Mazzie Flying Service

perpetual · June 21st, 2005, 00:51

Hello everyone.

Can anyone give any details as to the operations of this school? If anyone has personal or direct knowledge of how the training/cost is at Mazzie, any info would be appreciated.

-Perpetual

DE727UPS · June 21st, 2005, 01:07

I know someone who went there a few years ago that was, overall, pleased with his experience. He was a mid-life career changer, went from Mazzi to instruct at ERAU. Went from ERAU to Trans States and may move on to Skywest in the near future.

Have you looked at their website? I've never heard anyone complain about their marketing statemenets...unlike the big three academies.

perpetual · June 21st, 2005, 01:29

Yes'sir I've taken a look at their website and they do seem to be a quality company.

They seem to have everything laid out fairly well and like an academy oriented training-style, yet they hold the fbo nature.

They look interesting.

Thanks for your response
-Perpetual

DE727UPS · June 21st, 2005, 01:52

Where is RKNN? I'm going to guess Kaneda. I've been to RJBB (osaka) and RCTP (taipei).

jdflight · June 21st, 2005, 04:07

There are a few people on here who have first hand knowledge. I was a check instructor there. Photopilot instructed there for a short time, and CaliforniaSurfer was a student there. Feel free to pm me (and I know neither of them would mind, either) with specific questions.

subpilot · July 1st, 2005, 12:41

I am going to begin at Mazzei in about two weeks going through the career pilot course (216). I am going to possibly start a blog about my time there.

DE727UPS · July 1st, 2005, 13:12

I encourage you to do a blog. Mazzi needs more exposure at this site.

BrianNC · July 2nd, 2005, 19:36

[ QUOTE ]
I encourage you to do a blog. Mazzi needs more exposure at this site.

[/ QUOTE ]
I second that.

BrianNC · July 2nd, 2005, 20:20

Just checking their prices. Their course which is basically the same as Ari Ben's is $14,000 more and only 47.5 hrs. is multi time.

subpilot · July 3rd, 2005, 14:07

[ QUOTE ]
Just checking their prices. Their course which is basically the same as Ari Ben's is $14,000 more and only 47.5 hrs. is multi time.

[/ QUOTE ]

The course I am doing is only $36,800 and includes housing for 6 1/2 months, all books, and exams. Since I have VA benefits I will get 60% of that cost back. Ari Ben was number two on my list but with housing, books, and exams not included and the fact that they only subsidize the fuel cost when you fuel up away from their FBO I calculated Ari as costing alot more overall.
I begin the week of 18July and I will do a blog. I wish the admin people would give Mazzei there own forum topic so that my blog would not be hidden under the subject of FBO's (hint, hint). Why does a scam PTF such as TAB airlines get their own forum and then a respectable school such as Mazzei does not?

BrianNC · July 3rd, 2005, 14:09

Looking forward to the blog.

DE727UPS · July 3rd, 2005, 14:54

"Why does a scam PTF such as TAB airlines get their own forum"

I think it's cause Doug thought the level of discussion for TAB years ago called for it's own forum. The level of discussion on Mazzi is next to nothing. Maybe you could change that with your blog? You really want to make a difference? Get Mazzi to pay for a banner ad at jetcareers and put a jetcareers link at their website. That would probably get them their own forum, I would think.

subpilot · July 6th, 2005, 01:33

Got my Key Loan approved today. That was the final box to check off. I hit the road tomorrow from Tacoma, WA to Fresno. The trip should take about two weeks because of a lot of family to visit on the way down. Assuming no car problems I should be starting with Mazzei on schedule. A little background: I spent the past 10 years in the Navy serving on submarines. I got my bachelors degree and private pilot while living in Honolulu, HI two years ago. After moving to the pacific northwest I began Instrument training. The military was interfering with my training (my point of view) and I knew flying was what I wanted to do for a living. After going a few rounds with the Air Force trying to get into UPT (their pilot school) I finally threw in the hat with the military and now here I am. I am 28, have a beatiful and understanding wife, a 3yo boy, and another one on the way. No looking back now.

