Wives

pkloop · February 3rd, 2004, 18:04

Well if you have one how are they?

SteveC · February 3rd, 2004, 18:22

My first wife's a keeper!

Tokyo007 · February 3rd, 2004, 19:11

good topic..

I broke up with my gf ages ago.. hurt pretty badly but after a few months I realized that not only was she 'not the one' but she never really did like my idea of my dream job career move.. "international airline captian".. so it was just as well.. she would have never supported me in the move.. I know you have to make sacrafices but if this is one goal you really want to do in this life...

so my question for you guys who are married: were your wives totally supportive from the get-go? Did it take some time or what happened? I went on a date with this girl recently and I told her what I was trying to get into and she just yawned and said "B-O-R-I-N-G"

(major turn-off)

Matthew

stuckingfk · February 3rd, 2004, 20:35

I have a question for everyone here and this is the perfect post to do it.

What does everything think of a prenup? The terms to a prenup can be pretty much anything, and here are mine. My wife doesn't get squat unless I cheat. The reason for this, as a pilot I plan on being gone a lot, and this seems to be a big problem for many former wives.

comments?

FL270 · February 3rd, 2004, 20:58

My personal opinion is that if you think you need a prenup, then you probably need to reconsider getting married in the first place, because there's a serious trust issue present.

I'm not married, but my current GF is marriage material ... we'd likely be cohabiting if not for the minor little annoyance that my job is in NC and her grad school is in Houston! She loves to travel, and is understanding of my career choice ... though she's not completely thrilled with the schedule (I don't think ANY pilot's spouse ever is). Her only stipulation is that she wants to live in Texas ... not a big deal because I really want to move back there too, and I'm willing to commute to do it, although a Texas-based corporate job or an airline with TX domiciles would be preferable to a lifetime of commuting! Plus, not paying state income tax is a nice bonus, especially if we're talking regional FO wages.

A buddy of mine who is an ACA captain once told me, "Most pilots wind up living wherever HER family lives." In his case, truer words were never spoken ... he moved to rural Alabama at his SO's request!

To me, I think having a person who is independent and can handle the household while you're gone is important. Ideally s/he would have a portable career ... my GF is in social services, and (other than licensing/certification hassles) there is a demand for people in that field everywhere. That way, if a move (or multiple moves) are in the cards, s/he won't be toast job-wise if you get transferred from Nome to Key West. A high trust factor is a must, given that opportunity (in the form of hotel rooms in strange cities, etc.) for infidelity is certainly present.

FL270

Kristie · February 3rd, 2004, 21:13

[ QUOTE ]
I have a question for everyone here and this is the perfect post to do it.

What does everything think of a prenup? The terms to a prenup can be pretty much anything, and here are mine. My wife doesn't get squat unless I cheat. The reason for this, as a pilot I plan on being gone a lot, and this seems to be a big problem for many former wives.

comments?

[/ QUOTE ] you mean - everyone?

and what if she cheats? are you & her expecting some cheating to go on? gotta remember that most airline relationships break up because of money issues.. loneliness is 2nd and cheating is 3rd.

Doug and I talked prenup for a while and we came to the conclusion that a prenup is "the beginning of the end"... if you can't trust your spouse, you shouldn't be getting married. but again, that's just our opinion.... you have to make up your own.
[ QUOTE ]
A high trust factor is a must, given that opportunity (in the form of hotel rooms in strange cities, etc.) for infidelity is certainly present.

[/ QUOTE ] yea, but keep in mind that infidelity happens in all situations... it seems that it's more available because of the traveling but in fact, it's not considered more prevailent from any other job out there, from what I know....
[ QUOTE ]
so my question for you guys who are married: were your wives totally supportive from the get-go?

[/ QUOTE ] I'll let doug talk about that cuz i'm biased! hahaha

TheShortOne · February 3rd, 2004, 21:33

hey, FL270, how did your gf get into the social services stuff and what does she actually do? That's kind of where I'm leaning towards and although i have my ideas about what goes on in the "real world" i don't really know, most people just tell me its a lot of paperwork. what did she get her degree(s) in? has she done any internship or job type of stuff that made her think about this as a career?

thanks!

Hollywood · February 3rd, 2004, 22:20

if i ever get married i won't worry about a pre-nup. i'm so far in debt i might cheat on her just so she'll divorce me. she can take half of that with her too.

