What books are included with the Pro-Course?

[S.T.Aviator]

Hey everyone at Ari. I was wondering which books books are include with the Pro-Course and if there were any additional books required or recomended? Thanks for the help.

[Florida_Flyer]

When you arrive at the school, the owner will attempt to sell you the books at an excessive price saying they are "included" in the price. Tell him that your Uncle Gonzo, already gave you the books, listen to my advice and save yourself a hundered bucks.

FAA Airplane Flying Manual, FAA Pilots Handbook, FAA Aviation Weather, Flight Instructors Handook, the Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge and FAA Airplane Flying Handbook - Buy these from Amazon or such like at a fair price, not the Aviator price!

Practical Test Standards for all tests - Why would you buy something that can be downloaded from the FAA website for free? Print them as you are working on the ratings and put them in a folder ready for your MEI. Management ain't gonna tell you that, they'd rather bill you $30-$40.

Pilot Operating Handbooks for BE76 and C172 - Don't get the Cessna one straight away and buy it from an instructor who is leaving. Aviator, want nearly $90 for the BE76 POH. Do yourself a favor and buy the Aicraft Information Manual from www.avshop.com for $41. It's exactly the same!

Gleims - Buy these for the writtens from Amazon and other students. The Michael Hayes oral exam guides are also good. Amazon again!

The only thing that Mike will sell you that is worth the cost is the Duchess manuals written by the Chief Pilot, anything else he tries to sell you tell him to take a hike. Hope this helps.

[S.T.Aviator]

Thanks Florida_Flyer
I checked the FAA website and found that most of the Manuals's and Handbook's are all available for free download. But I am sure I'm gonna want a hard copy. I had actually purchased the Duchess POH on Ebay a little while ago for $15. Just trying to save as much as I can on the things I have control over. Thanks

[Catherine]

Yes, even though they are all free from the FAA, the problem with any of it, even the PTS books are that they are over 100 pages for the most part and some a good bit more than that. Printing even a couple of PTS's doesn't make sense to me considering what my ink and paper cost is along with the usage of my printer when they are easily available.

[Beechlover]

I see the list of books above, and I guess it's that I'm not familiar with them that leaves me confused. I got my PPL and attended instrument ground school through a local university's part 141 program a while back and they used Jeppesen "text books" as the primary ground school teaching materials. The FAA books seemed to used to "supplement" their teaching but they were never used as a primary teaching aid. Not saying there's anything wrong with that but If I'm reading the responses and book list's right it seems that Ari Ben is using the FAA books as their "primary" tools to teach from during ground school and NO "text book" per se .., is that correct? Maybe I just read it wrong.

[kailuaboy]

Originally Posted by Beechlover

I see the list of books above, and I guess it's that I'm not familiar with them that leaves me confused. I got my PPL and attended instrument ground school through a local university's part 141 program a while back and they used Jeppesen "text books" as the primary ground school teaching materials. The FAA books seemed to used to "supplement" their teaching but they were never used as a primary teaching aid. Not saying there's anything wrong with that but If I'm reading the responses and book list's right it seems that Ari Ben is using the FAA books as their "primary" tools to teach from during ground school and NO "text book" per se .., is that correct? Maybe I just read it wrong.

correct. Think of it this way: you go for your Instrument checkride and the examiner asks you a question, you give him your answer and he asks where you got that information from. You say "Instrument book from JEPP". Problem is, he might not like that. Being he's "associated" with the FAA. he wants to hear "Instrument Flying Handbook". I guess they love that sort of thing.

There are some small, minor differences between Jepp and the FAA.

Word of advice to anyone using NOS charts; STOP!! Or if you do, for money purposes, get some frikin Jepp charts and learn the damn things, if you want to be an airline pilot. I flew with a captain that does some of the interviews for us and she said the thing she hates the most, is when people arent prepared and they say "oh, i dont know the Jepp charts very well, we dont use them". Her idea is, well, you want to work for an airline that solely uses Jepps, you better know them.

[Beechlover]

Thanks Kailua Boy, you answered my question and it definately makes sense! Incidentally, I was born and raised in Hawaii too (Ohau) I lived all over.. Nuuanu, Hawaii Kai, Kapahulu, and Kailua. I am now USAF retired living in OKC, and am about a week away from putting the house on the market and moving to Vero Beach to start at the Aviator. It's been 24 yrs since I moved to the "Mainland" but I still miss the local food. Every couple of months I have to break down and order some Li hing mui from the crackseed center online so I get a little taste of home!
You still at Ari Ben?

[USMC-SGT]

Kailua is an FO on the CRJ at Xjet I believe

[Beechlover]

Originally Posted by USMC-SGT

Kailua is an FO on the CRJ at Xjet I believe

USMC-SGT Copy all thanks, when you coming home?

[MFT1Air]

I went to Kinko's after downloading all the FAA stuff, and I had them "binder" and print all the documents necessary. Twas much less expensive than the purchases anyplace else. I even upgraded paper for more durability and still came out cheaper the "store bought" publications. . .and I don't particularly consider myself a frugal person.