Engagement Dilemma

[Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by Kristie

What makes 35 any different from 30?

35, you're more set in your ways than you were at 30 (more difficult to handle "change"), it's more difficult to conceive if you plan on having children and you've missed out on 5 years of joint taxes (which can, if you do it right, save some $$) plus you might have your own home by then which you'd have to sell and a whole other slew of problems.

at 30, you're definitely more mature and ready/apt to relax than in your 20's...but i didn't see a huge difference between 30 and 35.

so what's the difference?

I didn't know Winnie at 30 . . . I married her at 35

[Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by atpwannabe

Wait till you hear my story:

Bought an engagement ring back on 3/31/08 for my g/f. Now she is my fiance. About a week or so later, I'm in the Palm Beach Gardens Mall having to buy ring guards. No problem. While at work, put ring that's still in case in my mid console in my car. Take it out when I get home from work. Go out that night and get snockered.

Wake up the next morning and forget that I took the ring out of the car and put it away. I'm freaking out. Call my fiance and tell her I lost the ring. Two weeks later, which is tonight, 4/25/08 at about 9:30pm, I find the ring. Call her and let her know that I found the ring. What did I do....

went out and got snockered!!!!


Yeah BABy!!!!!!!!!!!!!



atp

However old you are . . . wait 5 more years!!!

[SeatClutcher]

Originally Posted by flyguy

But now that I'm in this industry I see a lot of temptation that pilots (and their wives at home) are faced with, and it takes a certain maturity to overcome all that.

Oooh - if Ian gets into flying regionals and such I'll be tempted? By what, pray tell? Or better, by whom? (And how is it different from what people working at other jobs are tempted by?)

[Qgar]

You know, there's temptation at every job, the big difference at the airlines is the layover factor. I've heard that SWA and UAL separate the pilots and FA's. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. If people are going to "hook up," separation isn't going to stop it. It's not like they don't know where the other group is staying. I'd like to think we're all adults and if crews are going to fool around, it's going to happen, no matter what.

[MQAAord]

Lots of people in other industries go on business trips with their co-workers too. Staying in the same hotels and everything.

There's availability to cheat everywhere at every job.

Several of my neighbors have husbands who are in sales and they are gone as often as Bill is. They travel with co-workers, and go to conventions with co-workers. The wives are at home alone, just like I am, for as long as I am.

I've said it on jetgirls (and they didn't want to hear it there either), and I'll say it here: a person's job doesn't make them cheat. There are many factors that contribute, and distance may be one of them, BUT distance, travel, hotels and "opportunity" are hardly a monopoly of the airline industry.

Iain, I'm sorry your thread's been hijacked! I hope you've come to a resolution of your situation.

[Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by MQAAord

Iain, I'm sorry your thread's been hijacked! I hope you've come to a resolution of your situation.

. . . and I for one am interested in how you handle this one. It sounds like a bit of a delicate negotiation.

[akrand]

Originally Posted by flyguy

P.S.

I'm soooooooooo never going to marry a flight attendant, nor do I recommend it.

Never say never. I'm a former FA and we are not all bad by any means. But, my husband flys for the same airline as you and he has told me stories about how some of the FA's are young and pretty much experiencing life on their own for the first time so they are going wild. There are plenty out there that are not wild and young. I could say to girls to never marry a pilot. I've had some hit on me an entire 4 day trip. But, the jerks didn't tarnish my opinion of all pilots b/c you'll find those types of guys anywhere in any job. You never know, your future wife could a FA right now.

[akrand]

Originally Posted by MQAAord

Lots of people in other industries go on business trips with their co-workers too. Staying in the same hotels and everything.

There's availability to cheat everywhere at every job.

Several of my neighbors have husbands who are in sales and they are gone as often as Bill is. They travel with co-workers, and go to conventions with co-workers. The wives are at home alone, just like I am, for as long as I am.