FL270 · February 3rd, 2004, 22:21

Skibum ... remind me and I'll tell you all about her situation over our apres-ski cocktails in Utah. Too much to type!

Russ

mtsu_av8er · February 3rd, 2004, 22:24

[ QUOTE ]
if i ever get married i won't worry about a pre-nup. i'm so far in debt i might cheat on her just so she'll divorce me. she can take half of that with her too.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's what I say about identity thieves - take it if you want it!!!

TheWife · February 3rd, 2004, 23:32

Do you have enough money worth protecting with a prenup? Cause other wise what's the point? I would have said no to a prenup until I saw Intolerable Cruelty.

Mr_Creepy · February 4th, 2004, 07:53

Starving Pilots do not need prenuptial agreements LOL!

johnbail · February 4th, 2004, 10:05

I could not afford to pay someone to do all the things my wife dose for me. Of coruse if I did pay I wold not be naged so much

shooter13 · February 5th, 2004, 07:54

My opinion of prenups is that they are the smart thing to do for both parties if...you have any real possessions. I feel if you split up, whatever you have from the time you were married should be spilt by you both. I didn't even consider a prenup when I got hitched because there isn't a lot she could take except my dog and that would just mean war!!!

ready2fly · February 5th, 2004, 09:52

Not sure where the original question was going, but I'll add my $0.02.

My wife is the best thing that has ever happened in my life. She is not only my "soulmate", she literally IS my best friend. She picks up on details that I would usually miss and vica versa.

She is 100% supportive of my pursuit of a career in aviation because she knows that this is something I LOVE to do and something that I have great interest in. My job now is hell because I absolutely hate what I am doing. Believe me, she wants me to be happy!

She doesn't like to fly. It scares her. So, that's not something we have in common, but the beautiful part of that is that you don't HAVE to have everything in common.

As for prenups? FL270 hit the nail on the head - if you think you need one, you need to reconsider if you want to marry that person becuase there are some SERIOUS issues to consider.

Luckily for me, neither one of us had anything worth a crap when we met.

Omdahl · February 5th, 2004, 12:30

A prenup shouldn't be necessary if you have trust in the relationship. I know that being gone can put hardships on a relationship so maybe the spouse needs to actually experience what it is gonna be like before you marry them. That way the person knows exactly how it is. If there are any issues about trust and loneliness than rethinking the relationship is a good idea.

MikeD · February 6th, 2004, 09:21

Men and women shouldn't be together for more than one night at a time.

Tim · February 6th, 2004, 14:15

John think about it you really do pay for what all you wife does...you just dont send the check out monthly like a car payment...haha...

EatSleepFly · February 6th, 2004, 16:24

[ QUOTE ]
Men and women shouldn't be together for more than one night at a time.

[/ QUOTE ]

I tried that line on one of my ex girlfriends once. She hit me.

rausda27 · February 6th, 2004, 16:34

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Men and women shouldn't be together for more than one night at a time.

[/ QUOTE ]

I tried that line on one of my ex girlfriends once. She hit me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did it hurt?

FL270 · February 6th, 2004, 16:46

Denis Leary once said that the secret to a happy relationship was, "love, honor, and stay the ###### away from each other! Have separate bedrooms. Come out for an hour, eat, talk, ######, then go back to your separate rooms!"

I don't know about all that, but I have reached the conclusion that separate bathrooms and separate checkbooks do make a big difference!

FL270

Ryan110175 · February 6th, 2004, 22:39

Absolutely FL 270! My wife and I have seperate bank accounts and usually sleep in different beds. Having seperate bank accounts avoids financial fights, and well sleeping seperate isn't intenional, but when she snoars, I usually wake up in a different room. Don't mean to, just happens that way.

Grumpy01 · February 7th, 2004, 09:38

I've had mine for 35 years. Still don't know enough to give advise on the subject.

Will say tho, It would be awful lonely without her.

Kristie · February 7th, 2004, 12:23

35 years? that's AWESOME!!!

EatSleepFly · February 7th, 2004, 13:42

My great-great uncle and aunt celebrated their 62nd wedding anniversary this past year.

She's not doing so well lately though...

February 3rd, 2004, 18:04	#1
pkloop Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 284	Wives Well if you have one how are they?

February 3rd, 2004, 18:22	#2
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,364	Re: Wives My first wife's a keeper!