BrianNC · July 6th, 2005, 07:12

[ QUOTE ]
Got my Key Loan approved today. That was the final box to check off. I hit the road tomorrow from Tacoma, WA to Fresno. The trip should take about two weeks because of a lot of family to visit on the way down. Assuming no car problems I should be starting with Mazzei on schedule. A little background: I spent the past 10 years in the Navy serving on submarines. I got my bachelors degree and private pilot while living in Honolulu, HI two years ago. After moving to the pacific northwest I began Instrument training. The military was interfering with my training (my point of view) and I knew flying was what I wanted to do for a living. After going a few rounds with the Air Force trying to get into UPT (their pilot school) I finally threw in the hat with the military and now here I am. I am 28, have a beatiful and understanding wife, a 3yo boy, and another one on the way. No looking back now.

[/ QUOTE ]
Be sure to do that blog once you get started. We all like to hear about the experiences.

shooter13 · July 7th, 2005, 10:07

Were you a nuke or a cone'r?

Josh · July 8th, 2005, 05:09

mmmm, Fresno. Summer. Thoughts of melting blacktop it is so hot comes to mind.

I try and avoid dual cross country flights to the valley during the summer, and keep things along the coast, so the temps stay under the 90s.

Stop in this way, and get some actual time in if there is fog around. You'll get about 0 actual near FAT unless it is the winter tule fog.

subpilot · July 8th, 2005, 18:27

I was a coner; FT to be exact. I even made chief last year and I still got out. They made 40-50% the past 5 years so it was not a big deal. BTW, to people who were never in the navy... this means nothing to you.

To update my trip. I am in Portland, OR right now and I my truck is smoking pretty bad (I am pulling a 14K 5th wheel) so I am going to have it looked at this weekend. This may delay me a couple days if it is a big repair job. Also, Key bank stated that Mazzei is being cut off the approved school list effective 1Aug so I need to get the loan papers signed, sealed, and delivered by then. No big deal, right? They also said that they are only going to approve 6 more loans for the school and then that is it. A school rep informed me that there are about 7-9 people coming to the school that have there loans still pending. This means that I am officially in a rat race to be one of those final 6 people. Why does a bank say that you are approved, send you the papers to sign, and then say "BTW, you better hurry before someone else beats you to the punch."

shooter13 · July 11th, 2005, 10:20

Congrats on making Chief. Grabo is a chief and will be getting out. I also got out the year I was up for Senior Chief the second time. Congrats also on getting out. I hope the loan works out for you and you can make it work.

TripleSticks · July 11th, 2005, 20:44

It's nice ot see a Mazzie post here. Mazzie was my 2nd choice behind Ari-Ben. I really liked the owner there. He spent quite a bit of time on the phone talking to me. Definitely a no-nonsence type of guy. The program looked really good too. And.... with the housing added in the cost is the same if not cheaper than Ari. The only thing that swung me to Ari was the multitudes of Duchess time.

I think (if I remember correctly) Mazzie will also give you a chance with some students, just like Ari-Ben. That was another big thing on my list and now I'm not even gonna use it because I'm going to instruct at a place in Georgia. It's a sweet deal though. The place has a 135 operation that I can get in to and there's 2 corporate jet headquarters on the field. I'm psyched about that because when I'm not instructing they said they would introduce me to those guys so I could fly right seat in some Citations and Lears.

Good luck and keep the post going on your experience at Mazzie. I'd like to read it as well.

