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Old June 14th, 2007, 15:35   #1
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So, there is a little Girl that’s about 8 years old, she lives down the street from me, And sheeeee’s a SNOT!! She is so mean to my 4 year old, he'll just be outside hanging out with his friends doing what 4 yr old's do. Anyway, she’ll come by and steal his toy’s, she took his Spiderman Razor Scooter and broke it, she'll call him names and threaten to have bigger kids beat him up, she’s basically the neighbor-hood bully. Everyday when I get home from work my wife tells me the crap she’s had to deal with concerning this little girl. I have spoken to her parents many times, all I get is “Kids will be kids” My thoughts, Excuse me; my kids can’t be kids with your damn kid causing these problems. I have approached the mom and dad very professional and nice to let them know of the problem, and its not just me, I have spoken to a few of my neighbors and they have similar issues.

So today, she comes over and tells my son Jaxon, that she’ll be nice and wont have kids beat him up, as long as she gets to ride his bike, scooters, and gets popsicles from him. So my kid, being the innocent, nice kid he is, came in-side all happy about this bribe. (He loves having friends) So I go out-side to check things out, and say you have your own toys these are Jaxons if you want to ride your own bike that’s fine, but you’re not allowed to play w/ my son, or ride his toys. She says, well I told Jaxon he has to let me so he does and blah blah. I know she’s only 8, I am just looking for some advice as to how to handle this dysfunctional conflict with out causing more issues. There is nothing more than I hate when people are taking, gossiping, spreading roomers, and someone’s business is everyone’s business. I am just fed up with it.
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Old June 14th, 2007, 15:43   #2
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Is it illegal to pull a gun on a kid that comes on to your property? That would probaby keep her from coming back.

Seriously, though - maybe you could get a restraining order on behalf of your son - make it illegal for the kid to come within X feet of your property. Hell, you could even have a lawyer threaten her parents with it if they don't act. You would hope the parents would take care of it on their own, but this is America I guess.
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I was a ##### growing up myself. I used to fight with a kid down the street until his parents told me to not step on their property again. Kind of hard to fight with someone if you can't see them. Maybe you should ignore this little brat and let her know in no uncertain terms she is no longer welcome.
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Old June 14th, 2007, 15:51   #4
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buy a dog and have it bark and snap at her.
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Old June 14th, 2007, 15:55   #5
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I just told her 10 minutes ago to go home, and that she is not welcome on/around my property. She gave me the finger!!. If she does anything more, I’ll have my good friend who is at an internship at the Attorney State General’s office send a letter. I am not sure what department or section he is in, but getting a letter the ASG office about the complaint should help, if he can do that. But seriously, I’m about to go by a mean looking pit-bull and chain it up out front. Hehehe
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Dude, what does an 8 year old know about Attorney Generals or anything else. Raise your voice, be a man and protect your child.
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I did raise my voice when I told her to go home…. The letter would go to her parents, not her.. haha… I’m not that stupid, her parents are responsible for their kid’s actions, and they are legally liable for anything she does that hurts my son, or destroys any property. And I have to be careful because I could get into trouble for “assaulting” a child. I’m the adult, so anything I could do, yelling, may seem threatening, etc etc.. Will not be tolerated by any court, because I am the adult and should have ability to control my self. So I have to watch what I say/do to her.
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buy the dog. go to the pound find the meanest thing there and chain it to the fence. or better yet put an electrical fence up. im bored sorry. the letter will do fine.
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And the last thing I need is any type of complaint, or be accused/found guilty of an assault against a child. How would the Airlines like that on my background check.. not so much.
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buy the dog. go to the pound find the meanest thing there and chain it to the fence. or better yet put an electrical fence up. im bored sorry. the letter will do fine.

Thats awesome, one of those cow fences with a 10 volt charge would keep her away lol nice!
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Get remote controlled sprinklers. Anytime she's around, turn them onto full blast.
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Yup. You are between a rock and a hard place. It's not your place to discipline the girl (that whole "It takes a village to raise a child" has been irradicated by attorneys).

It is, however, your place to protect YOUR child from this girl. You did the correct thing by speaking to her parents.

You've also done the correct thing by telling her to buzz off.

Now, my next suggestion is to have your kids play in a place that is off limits/inaccessible to her.

If that's not an option, and she returns - speak to her parents again. If you get non-compliance - inform them that the next vulgar gesture their daughter displays in front of your child will result in you calling the police on THEM.

After all - the girl didn't learn the finger from you, now did she?

