800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia

planestupid · July 19th, 2009, 19:36

I'm going out on a limb here..

I'm looking for something overseas: Africa, Mid-East, Asia.
I have about the following (basic and brief) times:

800 TT
500 Multi Jet
Hold 1 turbojet type rating, no SOE

I'm looking for something to build time and actually get paid. I've heard horror stories about guys not getting paid.

Any thing I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

ntbjounin · July 19th, 2009, 20:04

how did you get 500 multi jet and only have 800hrs? i have 800hrs and no jet.

so if you're moving... can i take your old job?

esa17 · July 19th, 2009, 20:21

He's probably a furloughed regional F/O. He'll probably be the first to tell you to avoid that SJS.

flyingmaniac · July 19th, 2009, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by planestupid

I'm going out on a limb here..

I'm looking for something overseas: Africa, Mid-East, Asia.
I have about the following (basic and brief) times:

800 TT
500 Multi Jet
Hold 1 turbojet type rating, no SOE

I'm looking for something to build time and actually get paid. I've heard horror stories about guys not getting paid.

Any thing I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

I'm sorry man but your name Planestupid says a lot! Is it the reason why you didn't instruct before you went to the airlines or you don't have the instructor license at all?

Don't want to come up with any assumptions, but your first post is looking for a job being planestupid. WHY?

3enginejock · July 19th, 2009, 21:40

Its just a name, why are you jumping all over him. You dont know him or his situation so who are you to judge him.

If he is furloughed atleast he is trying to find a new job instead of bitching about being furloughed.

flyingmaniac · July 19th, 2009, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3enginejock

Its just a name, why are you jumping all over him. You dont know him or his situation so who are you to judge him.

If he is furloughed atleast he is trying to find a new job instead of bitching about being furloughed.

Well how about for Post #1
"Hello JC members my name is _________. My story is _________.

Common courtesy someone introduces themself with a hand shake.

planestupid · July 19th, 2009, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingmaniac

Well how about for Post #1
"Hello JC members my name is _________. My story is _________.

Common courtesy someone introduces themself with a hand shake.

Well perhaps sir, because in the grand scheme of things, it's nobody's business. Unless you're wanting to interview me for a position. Otherwise, I don't know you and you don't know me. So why should I feel compelled to divulge personal information?

I asked a question, pure and simple. Who I worked for, whether 121 or otherwise, is not that important. The fact is I'm unemployed and seeking out something.

As for my screen name, well, I could twist your name into meaning you're a maniac while in the cockpit or around aircraft in general. But that wouldn't be fair of me would it?

flyingmaniac · July 19th, 2009, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by planestupid

Well perhaps sir, because in the grand scheme of things, it's nobody's business. Unless you're wanting to interview me for a position. Otherwise, I don't know you and you don't know me. So why should I feel compelled to divulge personal information?

I asked a question, pure and simple. Who I worked for, whether 121 or otherwise, is not that important. The fact is I'm unemployed and seeking out something.

As for my screen name, well, I could twist your name into meaning you're a maniac while in the cockpit or around aircraft in general. But that wouldn't be fair of me would it?

Good luck in finding a job with that attitude.

Doug Taylor · July 19th, 2009, 22:32

Good grief guys. Drop in the "Ask a Flight Surgeon" subforum and see if he's got a couple Prozac samplers.

To the original poster: Sorry I can't answer your question because I'm not knowledgeable on the topic, but good luck in your job search and I hope someone can help you.

3enginejock · July 19th, 2009, 22:41

To answer your the original question...

There are a few jobs over seas. The main issue is a lot of the require a lot of time and some even require to have a JAA ATPL or frozen ATPL (which is basically a ATP without the time, as soon as you reach the minimum hours your license turns into a ATP).

Not to mention some require you to have a type in the aircraft they want to hire you to fly.

Africa is a bit wierd but if you REALLY want to fly there your going to have to go there and actually speak to someone. Also do your research on a company before you go, Africa is full of shady airlines that dont maintain their aircraft.