John

subpilot · July 12th, 2005, 21:00

I am now in Eugene, Oregon visiting some family. Plan on continuing my trip this Wednesday or Thursday. I will call on the loan tomorrow. Should be all good. Still on track to arrive in Fresno July 18th. I put some injector cleaner in my truck and it is running much better now. I am very suprised to see so many seasoned navy chiefs getting out before 20. I guess I am just glad to see that I am not the only one. Guys on my boat made me feel like I was making the biggest mistake in the world for getting out. I know there is more to life that what the Navy offers and I am ready to find out. Tell next time.

shooter13 · July 13th, 2005, 09:02

Those guys that told you getting out of the navy was the worst mistake because the civilian world was so bad...have never been in the civilian world.

Grabo172 · July 13th, 2005, 18:01

What'll be real sweet... will be if the 15 yr retirement comes back, and I get a good deal for a change!

But yep, 15 and out. Tired of the "New Navy" and never want to go back out to sea again! (unless I have a Pina Colada in my had while playing Texas Hold'm!)

shooter13 · July 14th, 2005, 09:09

Eric, you in town or on a trip?

Grabo172 · July 15th, 2005, 21:17

On a trip that time yesterday... Back now!

subpilot · July 19th, 2005, 03:22

I made it. I am now in Fresno. Actually I am 30 miles south of Fresno because Fresno is dirty and extremly unsafe for my family. We saw more blue lights flashing in parking lots and low-riders full of Mexicans in the first 20 minutes in town than every before in my life. I stopped into Mazzei and it seemed like a very professional school. The ladies behind the desk were very courteous and the study room for students had a bunch of private cubicals along the wall for self study and then cafeteria style tables in the center for one on one with instructors or other students I suppose. I have my admin checkin tomorrow with their chief pilot.

BTW, the loan went through for me.

Don't know yet if I should be happy for going so far into debt.

June 21st, 2005, 00:51	#1
perpetual Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: RKNN Posts: 185	Mazzie Flying Service Hello everyone. Can anyone give any details as to the operations of this school? If anyone has personal or direct knowledge of how the training/cost is at Mazzie, any info would be appreciated. -Perpetual

June 21st, 2005, 01:07	#2
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Mazzie Flying Service I know someone who went there a few years ago that was, overall, pleased with his experience. He was a mid-life career changer, went from Mazzi to instruct at ERAU. Went from ERAU to Trans States and may move on to Skywest in the near future. Have you looked at their website? I've never heard anyone complain about their marketing statemenets...unlike the big three academies.

June 21st, 2005, 01:29	#3
perpetual Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: RKNN Posts: 185	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Yes'sir I've taken a look at their website and they do seem to be a quality company. They seem to have everything laid out fairly well and like an academy oriented training-style, yet they hold the fbo nature. They look interesting. Thanks for your response -Perpetual

June 21st, 2005, 01:52	#4
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Where is RKNN? I'm going to guess Kaneda. I've been to RJBB (osaka) and RCTP (taipei).

June 21st, 2005, 04:07	#5
jdflight Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO (anywhere but Fresno) Posts: 1,495	Re: Mazzie Flying Service There are a few people on here who have first hand knowledge. I was a check instructor there. Photopilot instructed there for a short time, and CaliforniaSurfer was a student there. Feel free to pm me (and I know neither of them would mind, either) with specific questions.

July 1st, 2005, 12:41	#6
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 766	Re: Mazzie Flying Service I am going to begin at Mazzei in about two weeks going through the career pilot course (216). I am going to possibly start a blog about my time there.

July 1st, 2005, 13:12	#7
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Mazzie Flying Service I encourage you to do a blog. Mazzi needs more exposure at this site.

July 2nd, 2005, 19:36	#8
BrianNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 817	Re: Mazzie Flying Service [ QUOTE ] I encourage you to do a blog. Mazzi needs more exposure at this site. [/ QUOTE ] I second that.

July 2nd, 2005, 20:20	#9
BrianNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 817	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Just checking their prices. Their course which is basically the same as Ari Ben's is $14,000 more and only 47.5 hrs. is multi time.

