When to Start a family - Page 4

naunga · July 29th, 2004, 13:48

R2F,

Other parents regret having children, because unlike you they don't think it through.

You have a very clear picture of what having a kid will be like. That's awesome! You're son will be a much better person because of it.

Unfortunately a lot of people only have children because "they neeeed to have a baby" or "isn't that what married people do?" and all through the pregnancy they don't marvel at the wonder of it all (I really do think it's amazing...the human body in general is amazing. I mean if an airplane had systems as complex as the human endocrine system, it would be raining airliners) they have to remind themselves that this is what they SUPPOSED to be doing. Never what they want to be doing. Children to these people are a burden, not a joy. As a result the entire family ends up damaged in someway, and sometimes people outside the family end up damaged and in extreme cases dead.

See you and others like you know that everyday isn't going to be Happy Fun Day (or Happy Fun Ball...do not taunt the Happy Fun Ball [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif[/img]), but you realize it's part of the game that you and you're wife WANT to play.

I've seen people who have kids and then complain about how hard it is and how if they'd known how hard it was...I just shake my head, because it's not like parents won't share their experiences. There isn't some vast conspiricy to dupe people who don't want kids into having them. Go do a little research like Bandit_Driver. I applaud him. I have too many friends who had kids and then sit back and scratch their heads trying to figure out why?

They should all be like you and have "why?" figured out before hand.

Later and congrats on your fatherhood.

Naunga

BTW let me add this. Go ahead and pity those people who are miserable as parents, but never pity those who choose not to have children. What is a joy to you is a burden to them. I too pity people who have children, but didn't really want to, but I never pity people like you who truly want them.

TheWife · July 29th, 2004, 13:58

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Sad to hear that other parents regret their childrens existance. I feell for the child... not the parent.

[/ QUOTE ] Amen!

It's all about your attitude. I for one know this world needs a people-improvement so I am happy to supply it with at least a few really cool good looking kids that will do something incredible for man kind some day.

What a sad thing that any parent would resent their children. I know it happens, but it makes me sad to hear it. You shouldn't be having kids if you don't have an R2F attitude about it. I would never wish to trade a vacation for having children. Sure parts of being a parent are rough. But the pay off (when you have the right attitude) is worth every single bit.

ready2fly · July 29th, 2004, 14:00

Agreed. Wholeheartedly.

And no, I do not pity those who chose to not have children. As I alluded to in my response, my sister and bro-in-law chose not to have children because they like their lifestyle of being able to pick up and leave whenever and go wherever.

Hell, they don't even have a pet - that's how much they don't want to be tied down.

And you know? Good for them! I'd hate for them - or anyone for that matter - to bring a baby into this world becuase they "think they have to."

How's ATL, btw? How many times have you been to Underground Atlanta? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Better get used to going there. Every time I had someone come to visit Atlanta, they always would say "let's go to Underground... I hear that's cool." [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Doug Taylor · July 29th, 2004, 14:10

Speaking of those that don't have children, you guys would be absolutely amazed how childless couples are sometimes treated like second class citizens in some social circles -- it's highly disturbing.

TheWife · July 29th, 2004, 14:13

I don't think it matters WHAT your situation in life is, SOME ONE is going to treat you like a second class citizen. It's happened to me, for being female, for being married, for being uneducated, and for having children. One of those things that happens no matter what. Just something you have to accept and deal with.

naunga · July 29th, 2004, 14:20

The Big ATL is awesome! My commute takes me right by the airport and I've about wreaked my car twice checking out low flying aircraft. Gotta love 285.

It's funny I've been to Underground Atlanta once and that was when I came from Spring Break back in college. I've not been since.

As far as people from out of town wanting to go there...not gonna happen I'll do the World of Coca-Cola before I do that. People don't come here to see cheesy malls.

Naunga

ready2fly · July 29th, 2004, 14:21

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Speaking of those that don't have children, you guys would be absolutely amazed how childless couples are sometimes treated like second class citizens in some social circles -- it's highly disturbing.

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Oh, believe me, I know. When I was single, my buddy who was married with twin boys CONTINUALLY talked down about me to his other married-with-children friends. Then, I got married and the only thing he had "over" me was that he had kids.

Oddly enough, he is going through a divorce now and she will have primary custody... so, he's essentially losing both.

I'll make sure NEVER to speak of him the way he spoke of me back then.

ready2fly · July 29th, 2004, 14:27

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As far as people from out of town wanting to go there...not gonna happen I'll do the World of Coca-Cola before I do that. People don't come here to see cheesy malls.

