucket of gas. We were also actually flying 2 planes at once... We also were able to do laundry and cook meals in the back of the plane while flying. Sorry, bored in the crewroom tonite! Seriously though, make sure to keep it safe... after a while you tend to get sleepy and, ironically, so doesn't the guy sitting next to you!

November 22nd, 2006, 01:11	#10
manolo1492 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 64	Re: Multi time building That was funny as hell Neil, really. Now where the heck are my milkshakes??

November 23rd, 2006, 21:12	#11
MFT1Air Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clear Lake, TX Posts: 1,181	Re: Multi time building What about trips over to the Bahamas? Any flights made over there? Any benefits to having an international flight or two under your belt?

November 26th, 2006, 12:37	#12
Gonzorox Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Big Bush-KIAH Posts: 198	Re: Multi time building Days at Express really vary... you could do just one leg where you show up at 2pm and you're checking in to the hotel at 5pm. Or you could do the max 15.5 hours of duty with close to 8 hours of flying. My last trip: 1st day: 7 hours flying, duty 12hrs 2nd Day: 3 hours flying, duty 6.5 3rd day: 3 hours flying, duty 6 4th day 7 hours flying, duty 11 Second day was Thanksgiving with a 24 hour overnight. They def keep us busy at Express. So Cindy cut your hairs?! She's really cool, she cuts a lot of "Aviators" hairs! Manolo... the milkshakes are still in erica's car!! I'll be in Houston tuesday or wednesday.

December 21st, 2006, 11:24	#13
alexk1980 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 64	Re: Multi time building I am planning on attending aviator in Jan and am definately wondering about taking the plane down to the Caribbean. Do you need a radio ops license and where would you get one?

December 22nd, 2006, 22:16	#16
MFT1Air Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clear Lake, TX Posts: 1,181	Re: Multi time building Comments from others indicate it is a requirement. If we'll now be required to have passports come 2007, I'd ensure ALL my documentation is available should it be requested.

December 25th, 2006, 19:25	#17
Airborne840 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 44	Re: Multi time building I thought the airlines dont like to see a bunch of safety pilot time. I know a guy who had over 100 hours safety pilot and the airline didnt even look at it for his total time..

December 25th, 2006, 22:35	#18
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,546	Re: Multi time building "I know a guy who had over 100 hours safety pilot and the airline didnt even look at it for his total time.." What airline?

December 26th, 2006, 00:37	#19
daru1 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 84	Re: Multi time building Uh oh, you've awakened the anti-PFT monster

December 26th, 2006, 21:41	#21
Andrew_VT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 617	Re: Multi time building I know someone who was trying to get a job with Linear Air and they wouldnt count his safety pilot time for the ME time requirement. This guy was pissed, thought he paid for 100 hours of multi at ari-ben so that should count for 100 hours, upon scouring his logbook they decided he needed another 50 hours.

December 26th, 2006, 21:45	#22
Gonzo Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,676	Re: Multi time building That sucks Linear Air is one of the companies I would like to work for as a first job. I only have 35 hours of safety pilot time hopefully people won't look down on that too much.

December 27th, 2006, 09:25	#23
Florida_Flyer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: FL Posts: 169	Re: Multi time building 90% of airlines are okay with the safety pilot thing. Eagle probably isn't the place to go right now anyway. Total time and multi time are just boxes that need to be ticked to get an interview.

December 27th, 2006, 11:34	#24
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,546	Re: Multi time building "90% of airlines are okay with the safety pilot thing. Eagle probably isn't the place to go right now anyway" Skywest doesn't accept it towards their mins, either.

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