February 3rd, 2004, 19:11	#3
Tokyo007 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 262	Re: Wives good topic.. I broke up with my gf ages ago.. hurt pretty badly but after a few months I realized that not only was she 'not the one' but she never really did like my idea of my dream job career move.. "international airline captian".. so it was just as well.. she would have never supported me in the move.. I know you have to make sacrafices but if this is one goal you really want to do in this life... so my question for you guys who are married: were your wives totally supportive from the get-go? Did it take some time or what happened? I went on a date with this girl recently and I told her what I was trying to get into and she just yawned and said "B-O-R-I-N-G" (major turn-off) Matthew

February 3rd, 2004, 20:35	#4
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,547	Re: Wives I have a question for everyone here and this is the perfect post to do it. What does everything think of a prenup? The terms to a prenup can be pretty much anything, and here are mine. My wife doesn't get squat unless I cheat. The reason for this, as a pilot I plan on being gone a lot, and this seems to be a big problem for many former wives. comments?

February 3rd, 2004, 20:58	#5
FL270 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,101	Re: Wives My personal opinion is that if you think you need a prenup, then you probably need to reconsider getting married in the first place, because there's a serious trust issue present. I'm not married, but my current GF is marriage material ... we'd likely be cohabiting if not for the minor little annoyance that my job is in NC and her grad school is in Houston! She loves to travel, and is understanding of my career choice ... though she's not completely thrilled with the schedule (I don't think ANY pilot's spouse ever is). Her only stipulation is that she wants to live in Texas ... not a big deal because I really want to move back there too, and I'm willing to commute to do it, although a Texas-based corporate job or an airline with TX domiciles would be preferable to a lifetime of commuting! Plus, not paying state income tax is a nice bonus, especially if we're talking regional FO wages. A buddy of mine who is an ACA captain once told me, "Most pilots wind up living wherever HER family lives." In his case, truer words were never spoken ... he moved to rural Alabama at his SO's request! To me, I think having a person who is independent and can handle the household while you're gone is important. Ideally s/he would have a portable career ... my GF is in social services, and (other than licensing/certification hassles) there is a demand for people in that field everywhere. That way, if a move (or multiple moves) are in the cards, s/he won't be toast job-wise if you get transferred from Nome to Key West. A high trust factor is a must, given that opportunity (in the form of hotel rooms in strange cities, etc.) for infidelity is certainly present. FL270

February 3rd, 2004, 21:13	#6
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wives [ QUOTE ] I have a question for everyone here and this is the perfect post to do it. What does everything think of a prenup? The terms to a prenup can be pretty much anything, and here are mine. My wife doesn't get squat unless I cheat. The reason for this, as a pilot I plan on being gone a lot, and this seems to be a big problem for many former wives. comments? [/ QUOTE ] you mean - everyone? and what if she cheats? are you & her expecting some cheating to go on? gotta remember that most airline relationships break up because of money issues.. loneliness is 2nd and cheating is 3rd. Doug and I talked prenup for a while and we came to the conclusion that a prenup is "the beginning of the end"... if you can't trust your spouse, you shouldn't be getting married. but again, that's just our opinion.... you have to make up your own. [ QUOTE ] A high trust factor is a must, given that opportunity (in the form of hotel rooms in strange cities, etc.) for infidelity is certainly present. [/ QUOTE ] yea, but keep in mind that infidelity happens in all situations... it seems that it's more available because of the traveling but in fact, it's not considered more prevailent from any other job out there, from what I know.... [ QUOTE ] so my question for you guys who are married: were your wives totally supportive from the get-go? [/ QUOTE ] I'll let doug talk about that cuz i'm biased! hahaha

February 3rd, 2004, 21:33	#7
TheShortOne Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 3,293	Re: Wives hey, FL270, how did your gf get into the social services stuff and what does she actually do? That's kind of where I'm leaning towards and although i have my ideas about what goes on in the "real world" i don't really know, most people just tell me its a lot of paperwork. what did she get her degree(s) in? has she done any internship or job type of stuff that made her think about this as a career? thanks!

February 3rd, 2004, 22:20	#8
Hollywood Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: florida Posts: 286	Re: Wives if i ever get married i won't worry about a pre-nup. i'm so far in debt i might cheat on her just so she'll divorce me. she can take half of that with her too.