In USA, Colgan is hiring. I am sure they have a ton of resumes but It couldnt hurt to try.

jhugz · July 19th, 2009, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Good grief guys. Drop in the "Ask a Flight Surgeon" subforum and see if he's got a couple Prozac samplers.

Quality quote...

SteveC · July 19th, 2009, 23:47

A general observation that I've made over my many years on this planet is that people tend to help the people that they like more than the others.

Convoluted sentence structure, yes, but valid point lives within never the less.

mikecweb · July 19th, 2009, 23:49

How bout "Don't act like a dick around those you seek help from"

Gonzo · July 19th, 2009, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by planestupid

Well perhaps sir, because in the grand scheme of things, it's nobody's business. But the people who you have asked for help from. Unless you're wanting to interview me for a position. Otherwise, I don't know you and you don't know me. So why should I feel compelled to divulge personal information? Why should I help someone who doesn't care to get to know me.

I asked a question, pure and simple. Who I worked for, whether 121 or otherwise, is not that important. It is very important and so is the the airplane you have a type in. The fact is I'm unemployed and seeking out something.

poser765 · July 19th, 2009, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

A general observation that I've made over my many years on this planet is that people tend to help the people that they like more than the others.

Convoluted sentence structure, yes, but valid point lives within never the less.

People tend to help others they like more often than those they don't like.

There helped you out a bit. Maybe...

ntbjounin · July 19th, 2009, 23:55

wow... someone's getting a job on JC quickly! hahah

kellwolf · July 20th, 2009, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by planestupid

I'm looking for something to build time and actually get paid. I've heard horror stories about guys not getting paid.

That's called a "career" or a "job," not "time building." That one just really irks me.....

CRJDriver · July 20th, 2009, 00:53

What type do you have 500 hrs. Multi Jet? There are some airlines in Africa/Asia that'll take FOs with 500 in type, but you are still a little low on TT. If you can tell me your type, I can point you in some direction in terms of overseas companies.

planestupid · July 20th, 2009, 02:56

All I was seeking is the name of a few companies that may be hiring. Times that they ask for would help. I just want to forward CVs and put in applications.

What gets me is people who want to know all about you before they're willing to help, as if they have control over you getting a job and furthering your career.

As for the time building remark. I know plenty of pilots who go expat to build time in type and for the pay. Because with time in type they may be able to move on to a captain position (if they started out as FO).

I'm not looking to get into a Boeing or Airbus, but something like turboprop or smaller that a young, low time pilot such as myself will be able to gain valuable experience.

If you really must know, I don't have 121 experience.

I have flown Part 91 and 135 on a mid-sized multi-jet.

The airplanes were sold. I got the job because I worked for the company prior (non-aviation related job) before working in the flight department. When a position came open in the flight department, they offered it in house, to me. What would you have done? Said "No thanks"?

That is why I tried to keep it as basic as I could. Prior research indicated that most overseas jobs were looking for pilots with prior airline experience and time in type. So having known this, I was hoping maybe others would know of entry level type work overseas. That is why I put my basics only, because I don't have anything more to add. I'm not shooting for the stars, but something a little below that, a foot in the door that leads to the path of Boeings and Airbuses.

Either you know of some operations like this, or you don't. If you do I would appreciate the lead. If not, I think it appropriate to keep your personal ideals and opinions to yourself. Goes along with the thing of 'Nothing positive to say? Then don't say anything.'

To CRJ: Thanks for the info thus far.

planestupid · July 20th, 2009, 02:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3enginejock

To answer your the original question...

There are a few jobs over seas. The main issue is a lot of the require a lot of time and some even require to have a JAA ATPL or frozen ATPL (which is basically a ATP without the time, as soon as you reach the minimum hours your license turns into a ATP).

Not to mention some require you to have a type in the aircraft they want to hire you to fly.

Africa is a bit wierd but if you REALLY want to fly there your going to have to go there and actually speak to someone. Also do your research on a company before you go, Africa is full of shady airlines that dont maintain their aircraft.

