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Old March 29th, 2006, 13:53   #1
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Falcon Aviation Academy is pleased to announce it's pro-pilot program for $36,485. Should a pilot applicant need a private license the cost is $43,480. For more information please check out our website at falconaviationacademy.com
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Old March 29th, 2006, 14:02   #2
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Is that it?
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just under 7 grand for a private!!!!
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Old March 29th, 2006, 17:03   #4
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Hey, I'm open for discussion. I looked on the website and I still have a few questions.

-Is housing on your own?
-how much of the training is multi time?
-how much sim. time?
-Do you(me)get CFII and MEI?
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Employment Application Successful candidates are offered employment with the company. If hired, applicants enter into company paid initial ground and flight training including second in command 135 operations. All candidates must submit a complete background check and pass a company interview.
- This sounds on the up and up. Is it?

Seems like a good place
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Someone else can answer specifics but from what I hear its about 70-80 multi time and housing is not included. However they do have complexes close by. I am looking into Falcon myself as a possibility and every time I hear somethings its been good news. I am also pretty sure as far as sim time goes its very little compared to other places (i.e atp). Any ways I'm sure multicomm or iffici will be on soon and answer the questions.....
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Hey, I'm open for discussion. I looked on the website and I still have a few questions.

-Is housing on your own?
-how much of the training is multi time?
-how much sim. time?
-Do you(me)get CFII and MEI?

- This sounds on the up and up. Is it?

Seems like a good place
I have completed both Instrument and Commercial at Falcon and am now working for them in the charter division. Not to sound biased but from what other students tell me about other flight schools they have visited or enrolled in...they are nothing compared to Falcon.

meyers9163 is correct by saying that housing is not included in the price however we have an arrangment with a local apartment complex.

Multi Time is 70 hours during the commercial and if you work for us then you will be able to receive you MEI for about 15 more flight hours.

No sim time!!! All flight time is in the aircraft. We may soon be getting a sim but the plans for this are for it to be an optional route to choose or maybe it will be used to supplement flight time on days when the weather just will not permit flight.

The CFII and the MEI are included in the package. For more information on this please PM me or send me an e-mail and I would be glad to fully describe the program for you.
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Employment Application Successful candidates are offered employment with the company. If hired, applicants enter into company paid initial ground and flight training including second in command 135 operations. All candidates must submit a complete background check and pass a company interview.
Falcon Aviation now offeres several "Career Paths"

Airline Career Path
------Zero time though MEI
---------Offered Instructor Employment

Corporate Career Path
------Zero time though SIC (CFI optional)
---------Offered Charter Employment

Business/Personal Path
Zero time through Multi Private (time builder & additional courses optional)

The time builder is always and optional package to purchase on its own. Also, for those wanting charter experience that choose the airline career path, they may also choose the SIC option in addition to CFI if requested, however cost will be more since you are virtually combining both Airline and Corporate Career Paths. More information can be given via PM or e-mail.

Look for our new website to be launched soon that will reflect this changes
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Thanks for all your replys and info guys. I e-mailed the school too, and they shot one right back at me. Seems like a good school, I'll definitely have to come on down and check it out.
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I have completed both Instrument and Commercial at Falcon and am now working for them in the charter division. Not to sound biased but from what other students tell me about other flight schools they have visited or enrolled in...they are nothing compared to Falcon.

meyers9163 is correct by saying that housing is not included in the price however we have an arrangment with a local apartment complex.

Multi Time is 70 hours during the commercial and if you work for us then you will be able to receive you MEI for about 15 more flight hours.

No sim time!!! All flight time is in the aircraft. We may soon be getting a sim but the plans for this are for it to be an optional route to choose or maybe it will be used to supplement flight time on days when the weather just will not permit flight.

The CFII and the MEI are included in the package. For more information on this please PM me or send me an e-mail and I would be glad to fully describe the program for you.
I want to fly more than anything, but I have a couple of DUI's and a short criminal record (should be expunged by now) Can I still fly jets!!!!!

This means a lot to me, I'm willing to do anything to get to the regionals.
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I want to fly more than anything, but I have a couple of DUI's and a short criminal record (should be expunged by now) Can I still fly jets!!!!!

This means a lot to me, I'm willing to do anything to get to the regionals.
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uhhhhhh

dui's are bad bubba
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$36K for flight training isn't bad. Skymates or Falcon sounds like the right choice!
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Old March 31st, 2006, 14:42   #13
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I want to fly more than anything, but I have a couple of DUI's and a short criminal record (should be expunged by now) Can I still fly jets!!!!!

This means a lot to me, I'm willing to do anything to get to the regionals.
My first suggestion is to go get a medical. This will be your first hint of whether your record is cleared. While you only need to start with a 3rd class you may want to go ahead and try for the 1st class to see if you qualify at the highest level.
Whatever you do---DO NOT try to hide the facts on the medical application. When it asks for your crimial history/DUI's make sure you right all the correct information down. This will make it easier for you in the future. The last thing you want is to be charged with fraud for omitting this information on a Federal Document.