I've said it on jetgirls (and they didn't want to hear it there either), and I'll say it here: a person's job doesn't make them cheat. There are many factors that contribute, and distance may be one of them, BUT distance, travel, hotels and "opportunity" are hardly a monopoly of the airline industry.

Iain, I'm sorry your thread's been hijacked! I hope you've come to a resolution of your situation.

Thank you. I totally agree with that. My husband and his FO go chewed out by their FA all b/c they are married pilots. He thinks that she was dating some pilot and he cheated on her or something b/c she thinks that that all pilot will cheat on their S/O. But I think that if a person is going to cheat, they will cheat no matter what their job is.


Yes, I'm also sorry our post has been hijacked. I too hope you come to a resolution and congrats on your engagement.

[flyguy]

Originally Posted by akrand

You never know, your future wife could a FA right now.

Oh God!!! That gives me the chills.


Iain, I'd suggest either planning to do it at the same time, or do it on your own and wait to announce it until the timing is right.

[Qgar]

WOW!!!! At 28 years old, I would think you'd be smart enough to not make the outrageous generalizations you did! How do you know SkyWest has the most promiscuous FA's? Have you polled pilots at alllllll the other airlines in the country? My God, there is so much wrong about what you wrote, I don't even know where to start -- so I won't. Suffice it to say, you are WAY off base!

[flyguy]

Alright, I just re-read my post and just realized how arrogant that made me sound. And I want to apoligize if I offended anyone.

I should probably explain that I have had very bad luck with FAs in the past. So my opinions are probably a bit biassed, and again I apoligize.

[Qgar]

Apology accepted! See who said pilots and FA's can't get along?

[MQAAord]

Originally Posted by flyguy

Alright, I just re-read my post and just realized how arrogant that made me sound. And I want to apoligize if I offended anyone.

I should probably explain that I have had very bad luck with FAs in the past. So my opinions are probably a bit biassed, and again I apoligize.

Just as my ears started smoking I read the above.

Thank you.



I understand where you're coming from, and I am very sorry you have had the experience you have.

In my time (7 years) at Eagle and AA I can say my experiences and observations were different than yours. Bill will say his experiences and observations that span 14 years and 4 airlines are different too.

No worries, okay.

[Maurus]

Originally Posted by I_Money

So my gf and I have been dating for 14 months, and have lived together for almost 10. From very early on, we both knew we were meant to be together, but said we would get engaged after our one year anniversary. Over the past month we have been looking at rings, I have been planning on how I am going to propose, both of us are very excited about getting engaged.

Well she has a brother, he is 5 years older than her, and has been dating his girlfriend for 9 years. They own a house together, and are practically married, they just never got around to the formalities.

Well we learnt he is going to pop the big question in the next couple of months - the motivation is he does not want us to get engaged first. We are very pleased for them, and know the family will be delighted he is doing this, however if we do it soon after they will be disapointed at us for stealing the glory.

We don't want to two engagements in such a short period of time, as I am sure they don't but what are we meant to do? Should we wait 3 months after theirs? 6? I had promised my gf a ring before she went to Africa this summer? Plan with her bro, to both do it on the same day?

I am not sure what is happening about the weddings yet either -

Any advice? Get her pregnant then they will be eager for us to tie the knot?

Man her knowing you are both going to get engaged kinda takes the fun out of it. Not even worth hiding the ring.

[mrivc211]

He got married? What a loooooser! Who gets married? Maaaaaaaaa f'ing meatloaf!

[Velocipede]

I agree with the ladies on this one. If someone is going to be unfaithful, they'll find a way.

And as far as not dating F/As...my best advice: Don't date one from YOUR airline. Because if it goes sideways, you not only have to deal with her, you have to deal with her friends.

I had an F/O once who had a messy divorce from one of our F/As. That poor bastige got treated like crap by over half the F/As at the airline because she went out of her way to make sure they all knew what an icehole he was.

He went about 3 years getting crapped on until the collective finally let him off the hook. Of course, he had to change bases to get away from them.

Sad.

NEVER fish off the Company pier!