ME Rating at Falcon

[BrianNC]

What does Falcon charge for the ME rating? I noticed it is 15 hours of flight time, which is far more than most.

[surreal1221]

From a flyer I have from them, dating back to July of this year. . .

Multi addon is quoted at $4,377, includes 15 hours flight and 24 hours ground school.

[BrianNC]

Originally Posted by surreal1221

From a flyer I have from them, dating back to July of this year. . .

Multi addon is quoted at $4,377, includes 15 hours flight and 24 hours ground school.

That's kinda high, but it is because it is so many more hours of flight time and ground school than most courses.

[Tim]

Did the flyer show using the seminole or diamond twin star the are getting or may already have?

[BrianNC]

Originally Posted by Tim

Did the flyer show using the seminole or diamond twin star the are getting or may already have?

I didn't see a picture of the Diamond on there site that I remember. So it was probably the Seminole, and I think they have a Seneca too.

[surreal1221]

Flyer is on my other system, and I won't have access to that until 8am this morning.

If you guys PM me your e-mail addy I'll forward it to you. Mike Nunemaker sent it to me. (Hope I spelt his last name right).

[Tim]

I wasnt sure if they had the diamond twin yet. I dont think they use the seneca now....very old and mx hog. Mike is the guy I talked to last time I was over there. He is a pretty cool guy. He does the charter flights also.

[surreal1221]

Yeah.

You know, a couple weeks ago I watched (what I think) was their Semeca heading someplace. Then a few days later, same N #, but this time it was a Diamond.

They may have taken shipment of the first twinstar, and transfered the N #.

[BrianNC]

That's weird. MultiComm's post just completely disappeared.

[MultiComm]

Hey Everyone!!! Just got caught up on the recent activity and here is the Falcon Response to most issues thus far.

First let me mention that the rates have increased on all aircraft however as long as the website quotes the previous price, it will be honored.

1) The ME rating currently runs for $4,747 which is for the mentioned 15 hours flight and 24 hours ground.
NOTE: This is a Part 141 approved course and can be completed under Part 61 for less time depending on the applicants prior flying experience.

2) Our current Multi-Engine aircraft is the Piper Seminole. Tim is correct in saying that we have retired our Seneca due to Mx costs.

3) The TwinStar has not yet arrived, so the N# comment is incorrect. When the aircraft does arrive...VERY SOON...it will have a new tail number due to the fact that the Seminole will continue to be apart of our fleet.

If anyone would like a new copy of the Program Flyer, PM me with an e-mail address and I will send it to you.

Thanks for each of you keeping this board alive. We certainly look forward to seeing each of you should you choose Falcon Aviation Academy.

__________________________________________________ ____________
Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions and I will respond personally to any questions you have

Spencer
spencer@falconaviationacademy.com
www.faa-air.com
www.falconaviationacademy.com

[BrianNC]

And now it's back! I wonder what happened?

[BrianNC]

Hey multicomm, how do you charge for the 61 multi? I am looking at a couple of other programs. Here they are.

ATP $2795
10 hours/8 - 8.5 for training. Rest for flight test.

Paramount Flight Services

Estimated Costs*

9 Hours Dual Flight Time (PA44-180)

$1,795.00

9 Hours Dual Flight Instruction
$370.00

4 Hours Ground Instruction
$165.00
1.5 Hours Solo Flight (PTS Exam)
$300.00
Estimated Cost - ME Rating
$2,630.00

Both do not include examiners fees.

[MultiComm]

The Part 61 program would also be for 10 hours of flight time and dual instruction as well as 10 hours of ground instruction.

Total Cost = $3,290
~$500 more than ATP due to actual ground school offered

Flight Test will be extra which will require a flight to KAUO (the closest ME examiner) in addition to the cost of the examining fee.

Our experience is that most students require more than 10 hours to be fully profiencent in ME operations which is the reason we have built in the additional time on the 141 program.

[surreal1221]

Originally Posted by MultiComm

3) The TwinStar has not yet arrived, so the N# comment is incorrect. When the aircraft does arrive...VERY SOON...it will have a new tail number due to the fact that the Seminole will continue to be apart of our fleet.

If anyone would like a new copy of the Program Flyer, PM me with an e-mail address and I will send it to you.

Thanks for each of you keeping this board alive. We certainly look forward to seeing each of you should you choose Falcon Aviation Academy.

Roger that! I was mistaken.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by BrianNC

And now it's back! I wonder what happened?

His ears must have been burning

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by BrianNC

That's weird. MultiComm's post just completely disappeared.

Originally Posted by BrianNC

And now it's back! I wonder what happened?

MultiComm deleted it himself, then reposted. Reason given for the original deletion: "Need to revise"

Learn all kinds of things as a Mod....

[BrianNC]

I knew it wasn't old-timers disease!

[Tim]

Probaby all the avgas and jet fumes that are eating at the brain cells.....

[surreal1221]

Spencer,

Any update on the costs? Last I talked with you, you had mentioned that the pro pilot course would see a cost increase due to the increase in fuel costs. Is this still occuring?

Also, during the winter and early spring months, when energy costs go down slightly, will there also be a drop in the program cost then as well?

[MultiComm]

Originally Posted by surreal1221

Spencer,

Any update on the costs? Last I talked with you, you had mentioned that the pro pilot course would see a cost increase due to the increase in fuel costs. Is this still occuring?

Also, during the winter and early spring months, when energy costs go down slightly, will there also be a drop in the program cost then as well?

Yes, the prices went up effective August 8th and is reflected on all our materials and will soon be reflected on our website. Anyone that is interested in a updated pro pilot flyer, please PM your e-mail to me.

It is in my aviation experience (although not totally impossible), that aviation does not usually see a decrease in price. While the fuel surcharges may be eliminated as fuel costs come down, the actual aircraft rates are likely to remain the same.