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Boy MY friends did. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] You must be acquainted with much classier folk than I. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

The World of Coca-Cola was #2 on my least favorite destinations. Can't count how many times I've been there with friends from out of town.... But hey! The old "Taste THIS!" never got old when you get up to the tasting room and handed them a "cup" of that Italian crap. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Doug Taylor · July 29th, 2004, 14:27

My "favorite" was when I called my neighbor to tell him that his garage door was wide open and the lights were on in his car:

"Hey Bob! Your interior light is on in your car, you might want to check it out before your battery dies"

"Mmmm, yeah, I'll run out there, I think it was my wife. Yeah, she was a little preoccupied with important stuff like the kids"

Or after our vacation:

"Where have you two been?"

"Well, we went to Europe for a couple of weeks thru Italy, Germa..."

"Yeah, well that's great Doug. We used to do all that stuff, but decided to settle down, you know, start living life."

Grr... I felt like saying "Alright chump, just for that, I'm not voting for that school bond issue!"

naunga · July 29th, 2004, 14:30

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You must be acquainted with much classier folk than I.

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Nah, nobody's come to visit yet. A lot of my friend don't even know that Georgia is part of the United States. Damn Yankees can't get over losing the war. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Naunga

ready2fly · July 29th, 2004, 14:32

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"Yeah, well that's great Doug. We used to do all that stuff, but decided to settle down, you know, start living life."

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Two words:

1. Jack
2. Ass.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Don't sweat it. Dude's just jealous. But, you know that. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Doug Taylor · July 29th, 2004, 14:35

Would it be wrong to look longingly out of the home office window and daydream abut egging your neighbors house? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TheShortOne · July 29th, 2004, 14:42

nah, not any worse than wanting to stick your gum onto the guy's car...not that i would ever think about something like that... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cwm27.gif[/img]

ready2fly · July 29th, 2004, 14:42

Nope. I look at my boss every day and consider the same thing... basically... only it involves a dark alley and what's hittin' him ain't eggs. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Kidding.... sorta. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

naunga · July 29th, 2004, 14:44

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"Yeah, well that's great Doug. We used to do all that stuff, but decided to settle down, you know, start living life."

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Ugh, see those are the people who are probably living by the "script":
1. Get a job
2. Get married
3. Have kids
4. Retire

Repeat steps 2 and 3 as necessary.

Now mind you there really isn't anything wrong with living like that, unless you're only doing because you think you HAVE to.

As I said people like that make me sick. These are the same people who think you shouldn't question the president because he's the president.

Naunga

naunga · July 29th, 2004, 14:45

Only if you don't do it.

If his kids are teenagers you're golden because it'll surely be blamed on their friends...especially if they have a teenaged son.

Naunga

Kristie · July 29th, 2004, 15:55

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These are the same people who think you shouldn't question the president because he's the president.

[/ QUOTE ] Republicans??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cwm27.gif[/img]

kidding..only kidding.. i'm SUCH a kidder! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ready2fly · July 29th, 2004, 16:10

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Republicans???
kidding..only kidding.. i'm SUCH a kidder!

[/ QUOTE ]
....or ARE you???????

mtsu_av8er · July 29th, 2004, 17:16

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Sad to hear that other parents regret their childrens existance. I feell for the child... not the parent.

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I don't know if it's really a regret!!!

I'm one of those parents that probably would not have had children if I knew then what I know now.

Do I love my children? YES!! Without a doubt!! Am I resentful? NO!!! Would I tell my children something silly like "I WISH YOU WEREN'T HERE"?? No!! Absolutely not. I wouldn't trade them for the world.

That being said, if they grow up and I get into...that place upstairs and I'm given the opportunity to have another life and start over again, I'd stay childless. No doubt in my mind.

And TheWife...as far as kids being more fun than sex? Call me when the little one is 6... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

They may be more rewarding than sex, but they aren't more fun until they learn to work the PS2 and cast a crankbait... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

TheWife · July 29th, 2004, 17:37

Well I don't even know what a crankbait is but I am guessing a fishing thing?? But you should see my kid on the Xbox. It is sad, yet daddy is proud?? The kid can race cars (I didn't say win, just race) and he can make his "guy" jump up and up down and walk. And he has the required tongue movements down too. (Ya know, how your tongue has to stick out during the hard parts) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

mtsu_av8er · July 29th, 2004, 18:18

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Well I don't even know what a crankbait is but I am guessing a fishing thing??

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But you should see my kid on the Xbox. It is sad, yet daddy is proud??

[/ QUOTE ]

Was that a question?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] It's sad that he's playing video games, or it's sad that Daddy is proud?