Play hard ball, bro. This is your son.
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...teach your son to assert himself!
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You've just put together a script for the blockbuster comedy of next year starring:

You: Ray Ramano
8-year old: Dakota Fanning
Her dad: Tony Stewart (as in the NASCAR driver)
Your wife: The mom from Little Miss Sunshine
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matt he is 4!
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Just got off the phone with my friend, he said he can write a letter to them explaining the laws regarding the responsibilities that parents have with their kids. The letter would include laws and regulations regarding their children that are under 18, and under 25 if still living at home, things on how they would be reasonable for theft, damage of property, and any type of bodily harm caused by their child to another. There are serious consequences for parents who do not curb their childs actions, starting with misdemeanors, all the way up to felony charges.

Secondly, as far is having my child play somewhere that would be inaccessible to her would be locking my kids in the back yard. And to me, that’s unfair to my child and his friends who enjoy riding their bikes and scooters, we have an elementary that is right a crossed the street that runs parallel to our house. The school has a public playground for kids, and my son loves to go play on it with his friends. She should be the one locked in the backyard.
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Just got of the phone with my friend, he said he can write a letter to them explaining the laws regarding the responsibilities that parents have with their kids. The letter would include laws and regulations regarding their children that are under 18, and under 25 if still living at home, things on how they would be reasonable for theft, damage of property, and any type of bodily harm caused by their child to another. There are serious consequences for parents who do not curb their childs actions, starting with misdemeanors, all the way up to felony charges.

Secondly, as far is having my child play somewhere that would be inaccessible to her would be locking my kids in the back yard. And to me, that’s unfair to my child, and his friends who enjoy riding their bikes and scooters, we have an elementary that is right a crossed the street that runs parallel to our house. The school as a public HUGE playground for kids and my son love to go play on it with his friends. She should be the one locked in the backyard.

Oooh, Ooooh!!! That was my idea ... sorta. I win!
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i still like the dog or the fence option. actions speak louder then words sometimes.
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Maybe I'm just the oddball here, but I LIKE my kids being locked in a backyard. You can't be too careful.
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Secondly, as far is having my child play somewhere that would be inaccessible to her would be locking my kids in the back yard. And to me, that’s unfair to my child and his friends who enjoy riding their bikes and scooters, we have an elementary that is right a crossed the street that runs parallel to our house. The school has a public playground for kids, and my son loves to go play on it with his friends. She should be the one locked in the backyard.
First: I'm glad you found a resolution. Best of luck.

Second: My suggestion to have your child play somewhere inaccessible to the girl was not meant to be interpreted to "lock your child" in the back yard - rather to lock the little tyrant out of yours.

Is it "fair?" Probably not. But obviously you speaking to her AND her parents doesn't seem to be making too big of an impression either.

Maybe the letter from your attorney friend will help. Again....glad you found a resolution.
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Sadly, what this kid needs is a dose of her own medicine. She needs someone to treat her the way she treats others. In this "politically correct" day age though, it can't happen. If you were to chew her out, slap her hand and walk her home pulling her by the ear, you'd get in trouble

I think you've done the right thing, and the only thing you can do for now. That 8 year old is in for a rough life if she thinks she can get away with treating people like that. Take heart that if she keeps this up, she'll get the crap beat out of her someday!
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So, there is a little Girl that’s about 8 years old, she lives down the street from me, And sheeeee’s a SNOT!! She is so mean to my 4 year old, he'll just be outside hanging out with his friends doing what 4 yr old's do. Anyway, she’ll come by and steal his toy’s, she took his Spiderman Razor Scooter and broke it, she'll call him names and threaten to have bigger kids beat him up, she’s basically the neighbor-hood bully.
First of all I would NEVER allow an 8 yr old to play with my 4 yr old. Second if anybody threatened my child with violence, I mean EVER, I don't care how old or young, I would put the Fear of God in them so fast it would make your head spin. There is only one person in this world that your child is counting on to protect him and that is YOU. Allowing this to continue one minute longer is child abuse.
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Maybe I'm just the oddball here, but I LIKE my kids being locked in a backyard. You can't be too careful.
Its true cant be too careful, I guess it depends on where you live in some cases, as far as us, we’re surrounded by Mormons, and live in a gated community. And since its establishment in 2001, there has not been child who has gone missing. So I feel safe letting him out to play. And he knows his boundaries. Plus I can see the school yard he plays in from my front room. And, I have a GPS locater bolted to the back of his head…


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