July 3rd, 2005, 14:07	#10
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 766	Re: Mazzie Flying Service [ QUOTE ] Just checking their prices. Their course which is basically the same as Ari Ben's is $14,000 more and only 47.5 hrs. is multi time. [/ QUOTE ] The course I am doing is only $36,800 and includes housing for 6 1/2 months, all books, and exams. Since I have VA benefits I will get 60% of that cost back. Ari Ben was number two on my list but with housing, books, and exams not included and the fact that they only subsidize the fuel cost when you fuel up away from their FBO I calculated Ari as costing alot more overall. I begin the week of 18July and I will do a blog. I wish the admin people would give Mazzei there own forum topic so that my blog would not be hidden under the subject of FBO's (hint, hint). Why does a scam PTF such as TAB airlines get their own forum and then a respectable school such as Mazzei does not?

July 3rd, 2005, 14:09	#11
BrianNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 817	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Looking forward to the blog.

July 3rd, 2005, 14:54	#12
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,578	Re: Mazzie Flying Service "Why does a scam PTF such as TAB airlines get their own forum" I think it's cause Doug thought the level of discussion for TAB years ago called for it's own forum. The level of discussion on Mazzi is next to nothing. Maybe you could change that with your blog? You really want to make a difference? Get Mazzi to pay for a banner ad at jetcareers and put a jetcareers link at their website. That would probably get them their own forum, I would think.

July 6th, 2005, 01:33	#13
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 766	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Got my Key Loan approved today. That was the final box to check off. I hit the road tomorrow from Tacoma, WA to Fresno. The trip should take about two weeks because of a lot of family to visit on the way down. Assuming no car problems I should be starting with Mazzei on schedule. A little background: I spent the past 10 years in the Navy serving on submarines. I got my bachelors degree and private pilot while living in Honolulu, HI two years ago. After moving to the pacific northwest I began Instrument training. The military was interfering with my training (my point of view) and I knew flying was what I wanted to do for a living. After going a few rounds with the Air Force trying to get into UPT (their pilot school) I finally threw in the hat with the military and now here I am. I am 28, have a beatiful and understanding wife, a 3yo boy, and another one on the way. No looking back now.

July 6th, 2005, 07:12	#14
BrianNC Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 817	Re: Mazzie Flying Service [ QUOTE ] Got my Key Loan approved today. That was the final box to check off. I hit the road tomorrow from Tacoma, WA to Fresno. The trip should take about two weeks because of a lot of family to visit on the way down. Assuming no car problems I should be starting with Mazzei on schedule. A little background: I spent the past 10 years in the Navy serving on submarines. I got my bachelors degree and private pilot while living in Honolulu, HI two years ago. After moving to the pacific northwest I began Instrument training. The military was interfering with my training (my point of view) and I knew flying was what I wanted to do for a living. After going a few rounds with the Air Force trying to get into UPT (their pilot school) I finally threw in the hat with the military and now here I am. I am 28, have a beatiful and understanding wife, a 3yo boy, and another one on the way. No looking back now. [/ QUOTE ] Be sure to do that blog once you get started. We all like to hear about the experiences.

July 7th, 2005, 10:07	#15
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Were you a nuke or a cone'r?

July 8th, 2005, 05:09	#16
Josh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, California Posts: 686	Re: Mazzie Flying Service mmmm, Fresno. Summer. Thoughts of melting blacktop it is so hot comes to mind. I try and avoid dual cross country flights to the valley during the summer, and keep things along the coast, so the temps stay under the 90s. Stop in this way, and get some actual time in if there is fog around. You'll get about 0 actual near FAT unless it is the winter tule fog.