TheWife · July 29th, 2004, 18:35

Um, not a question, a confused thought. I guess. LOL. I think it is a little sad that he is already being taught to play those games, and I am confused as to why it is some thing daddys are so proud of. I am proud that he has good eye/hand coordination and follows instructions well enough to do some things like that, but sad that it is being applied to video games. Did that make any more sense or should I call it a day? LOL

mtsu_av8er · July 29th, 2004, 19:27

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I think it is a little sad that he is already being taught to play those games, and I am confused as to why it is some thing daddys are so proud of.

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I'm not sure what's so sad about it. My little girl is becomming quite the techno-wiz, and video games are a big part of it!! I'm not the only proud one ; her Mother is probably more proud than I am!!

Why is it sad?

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I am proud that he has good eye/hand coordination and follows instructions well enough to do some things like that, but sad that it is being applied to video games.

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I'm trying to understand why you're anti-video game! It's not like it's being applied to gang violence or a sack of tina in a pipe...it's a game!! No different from monopoly, just alot more fun!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I'm not being argumentative, by the way...I'm trying to understand.

TheWife · July 29th, 2004, 19:54

I guess I don't see it as much different than sitting in front of the tv all day. I'd rather him be doing active things. Just my opinion though. A little here and there isn't a big deal but I just hope it doesn't lead to hours a day and lots of arguing.

If you let it-you can get obsessed with the games, it can become a financial and emotional burden on your family, and it can impact your attitude. Guess I have to wait and see what happens but I'd rather not encourage him to play them.

mtsu_av8er · July 29th, 2004, 20:00

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I guess I don't see it as much different than sitting in front of the tv all day.

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Not really...you're not being fed programming...you're actively playing a game. It's no different from Monopoly or Rummy....just like family home evening...

It's a game!!

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If you let it-you can get obsessed with the games, it can become a financial and emotional burden on your family, and it can impact your attitude.

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Financial burden on your family? You mean, like buying games? Or playing them? If buying video games becomes a burden, it's not the game that's a burden - it's the person that needs help. Let's say he didn't play games, but he played football. There's alot of money to be spent on football. Does it then become a financial burden on your family?

July 29th, 2004, 13:48	#76
naunga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 981	Re: When to Start a family R2F, Other parents regret having children, because unlike you they don't think it through. You have a very clear picture of what having a kid will be like. That's awesome! You're son will be a much better person because of it. Unfortunately a lot of people only have children because "they neeeed to have a baby" or "isn't that what married people do?" and all through the pregnancy they don't marvel at the wonder of it all (I really do think it's amazing...the human body in general is amazing. I mean if an airplane had systems as complex as the human endocrine system, it would be raining airliners) they have to remind themselves that this is what they SUPPOSED to be doing. Never what they want to be doing. Children to these people are a burden, not a joy. As a result the entire family ends up damaged in someway, and sometimes people outside the family end up damaged and in extreme cases dead. See you and others like you know that everyday isn't going to be Happy Fun Day (or Happy Fun Ball...do not taunt the Happy Fun Ball [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/insane.gif[/img]), but you realize it's part of the game that you and you're wife WANT to play. I've seen people who have kids and then complain about how hard it is and how if they'd known how hard it was...I just shake my head, because it's not like parents won't share their experiences. There isn't some vast conspiricy to dupe people who don't want kids into having them. Go do a little research like Bandit_Driver. I applaud him. I have too many friends who had kids and then sit back and scratch their heads trying to figure out why? They should all be like you and have "why?" figured out before hand. Later and congrats on your fatherhood. Naunga BTW let me add this. Go ahead and pity those people who are miserable as parents, but never pity those who choose not to have children. What is a joy to you is a burden to them. I too pity people who have children, but didn't really want to, but I never pity people like you who truly want them.

July 29th, 2004, 13:58	#77
TheWife Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 4,180	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] Sad to hear that other parents regret their childrens existance. I feell for the child... not the parent. [/ QUOTE ] Amen! It's all about your attitude. I for one know this world needs a people-improvement so I am happy to supply it with at least a few really cool good looking kids that will do something incredible for man kind some day. What a sad thing that any parent would resent their children. I know it happens, but it makes me sad to hear it. You shouldn't be having kids if you don't have an R2F attitude about it. I would never wish to trade a vacation for having children. Sure parts of being a parent are rough. But the pay off (when you have the right attitude) is worth every single bit.