February 3rd, 2004, 22:21	#9
FL270 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,101	Re: Wives Skibum ... remind me and I'll tell you all about her situation over our apres-ski cocktails in Utah. Too much to type! Russ

February 3rd, 2004, 22:24	#10
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,403	Re: Wives [ QUOTE ] if i ever get married i won't worry about a pre-nup. i'm so far in debt i might cheat on her just so she'll divorce me. she can take half of that with her too. [/ QUOTE ] That's what I say about identity thieves - take it if you want it!!!

February 3rd, 2004, 23:32	#11
TheWife Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 4,180	Re: Wives Do you have enough money worth protecting with a prenup? Cause other wise what's the point? I would have said no to a prenup until I saw Intolerable Cruelty.

February 4th, 2004, 07:53	#12
Mr_Creepy Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone Posts: 5,807	Re: Wives Starving Pilots do not need prenuptial agreements LOL!

February 4th, 2004, 10:05	#13
johnbail Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 77	Re: Wives I could not afford to pay someone to do all the things my wife dose for me. Of coruse if I did pay I wold not be naged so much

February 5th, 2004, 07:54	#14
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: Wives My opinion of prenups is that they are the smart thing to do for both parties if...you have any real possessions. I feel if you split up, whatever you have from the time you were married should be spilt by you both. I didn't even consider a prenup when I got hitched because there isn't a lot she could take except my dog and that would just mean war!!!

February 5th, 2004, 09:52	#15
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,080	Re: Wives Not sure where the original question was going, but I'll add my $0.02. My wife is the best thing that has ever happened in my life. She is not only my "soulmate", she literally IS my best friend. She picks up on details that I would usually miss and vica versa. She is 100% supportive of my pursuit of a career in aviation because she knows that this is something I LOVE to do and something that I have great interest in. My job now is hell because I absolutely hate what I am doing. Believe me, she wants me to be happy! She doesn't like to fly. It scares her. So, that's not something we have in common, but the beautiful part of that is that you don't HAVE to have everything in common. As for prenups? FL270 hit the nail on the head - if you think you need one, you need to reconsider if you want to marry that person becuase there are some SERIOUS issues to consider. Luckily for me, neither one of us had anything worth a crap when we met.

February 5th, 2004, 12:30	#16
Omdahl Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 81	Re: Wives A prenup shouldn't be necessary if you have trust in the relationship. I know that being gone can put hardships on a relationship so maybe the spouse needs to actually experience what it is gonna be like before you marry them. That way the person knows exactly how it is. If there are any issues about trust and loneliness than rethinking the relationship is a good idea.

February 6th, 2004, 09:21	#17
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Wives Men and women shouldn't be together for more than one night at a time.

February 6th, 2004, 14:15	#18
Tim Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,205	Re: Wives John think about it you really do pay for what all you wife does...you just dont send the check out monthly like a car payment...haha...

February 6th, 2004, 16:24	#19
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Wives [ QUOTE ] Men and women shouldn't be together for more than one night at a time. [/ QUOTE ] I tried that line on one of my ex girlfriends once. She hit me.

February 6th, 2004, 16:34	#20
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,230	Re: Wives [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Men and women shouldn't be together for more than one night at a time. [/ QUOTE ] I tried that line on one of my ex girlfriends once. She hit me. [/ QUOTE ] Did it hurt?

February 6th, 2004, 16:46	#21
FL270 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,101	Re: Wives Denis Leary once said that the secret to a happy relationship was, "love, honor, and stay the ###### away from each other! Have separate bedrooms. Come out for an hour, eat, talk, ######, then go back to your separate rooms!" I don't know about all that, but I have reached the conclusion that separate bathrooms and separate checkbooks do make a big difference! FL270

February 6th, 2004, 22:39	#22
Ryan110175 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 91	Re: Wives Absolutely FL 270! My wife and I have seperate bank accounts and usually sleep in different beds. Having seperate bank accounts avoids financial fights, and well sleeping seperate isn't intenional, but when she snoars, I usually wake up in a different room. Don't mean to, just happens that way.

February 7th, 2004, 09:38	#23
Grumpy01 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 146	Re: Wives I've had mine for 35 years. Still don't know enough to give advise on the subject. Will say tho, It would be awful lonely without her.

February 7th, 2004, 12:23	#24
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,706 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wives 35 years? that's AWESOME!!!

February 7th, 2004, 13:42	#25
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Wives My great-great uncle and aunt celebrated their 62nd wedding anniversary this past year. She's not doing so well lately though...

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