Part 141 Fligih School Locator...

rickyrhodesii · November 27th, 2005, 20:24

Hey all,

I was just wondering if anyone had a website or some easy way to locate Part 141 flight schools. I've tried the yellow pages, Landings.com, justflightschools.com, aviationschoolsonline.com...any other sites or suggestions?

I'm particularly looking for a Part 141 school in the vicinity of Enid, OK.

chibrian79 · November 27th, 2005, 21:38

http://www.ufly.com/cf/fltschool/fltschoolpsrch2.cfm

Good luck.

Brian

chibrian79 · November 27th, 2005, 21:40

I just noticed that search engine isn't very comprehensive based on a search of my area.... Bummer!

JaceTheAce · November 27th, 2005, 22:17

You can try www.beapilot.com. They have a pretty good listing, although it won't say whether they are 61, 141, or both.

rickyrhodesii · November 27th, 2005, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by chibrian79

http://www.ufly.com/cf/fltschool/fltschoolpsrch2.cfm

Good luck.

Brian

Thanks...i'll give that a try

slowandlow · November 28th, 2005, 13:38

Are you asking because of VA benefits? What I did was find all the schools in my area that I was interested in, and then called VA and asked them if a particular school was approved. I have found that to be the easiest way. If not, and you just want to know Part 141, I think that you can do a search on www.faa.gov. Although I don't remember how to do it, or it might be easier to call the school and ask.

rickyrhodesii · November 28th, 2005, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowandlow

Are you asking because of VA benefits? What I did was find all the schools in my area that I was interested in, and then called VA and asked them if a particular school was approved. I have found that to be the easiest way. If not, and you just want to know Part 141, I think that you can do a search on www.faa.gov. Although I don't remember how to do it, or it might be easier to call the school and ask.

Yeah, i'm looking to find the schools that are VA approved. Not to many here in Enid, OK The irony of this is it's located next to Vance AFB...one of the the Air Force's primary pilot training bases...try to figure that one out!

Thanks for your input slowandlow!

khysanth · November 30th, 2005, 22:38

I'm going to sound really dumb for asking this, but as i'm still new to the aviation world, I hope you will all be nice about it.

What is a part 141 school? What are the upsides and downsides to attenting/not attending one? I looked up my school on the first link and they are part 141 and 61 it appears. Are those good things? :P

DE727UPS · December 1st, 2005, 02:01

"I'm going to sound really dumb for asking this, but as i'm still new to the aviation world, I hope you will all be nice about it"

Don't worry about it. Almost everybody here is nice.....

Part 141 is an FAA reg that covers "FAA approved" flight schools. That means the school has to meet certain FAA standards and be inspected by the FAA. They have to use a strict, pre-approved syllabus, and follow it no matter what. Because there is a perceived higher standard, the FAA allows for lower flight times in a few cases.

So far, 141 sounds better, right?

I don't think so.

I've been a CFI since 1980 and have done everything part 61. Part 61 allows you to be flexable. You don't have the FAA looking over your shoulder all the time and forcing you to do this and that. With a competent CFI who knows the system, you'll meet the same standard at the same mins. You'll have the option of doing your writtens self study rather than a formal ground school. You can use a syllabus but deviate from it if necessary. In the end, you have options that aren't allowed under part 141.

Either route you choose, your success is very much dependent on you. Not the system or FAR you train under.

khysanth · December 1st, 2005, 05:03

Ok. According to that website my school has both (Long Beach Flying Club). However, all of their instructors are freelance. So i'm not sure really where I fall under taking instruction from a freelance CFI at this school. I think that they have part 141 classes available to those who want to take them, or something to that effect.

DE727UPS · December 1st, 2005, 13:14

I didn't mean to say a school had to be one or another, though most are. The smaller the school the more likely it will be 61 cause getting 141 takes a lot of time and money. There are some big schools, like DCA, where you can choose which reg works best for you. I don't see why a 141 school couldn't use free lance CFI's. There won't be an advantage to you going 141 out a place like LGB. You're not going to get your PPL in 35 hours vs the 40 hours for 61. Too much complex and busy airspace.

slowandlow · December 1st, 2005, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by khysanth

Ok. According to that website my school has both (Long Beach Flying Club). However, all of their instructors are freelance. So i'm not sure really where I fall under taking instruction from a freelance CFI at this school. I think that they have part 141 classes available to those who want to take them, or something to that effect.