July 29th, 2004, 14:00	#78
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,194	Re: When to Start a family Agreed. Wholeheartedly. And no, I do not pity those who chose to not have children. As I alluded to in my response, my sister and bro-in-law chose not to have children because they like their lifestyle of being able to pick up and leave whenever and go wherever. Hell, they don't even have a pet - that's how much they don't want to be tied down. And you know? Good for them! I'd hate for them - or anyone for that matter - to bring a baby into this world becuase they "think they have to." How's ATL, btw? How many times have you been to Underground Atlanta? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Better get used to going there. Every time I had someone come to visit Atlanta, they always would say "let's go to Underground... I hear that's cool." [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 14:10	#79
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: When to Start a family Speaking of those that don't have children, you guys would be absolutely amazed how childless couples are sometimes treated like second class citizens in some social circles -- it's highly disturbing.

July 29th, 2004, 14:13	#80
TheWife Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 4,180	Re: When to Start a family I don't think it matters WHAT your situation in life is, SOME ONE is going to treat you like a second class citizen. It's happened to me, for being female, for being married, for being uneducated, and for having children. One of those things that happens no matter what. Just something you have to accept and deal with.

July 29th, 2004, 14:20	#81
naunga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 981	Re: When to Start a family The Big ATL is awesome! My commute takes me right by the airport and I've about wreaked my car twice checking out low flying aircraft. Gotta love 285. It's funny I've been to Underground Atlanta once and that was when I came from Spring Break back in college. I've not been since. As far as people from out of town wanting to go there...not gonna happen I'll do the World of Coca-Cola before I do that. People don't come here to see cheesy malls. Naunga

July 29th, 2004, 14:21	#82
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,194	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] Speaking of those that don't have children, you guys would be absolutely amazed how childless couples are sometimes treated like second class citizens in some social circles -- it's highly disturbing. [/ QUOTE ] Oh, believe me, I know. When I was single, my buddy who was married with twin boys CONTINUALLY talked down about me to his other married-with-children friends. Then, I got married and the only thing he had "over" me was that he had kids. Oddly enough, he is going through a divorce now and she will have primary custody... so, he's essentially losing both. I'll make sure NEVER to speak of him the way he spoke of me back then.

July 29th, 2004, 14:27	#83
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,194	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] As far as people from out of town wanting to go there...not gonna happen I'll do the World of Coca-Cola before I do that. People don't come here to see cheesy malls. [/ QUOTE ] Boy MY friends did. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] You must be acquainted with much classier folk than I. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] The World of Coca-Cola was #2 on my least favorite destinations. Can't count how many times I've been there with friends from out of town.... But hey! The old "Taste THIS!" never got old when you get up to the tasting room and handed them a "cup" of that Italian crap. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 14:27	#84
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: When to Start a family My "favorite" was when I called my neighbor to tell him that his garage door was wide open and the lights were on in his car: "Hey Bob! Your interior light is on in your car, you might want to check it out before your battery dies" "Mmmm, yeah, I'll run out there, I think it was my wife. Yeah, she was a little preoccupied with important stuff like the kids" Or after our vacation: "Where have you two been?" "Well, we went to Europe for a couple of weeks thru Italy, Germa..." "Yeah, well that's great Doug. We used to do all that stuff, but decided to settle down, you know, start living life." Grr... I felt like saying "Alright chump, just for that, I'm not voting for that school bond issue!"

July 29th, 2004, 14:30	#85
naunga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 981	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] You must be acquainted with much classier folk than I. [/ QUOTE ] Nah, nobody's come to visit yet. A lot of my friend don't even know that Georgia is part of the United States. Damn Yankees can't get over losing the war. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Naunga

July 29th, 2004, 14:32	#86
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,194	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] "Yeah, well that's great Doug. We used to do all that stuff, but decided to settle down, you know, start living life." [/ QUOTE ] Two words: 1. Jack 2. Ass. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] Don't sweat it. Dude's just jealous. But, you know that. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 14:35	#87
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,280 Blog Entries: 1	Re: When to Start a family Would it be wrong to look longingly out of the home office window and daydream abut egging your neighbors house? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 14:42	#88
TheShortOne Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 3,385	Re: When to Start a family nah, not any worse than wanting to stick your gum onto the guy's car...not that i would ever think about something like that... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cwm27.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 14:42	#89
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,194	Re: When to Start a family Nope. I look at my boss every day and consider the same thing... basically... only it involves a dark alley and what's hittin' him ain't eggs. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Kidding.... sorta. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 14:44	#90
naunga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 981	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] "Yeah, well that's great Doug. We used to do all that stuff, but decided to settle down, you know, start living life." [/ QUOTE ] Ugh, see those are the people who are probably living by the "script": 1. Get a job 2. Get married 3. Have kids 4. Retire Repeat steps 2 and 3 as necessary. Now mind you there really isn't anything wrong with living like that, unless you're only doing because you think you HAVE to. As I said people like that make me sick. These are the same people who think you shouldn't question the president because he's the president. Naunga