July 8th, 2005, 18:27	#17
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 766	Re: Mazzie Flying Service I was a coner; FT to be exact. I even made chief last year and I still got out. They made 40-50% the past 5 years so it was not a big deal. BTW, to people who were never in the navy... this means nothing to you. To update my trip. I am in Portland, OR right now and I my truck is smoking pretty bad (I am pulling a 14K 5th wheel) so I am going to have it looked at this weekend. This may delay me a couple days if it is a big repair job. Also, Key bank stated that Mazzei is being cut off the approved school list effective 1Aug so I need to get the loan papers signed, sealed, and delivered by then. No big deal, right? They also said that they are only going to approve 6 more loans for the school and then that is it. A school rep informed me that there are about 7-9 people coming to the school that have there loans still pending. This means that I am officially in a rat race to be one of those final 6 people. Why does a bank say that you are approved, send you the papers to sign, and then say "BTW, you better hurry before someone else beats you to the punch."

July 11th, 2005, 10:20	#18
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Congrats on making Chief. Grabo is a chief and will be getting out. I also got out the year I was up for Senior Chief the second time. Congrats also on getting out. I hope the loan works out for you and you can make it work.

July 11th, 2005, 20:44	#19
TripleSticks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 259	Re: Mazzie Flying Service It's nice ot see a Mazzie post here. Mazzie was my 2nd choice behind Ari-Ben. I really liked the owner there. He spent quite a bit of time on the phone talking to me. Definitely a no-nonsence type of guy. The program looked really good too. And.... with the housing added in the cost is the same if not cheaper than Ari. The only thing that swung me to Ari was the multitudes of Duchess time. I think (if I remember correctly) Mazzie will also give you a chance with some students, just like Ari-Ben. That was another big thing on my list and now I'm not even gonna use it because I'm going to instruct at a place in Georgia. It's a sweet deal though. The place has a 135 operation that I can get in to and there's 2 corporate jet headquarters on the field. I'm psyched about that because when I'm not instructing they said they would introduce me to those guys so I could fly right seat in some Citations and Lears. Good luck and keep the post going on your experience at Mazzie. I'd like to read it as well. John

July 12th, 2005, 21:00	#20
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 766	Re: Mazzie Flying Service I am now in Eugene, Oregon visiting some family. Plan on continuing my trip this Wednesday or Thursday. I will call on the loan tomorrow. Should be all good. Still on track to arrive in Fresno July 18th. I put some injector cleaner in my truck and it is running much better now. I am very suprised to see so many seasoned navy chiefs getting out before 20. I guess I am just glad to see that I am not the only one. Guys on my boat made me feel like I was making the biggest mistake in the world for getting out. I know there is more to life that what the Navy offers and I am ready to find out. Tell next time.

July 13th, 2005, 09:02	#21
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Those guys that told you getting out of the navy was the worst mistake because the civilian world was so bad...have never been in the civilian world.

July 13th, 2005, 18:01	#22
Grabo172 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Peterborough, NH Posts: 1,284	Re: Mazzie Flying Service What'll be real sweet... will be if the 15 yr retirement comes back, and I get a good deal for a change! But yep, 15 and out. Tired of the "New Navy" and never want to go back out to sea again! (unless I have a Pina Colada in my had while playing Texas Hold'm!)

July 14th, 2005, 09:09	#23
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: Mazzie Flying Service Eric, you in town or on a trip?

July 15th, 2005, 21:17	#24
Grabo172 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Peterborough, NH Posts: 1,284	Re: Mazzie Flying Service On a trip that time yesterday... Back now!

July 19th, 2005, 03:22	#25
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 766	Re: Mazzie Flying Service I made it. I am now in Fresno. Actually I am 30 miles south of Fresno because Fresno is dirty and extremly unsafe for my family. We saw more blue lights flashing in parking lots and low-riders full of Mexicans in the first 20 minutes in town than every before in my life. I stopped into Mazzei and it seemed like a very professional school. The ladies behind the desk were very courteous and the study room for students had a bunch of private cubicals along the wall for self study and then cafeteria style tables in the center for one on one with instructors or other students I suppose. I have my admin checkin tomorrow with their chief pilot. BTW, the loan went through for me. Don't know yet if I should be happy for going so far into debt.

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