Price Guarantee

[PLANECOOK]

Does the school guarantee the price or is it pay as you go and then pay more in the end to finish????

[surreal1221]

I understand that Falcon will honor the pricing when you begin your training, so that you are locked in.

Now, as far as needing any additional training. . .it is an additional cost for the student, but charged at a 40% discount if you are a program student (professional pilot course, etc).

Spencer is out of the office at present, but I'm sure he will reply to give the "official" ruling.

[PLANECOOK]

Price GUARANTEE is not based on whether they will on a price but the training that they provide. Does the school cover the cost if you do you private in 10 or 15 more than originally quoted? That is what a price guarantee is1 Only a few school take this risk, and that normally means that they standy by the program and instructors.

[surreal1221]

okay - nevermind. I'm not even going to touch this one anymore.

As, honestly, I don't agree with THAT type of practice. If you, are quoted a price, for say the 35 hour ground, and 35 hour flight part 141 instrument program at 7999, and you are not within standards at the last stage check before you go off for your checkride. . . why should the school foot the bill for YOU, the student and customer, to get within standards?

But like I said, I'm done, and I'll allow Spencer to answer as to what Falcon's official policy is in regards to this type of situation.

I know from first hand experience though, that Falcon, and everyone there, stands shoulder to shoulder.

[PLANECOOK]

Originally Posted by surreal1221

okay - nevermind. I'm not even going to touch this one anymore.

As, honestly, I don't agree with THAT type of practice. If you, are quoted a price, for say the 35 hour ground, and 35 hour flight part 141 instrument program at 7999, and you are not within standards at the last stage check before you go off for your checkride. . . why should the school foot the bill for YOU, the student and customer, to get within standards?

But like I said, I'm done, and I'll allow Spencer to answer as to what Falcon's official policy is in regards to this type of situation.

I know from first hand experience though, that Falcon, and everyone there, stands shoulder to shoulder.

Good response and I feel your point of view, but as we all know many school promise one thing and deliver the other. Also, if you check with the FAA only a small percentage of individuals fly throught at minimums and of those most have prior flying experince.

Im not saying the school must foot the bill, but if the school advertises a FIXED price program that it is obligated to finish the student. Ofcourse alot rides on the students, BUT alot rides on the school to provide quality instruction and stick to the contract that was agreed to. Im just saying take a hard look at FAA statistics on what people with 0 (PPL65hrs) time are obtaining the PPL and then rating beyond that before making judgement.

[surreal1221]

Well, like I said. . .it's a personal thing. If you can hack it, with the quality instructors that are provided, you'll come in as scheduled - and - on price. If, you can't hack it, with the quality instructors provided, you'll need more time to be ready. No one to blame but yourself.

It's just a fact of life, in aviation training at least.

Shawn, their Chief instructor, worked with me for my first couple instrument lessons. He informed me that 95% of their students, which is essentially 100% of their professional pilot students, are ready for their checkride right on time (35 hours flight for the instrument rating).

They do a good job, just numbers wise. It's up to you, as the student, to make sure you do the good job as well.

What ratings are you looking to perform?

[PLANECOOK]

I totally understand your point of issue bro! Im just saying that alot of school have newbie CFI's and teach obviously is not the main goal so they teach shotty and the student suffers........ Im going to be starting my IFR/MULTI/COM in about a month or so at a school that guarantees the price, but only because I know that I would rather take the risk on paying alittle more to guarantee that if it takes me 5 more hours....just saying.... that the school guarantees it. Also, the price is right and I know that alot of school in the area have newbie CFI's who lets face it are still learning too....................

[MultiComm]

Here ya go guys!!!

The prices as quoted by Falcon represents a total number of hours that you are purchasing...i.e. 50 hours PPL flight, 40 hours PPL Gnd. The price guarantees the number of hours you purchase (as long as you don't buy other stuff or joyride).

99% of our students are able to complete each rating in the number of hours listed in our programs even though they may be less than the FAA national statistics.

Everyone learns at a different rate and it would not be a good practice to guarantee a program not knowing anything thier motivation and learning abiliities.

[Tim]

Especially with todays gas prices.

[PLANECOOK]

True dat, even ATP just jacked up the already high prices, but lets face it gas price have not gone up 5 dollars a gallon since last year. So you take a 200hrs program and jack it up 5 grand thats works out to being somewhere in the ball park of almost a couple of bucks increase, and dont give me the crap about management cost increase like they told me... They claim to guarantee the rating, but that why it cost you atleast 10 grand more than say an Ari Ben. Simple put, the school just charges more to cover the cost of the students who dont complete in time and the one that do are the one they make the extra dough on. Hence PPL and 85hrs start the program there because they know you will have some sense of flying proficient by that point versus a fresh 0 time ppl.

[surreal1221]

Speaking of ATP correct?