More than likely if you truthfully reveal the convictions and it has been some time since they occured, then you will be fine. However, if you forget/omit some information and they figure it out (through the National Driver's Regsitry (NDR) [FAR Part 67.7] and the Criminal Info Center (NCIC), then you will be denied.

If you are able to get the medical the hardest part is out of the way. Now the FAA knows your history and has allowed you to continue. This will allow training to begin.

The only question I can not answer for you is the ability to fly jets. Each company/operator will have there own standards for employment and this may or may not be a determining factor in their decision. Most will probably see an expunged record as OK as long as you are clean once the inital and random drug screens come back clean.

I hope that this information is helpful to you.
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My first suggestion is to go get a medical. This will be your first hint of whether your record is cleared. While you only need to start with a 3rd class you may want to go ahead and try for the 1st class to see if you qualify at the highest level.
Whatever you do---DO NOT try to hide the facts on the medical application. When it asks for your crimial history/DUI's make sure you right all the correct information down. This will make it easier for you in the future. The last thing you want is to be charged with fraud for omitting this information on a Federal Document.

More than likely if you truthfully reveal the convictions and it has been some time since they occured, then you will be fine. However, if you forget/omit some information and they figure it out (through the National Driver's Regsitry (NDR) [FAR Part 67.7] and the Criminal Info Center (NCIC), then you will be denied.

If you are able to get the medical the hardest part is out of the way. Now the FAA knows your history and has allowed you to continue. This will allow training to begin.

The only question I can not answer for you is the ability to fly jets. Each company/operator will have there own standards for employment and this may or may not be a determining factor in their decision. Most will probably see an expunged record as OK as long as you are clean once the inital and random drug screens come back clean.

I hope that this information is helpful to you.
Drug test?? Well, it burns when I pee, but I think that's a different issue.

The new prices are great!!!!!!!!!!!
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For the guys who train at falcon whose fighters is that. Is it flown or is it on static display.
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The F-16 is static...or was last time I was over there
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I'm serioulsy considering falcon too. Skymates is a bit cheaper. I'm 18 I havn't started college yet but I do have my private pilot if I did their program or went to another flight academy this year would I have a good chance of finding employment as a CFI while I go to college? I would go to a regional after that but right now I need to figure out how I'm going to get my ratings and finance them.
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Honestly Falcon or Skymates are great choices from my research. HOWEVER being only 18 and not even in college yet financing might be the hardest part of training. Again though since you already have your PPL I honestly would think about doing your training through an FBO while going to college. Honestly you would have a great chance of having PPL-COMM done by your start of JR year and maybe even CFI. Then you have two years to instruct around you whlie in college. Hey i'm a Senior now and if i could do it again i'd have done it that away. Oh yeah and bit plus pay as you go and NO DEBT! Just my 2 cents however...... Go to college, enjoy and dont take time off... bust your butt and stay foced, again most of all ENJOY only 18 years old you have time man!
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GO TO COLLEGE FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!! and fly on the side at a local FBO. Cheaper and less debt. You can use flying as an outlet from the stresses of college ( the academic part).
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Yeah FBO training seems to be alot cheaper but I could get my grandfather to loan me the money or cosign so I don't think getting a loan would be the hardest part. The FBO has another advantage because all the training would be at a higher denisty altitude (KGTF field elevation 3677 ft). The college here has an aviation program where I can get commercial and instrument ratings but I don't think any of it is multi. I got my PPL in colorado and now I'm moving to montana and I'm not sure the FBO in montana even offers multi engine or CFI's. And it is a two year degree and four year degree is what I need. Either way I already took time off to qualify for instate tuition but its boring as hell I will be going to the summer semester if I decide not to go to a flight school.
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As someone how shoulda coulda a long time ago. The degree is something that will be there forever. Remember that(and I would never wish this on you)you could lose you medical permantely and then what. With the degree you still have many options. Dont go into debt to fly in at all possible.
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I know that I could loose my medical for some reason I certainly qualify now but anythings possible I shouldn't put all my eggs in one basket but I'm willing to take the chance. Worst case scenario I'm stuck with a 300 dollar a month payment + or - 50 dollars on something I can't use but in all likleyhood if I make it through the program which I'm sure I can I will have a good start on my flying career. But I do plan to get a degree in something unrelated to aviation most likely chemistry. I found out the flying program at the college is 30 g's for the training and that only takes you through single engine intrument and commercial and 7 g's for the 2 year degree in aviation science. The local FBO has no flight school but there are a couple local free lance instructors with single engine planes for rent the plane is $95 an hour and the instructor fee was $30 apparently there are no multi engine planes available but the lady at the FBO was pretty sure the the instructor is an MEI.
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I think getting the degree will be the best move. Going through the school will help some or does the school have a flying club? My bro in law got his private through the GA Tech flying club and saved a ton of money....
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I would imagine it has a flying club since it has an aviation degree with a training option but like I said thats almost as expensive as a flight school and all you get is single engine commercial and instruments. I know the only planes available for rent in the area are a single engine cherokee and a 172. I could probably get all the single engine stuff out of the way since there are some instructors in the area.
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Just a thought about the flying club. The Ga Tech on was considerably cheaper than anywhere else in ATL
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