Long Beach flying club is both 141 and 61. Not all instructors can teach under 141, I think because of hour requirements. The reason that I'm flying there is because under part 141 they are approved by Veteran Affairs. So I receive 60% reimbursement from what I pay them. If you go in the school and look on the white board across from the counter, you will see where instructors will sign in and they will put 61 or 61/141 to let new people coming in what under which reg they can teach.

rickyrhodesii · January 14th, 2006, 22:02

This is the best and most up-to-date search engine i ran across. Courtesy of AOPA. The search engine allows you to enter company name, airport name, airport identifier, city, state, and/or zip code.

http://www.aopa.org/learntofly/school/index.cfm

Hope this helps!

November 27th, 2005, 20:24	#1
rickyrhodesii Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southwest Asia... Posts: 406	Part 141 Fligih School Locator... Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone had a website or some easy way to locate Part 141 flight schools. I've tried the yellow pages, Landings.com, justflightschools.com, aviationschoolsonline.com...any other sites or suggestions? I'm particularly looking for a Part 141 school in the vicinity of Enid, OK. __________________ Rick

November 27th, 2005, 21:38	#2
chibrian79 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	Maybe this will work... http://www.ufly.com/cf/fltschool/fltschoolpsrch2.cfm Good luck. Brian

November 27th, 2005, 21:40	#3
chibrian79 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	Me again I just noticed that search engine isn't very comprehensive based on a search of my area.... Bummer!

November 27th, 2005, 22:17	#4
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,547	You can try www.beapilot.com. They have a pretty good listing, although it won't say whether they are 61, 141, or both. __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Join the Impact - Protest Prop 8 on November 15th!

November 28th, 2005, 13:38	#6
slowandlow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So. California (KSLI) Posts: 309	Are you asking because of VA benefits? What I did was find all the schools in my area that I was interested in, and then called VA and asked them if a particular school was approved. I have found that to be the easiest way. If not, and you just want to know Part 141, I think that you can do a search on www.faa.gov. Although I don't remember how to do it, or it might be easier to call the school and ask. __________________ "Air Force Four-Five, it appears your engine has...oh, disregard...I see you've already ejected"

November 30th, 2005, 22:38	#8
khysanth Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 145	I'm going to sound really dumb for asking this, but as i'm still new to the aviation world, I hope you will all be nice about it. What is a part 141 school? What are the upsides and downsides to attenting/not attending one? I looked up my school on the first link and they are part 141 and 61 it appears. Are those good things? :P __________________ Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. - Leonardo da Vinci

December 1st, 2005, 02:01	#9
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	"I'm going to sound really dumb for asking this, but as i'm still new to the aviation world, I hope you will all be nice about it" Don't worry about it. Almost everybody here is nice..... Part 141 is an FAA reg that covers "FAA approved" flight schools. That means the school has to meet certain FAA standards and be inspected by the FAA. They have to use a strict, pre-approved syllabus, and follow it no matter what. Because there is a perceived higher standard, the FAA allows for lower flight times in a few cases. So far, 141 sounds better, right? I don't think so. I've been a CFI since 1980 and have done everything part 61. Part 61 allows you to be flexable. You don't have the FAA looking over your shoulder all the time and forcing you to do this and that. With a competent CFI who knows the system, you'll meet the same standard at the same mins. You'll have the option of doing your writtens self study rather than a formal ground school. You can use a syllabus but deviate from it if necessary. In the end, you have options that aren't allowed under part 141. Either route you choose, your success is very much dependent on you. Not the system or FAR you train under.

December 1st, 2005, 05:03	#10
khysanth Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 145	Ok. According to that website my school has both (Long Beach Flying Club). However, all of their instructors are freelance. So i'm not sure really where I fall under taking instruction from a freelance CFI at this school. I think that they have part 141 classes available to those who want to take them, or something to that effect. __________________ Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. - Leonardo da Vinci

December 1st, 2005, 13:14	#11
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	I didn't mean to say a school had to be one or another, though most are. The smaller the school the more likely it will be 61 cause getting 141 takes a lot of time and money. There are some big schools, like DCA, where you can choose which reg works best for you. I don't see why a 141 school couldn't use free lance CFI's. There won't be an advantage to you going 141 out a place like LGB. You're not going to get your PPL in 35 hours vs the 40 hours for 61. Too much complex and busy airspace.

January 14th, 2006, 22:02	#13
rickyrhodesii Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southwest Asia... Posts: 406	Flight School Locator This is the best and most up-to-date search engine i ran across. Courtesy of AOPA. The search engine allows you to enter company name, airport name, airport identifier, city, state, and/or zip code. http://www.aopa.org/learntofly/school/index.cfm Hope this helps! __________________ Rick

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