In USA, Colgan is hiring. I am sure they have a ton of resumes but It couldnt hurt to try.

Thanks for the info 3engine. Maybe with some luck I'll be able to track something down.

RICHARD5 · July 20th, 2009, 03:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingmaniac

I'm sorry man but your name Planestupid says a lot! Is it the reason why you didn't instruct before you went to the airlines or you don't have the instructor license at all?

Don't want to come up with any assumptions, but your first post is looking for a job being planestupid. WHY?

LOL We have a MANIAC asking a guy if he's STUPID. Oh the irony.

Maybe we can find an OCDPilot or how 'bout a SchitzoFlyer.

Gonzo · July 20th, 2009, 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by planestupid

What gets me is people who want to know all about you before they're willing to help, as if they have control over you getting a job and furthering your career.

I think you have a lot to learn about this web site. 4 out of the five interviews I have been offered have been from people on this website. People help people they like, and the only way to know if you like someone is to get to know them.

planestupid · July 20th, 2009, 04:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

I think you have a lot to learn about this web site. 4 out of the five interviews I have been offered have been from people on this website. People help people they like, and the only way to know if you like someone is to get to know them.

Seems kinda one-wayish to me. Show me yours and THEN I'll show you mine? It always falls on the new guy doesn't it.

Truth be told, aviation is in a sad state. I recently watched a guy lose his job because another guy didn't like him. The dude stabbed him in the back. Why would anybody do that?

Guess I do have things to learn. Everyone's a butthole to you until they get to know you. Used to be you go to the airport and people were glad to see you. Now people look at you suspiciously, like you might stab them in the back and steal their job.

<Sigh> I dislike adding commentary.

Anyone else willing to to just do something descent once without having to like the person for what he/she is or is not?

flyingmaniac · July 20th, 2009, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by planestupid

Seems kinda one-wayish to me. Show me yours and THEN I'll show you mine? It always falls on the new guy doesn't it.

Truth be told, aviation is in a sad state. I recently watched a guy lose his job because another guy didn't like him. The dude stabbed him in the back. Why would anybody do that?

Guess I do have things to learn. Everyone's a butthole to you until they get to know you. Used to be you go to the airport and people were glad to see you. Now people look at you suspiciously, like you might stab them in the back and steal their job.

<Sigh> I dislike adding commentary.

Anyone else willing to to just do something descent once without having to like the person for what he/she is or is not?

The people on this website are like a disfunctional family. We are against one another sometimes but mainly love to help each other out for the good.

Think of it this way, you don't walk up to a woman or man and ask them for their number to go out on a date. You have to talk to them so that they know who you are. If they have cold feet not knowing the person you are, you will be left out in the rain with no number.

Just relax, now that we kind of know some history about you, all I can say is welcome to the JC family.

planestupid · July 20th, 2009, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICHARD5

LOL We have a MANIAC asking a guy if he's STUPID. Oh the irony.

Maybe we can find an OCDPilot or how 'bout a SchitzoFlyer.

You know, this is actually kinda hillarious if you really stop and give it some thought.

July 19th, 2009, 20:04	#2
ntbjounin Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 118	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia how did you get 500 multi jet and only have 800hrs? i have 800hrs and no jet. so if you're moving... can i take your old job?

July 19th, 2009, 20:21	#3
esa17 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: KTRL, KTYR, F46, T48 Posts: 1,155	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia He's probably a furloughed regional F/O. He'll probably be the first to tell you to avoid that SJS. __________________ Being captain is about pure intuition and heart, a good captain can't have either one.