July 29th, 2004, 14:45	#91
naunga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: McDonough, GA Posts: 981	Re: When to Start a family Only if you don't do it. If his kids are teenagers you're golden because it'll surely be blamed on their friends...especially if they have a teenaged son. Naunga

July 29th, 2004, 15:55	#92
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 18,810 Blog Entries: 3	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] These are the same people who think you shouldn't question the president because he's the president. [/ QUOTE ] Republicans??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cwm27.gif[/img] kidding..only kidding.. i'm SUCH a kidder! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 16:10	#93
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,194	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] Republicans??? kidding..only kidding.. i'm SUCH a kidder! [/ QUOTE ] ....or ARE you???????

July 29th, 2004, 17:16	#94
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,567	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] Sad to hear that other parents regret their childrens existance. I feell for the child... not the parent. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know if it's really a regret!!! I'm one of those parents that probably would not have had children if I knew then what I know now. Do I love my children? YES!! Without a doubt!! Am I resentful? NO!!! Would I tell my children something silly like "I WISH YOU WEREN'T HERE"?? No!! Absolutely not. I wouldn't trade them for the world. That being said, if they grow up and I get into...that place upstairs and I'm given the opportunity to have another life and start over again, I'd stay childless. No doubt in my mind. And TheWife...as far as kids being more fun than sex? Call me when the little one is 6... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] They may be more rewarding than sex, but they aren't more fun until they learn to work the PS2 and cast a crankbait... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 17:37	#95
TheWife Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 4,180	Re: When to Start a family Well I don't even know what a crankbait is but I am guessing a fishing thing?? But you should see my kid on the Xbox. It is sad, yet daddy is proud?? The kid can race cars (I didn't say win, just race) and he can make his "guy" jump up and up down and walk. And he has the required tongue movements down too. (Ya know, how your tongue has to stick out during the hard parts) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

July 29th, 2004, 18:18	#96
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,567	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] Well I don't even know what a crankbait is but I am guessing a fishing thing?? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But you should see my kid on the Xbox. It is sad, yet daddy is proud?? [/ QUOTE ] Was that a question?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] It's sad that he's playing video games, or it's sad that Daddy is proud?

July 29th, 2004, 18:35	#97
TheWife Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 4,180	Re: When to Start a family Um, not a question, a confused thought. I guess. LOL. I think it is a little sad that he is already being taught to play those games, and I am confused as to why it is some thing daddys are so proud of. I am proud that he has good eye/hand coordination and follows instructions well enough to do some things like that, but sad that it is being applied to video games. Did that make any more sense or should I call it a day? LOL

July 29th, 2004, 19:27	#98
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,567	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] I think it is a little sad that he is already being taught to play those games, and I am confused as to why it is some thing daddys are so proud of. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure what's so sad about it. My little girl is becomming quite the techno-wiz, and video games are a big part of it!! I'm not the only proud one ; her Mother is probably more proud than I am!! Why is it sad? [ QUOTE ] I am proud that he has good eye/hand coordination and follows instructions well enough to do some things like that, but sad that it is being applied to video games. [/ QUOTE ] I'm trying to understand why you're anti-video game! It's not like it's being applied to gang violence or a sack of tina in a pipe...it's a game!! No different from monopoly, just alot more fun!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I'm not being argumentative, by the way...I'm trying to understand.

July 29th, 2004, 19:54	#99
TheWife Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 4,180	Re: When to Start a family I guess I don't see it as much different than sitting in front of the tv all day. I'd rather him be doing active things. Just my opinion though. A little here and there isn't a big deal but I just hope it doesn't lead to hours a day and lots of arguing. If you let it-you can get obsessed with the games, it can become a financial and emotional burden on your family, and it can impact your attitude. Guess I have to wait and see what happens but I'd rather not encourage him to play them.

July 29th, 2004, 20:00	#100
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,567	Re: When to Start a family [ QUOTE ] I guess I don't see it as much different than sitting in front of the tv all day. [/ QUOTE ] Not really...you're not being fed programming...you're actively playing a game. It's no different from Monopoly or Rummy....just like family home evening... It's a game!! [ QUOTE ] If you let it-you can get obsessed with the games, it can become a financial and emotional burden on your family, and it can impact your attitude. [/ QUOTE ] Financial burden on your family? You mean, like buying games? Or playing them? If buying video games becomes a burden, it's not the game that's a burden - it's the person that needs help. Let's say he didn't play games, but he played football. There's alot of money to be spent on football. Does it then become a financial burden on your family?

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