July 19th, 2009, 21:40	#5
3enginejock Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 197	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia Its just a name, why are you jumping all over him. You dont know him or his situation so who are you to judge him. If he is furloughed atleast he is trying to find a new job instead of bitching about being furloughed. __________________ IBC Airways Saab 340 FO

July 19th, 2009, 22:32	#9
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 50,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia Good grief guys. Drop in the "Ask a Flight Surgeon" subforum and see if he's got a couple Prozac samplers. To the original poster: Sorry I can't answer your question because I'm not knowledgeable on the topic, but good luck in your job search and I hope someone can help you. __________________ Doug Taylor PPL-SEL PA-38 Typed

July 19th, 2009, 22:41	#10
3enginejock Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 197	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia To answer your the original question... There are a few jobs over seas. The main issue is a lot of the require a lot of time and some even require to have a JAA ATPL or frozen ATPL (which is basically a ATP without the time, as soon as you reach the minimum hours your license turns into a ATP). Not to mention some require you to have a type in the aircraft they want to hire you to fly. Africa is a bit wierd but if you REALLY want to fly there your going to have to go there and actually speak to someone. Also do your research on a company before you go, Africa is full of shady airlines that dont maintain their aircraft. In USA, Colgan is hiring. I am sure they have a ton of resumes but It couldnt hurt to try. __________________ IBC Airways Saab 340 FO

July 19th, 2009, 19:36	#1
planestupid Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: United States Posts: 38	800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia I'm going out on a limb here.. I'm looking for something overseas: Africa, Mid-East, Asia. I have about the following (basic and brief) times: 800 TT 500 Multi Jet Hold 1 turbojet type rating, no SOE I'm looking for something to build time and actually get paid. I've heard horror stories about guys not getting paid. Any thing I would appreciate it. Thanks!

July 19th, 2009, 23:47	#12
SteveC Ameliorator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 11,203	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia A general observation that I've made over my many years on this planet is that people tend to help the people that they like more than the others. Convoluted sentence structure, yes, but valid point lives within never the less. __________________ . A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. ~Mitch Ratcliffe

July 19th, 2009, 23:49	#13
mikecweb Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wishing I was in Seattle Posts: 3,824	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia How bout "Don't act like a dick around those you seek help from" __________________ "...if one can not fly ATP standards one should not be in an ATP job" ~Someone more people should be listening to rather than talking over.

July 19th, 2009, 23:55	#16
ntbjounin Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 118	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia wow... someone's getting a job on JC quickly! hahah

July 20th, 2009, 00:53	#18
CRJDriver Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KBOI Posts: 2,185	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia What type do you have 500 hrs. Multi Jet? There are some airlines in Africa/Asia that'll take FOs with 500 in type, but you are still a little low on TT. If you can tell me your type, I can point you in some direction in terms of overseas companies.

July 20th, 2009, 02:56	#19
planestupid Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: United States Posts: 38	Re: 800 TT, looking for work, Africa, Mid-East, Asia All I was seeking is the name of a few companies that may be hiring. Times that they ask for would help. I just want to forward CVs and put in applications. What gets me is people who want to know all about you before they're willing to help, as if they have control over you getting a job and furthering your career. As for the time building remark. I know plenty of pilots who go expat to build time in type and for the pay. Because with time in type they may be able to move on to a captain position (if they started out as FO). I'm not looking to get into a Boeing or Airbus, but something like turboprop or smaller that a young, low time pilot such as myself will be able to gain valuable experience. If you really must know, I don't have 121 experience. I have flown Part 91 and 135 on a mid-sized multi-jet. The airplanes were sold. I got the job because I worked for the company prior (non-aviation related job) before working in the flight department. When a position came open in the flight department, they offered it in house, to me. What would you have done? Said "No thanks"? That is why I tried to keep it as basic as I could. Prior research indicated that most overseas jobs were looking for pilots with prior airline experience and time in type. So having known this, I was hoping maybe others would know of entry level type work overseas. That is why I put my basics only, because I don't have anything more to add. I'm not shooting for the stars, but something a little below that, a foot in the door that leads to the path of Boeings and Airbuses. Either you know of some operations like this, or you don't. If you do I would appreciate the lead. If not, I think it appropriate to keep your personal ideals and opinions to yourself. Goes along with the thing of 'Nothing positive to say? Then don't say anything.' To CRJ: Thanks for the info thus far.

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