Cathay Cadet Program

chris · June 19th, 2009, 19:46

Word on PPrune is that Cathay has just opened their cadet program to all nationalities. I dont have work for CX nor do I know anything about their cadet program, but this might be of some interest to the non-licensed pilots around here.

Check out the Cathay website on how to apply. http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ot_application

scramjet · June 30th, 2009, 14:51

That's awesome, Cathay's been on my list for a long time, although I hear things aren't as great over there as they used to be. I'm kind of surprised that they're doing something like that in this economy.

scramjet · June 30th, 2009, 14:53

I wonder what the class start dates are like? I probably have zero chance, but it would be neat if I could get a class for after I graduate from college next May.

Hate to wait to apply, I waited on Etihad's and now they're not accepting applications for cadet...

scramjet · June 30th, 2009, 15:13

Based off what I'm seeing on pprune, I bet there will be even more airlines that open up their programs to foreigners. A lot of the speculation on pprune regarding economics seems valid: the only thing the airline pays for is training, no housing etc like with already licensed expats and plus they get you for a contractually agreed timeframe or "their money back." That does seem to be a good deal on their part. Wonder if cadets get membership in the union (Hong Kong Air Officers Association)? Not sure how the labor laws would work over there...

E_Dawg · June 30th, 2009, 18:52

You'll want to check HK housing costs if what you say is true about a lack of expat housing allowance for cadets (it's not cheap)

Bajan Hopeful · June 30th, 2009, 23:18

Not applying or anything in that manner but how strict would they be with this. Just say for an example someone has all the requriements sans the A level science subjects?

Sachi · July 1st, 2009, 01:36

Well that's good news. Although I believe every prospective student should work their way up to the big shiny jets, it's great that airlines like Cathay have these programs. Like a Etihad captain told me once "Every pilot should earn their way to the left seat of an airliner however getting on a cadet program is like winning the lottery and shouldn't be passed up!"

scramjet · July 1st, 2009, 08:19

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Originally Posted by E_Dawg

You'll want to check HK housing costs if what you say is true about a lack of expat housing allowance for cadets (it's not cheap)

I'm pretty sure they meet housing costs during training (like Etihad), just not after. I believe Etihad had the same deal, but with a rent to own scheme after passing out of training.

Cathay seems like a better deal than Etihad only if based on the fact you have a union. It would be great to have the union support and protection especially being in a place one is not familar with and used to (Etihad didn't/couldn't have a union because of UAE labor laws).

Rumor on pprune is CX will take a lot of cadets, don't know how true that is. Pprune has tidbits of very useful information...if you can find it among the arguments, baseless speculation, and overposting. JC is much better, just need to build up the expat and cadet community here!

E_Dawg · July 1st, 2009, 23:22

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Originally Posted by scramjet

JC is much better, just need to build up the expat and cadet community here!

Here here!

7700 · July 4th, 2009, 00:52

just curious, but is this something an American with a college degree could enroll in, perhaps one that already has a CFI?

b3181981 · July 4th, 2009, 01:30

why not just apply for a second officer position?

mdspytko · July 6th, 2009, 22:02

I was wondering if anyone knows if they are hiring for the 2nd Officer position? I did see on their website the info and their mins but does anyone know for sure? Thanks.

Gonzo · July 6th, 2009, 22:24

Last I heard no SO, FO, or DEC classes. That was from a CA that is in the pool for a DEFO.

PGT · July 6th, 2009, 22:41

I have an AA degree, 1 year away from my BA.

I'm applying now...think I have a chance?

Bajan Hopeful · July 7th, 2009, 00:16

You never know...always take a chance.

rjmore · July 7th, 2009, 01:33

No hiring this year for anything but cadets. That could change of course but for now that is the deal.

When we do start again expect the competitive mins to be fairly high. As for the SO job, we have a lot of SOs that have 3,000-4,000 hours or more when hired. There is a misconception for some that it is an entry level flying job and it isn't, there is no SO program just an SO job. If you are looking for entry level then the cadet program is the only way to go.

knma'91 · July 8th, 2009, 02:04

I applied on June 30th and now waiting for a reply.

fly.addict · July 8th, 2009, 16:19

Any updates?

Has anyone got any response from them?

PGT · July 8th, 2009, 22:21

Yes a few people have been hired and had interviews. Next wave of interviews is July 13th I believe.

HOWEVER

They will NOT pay for your trip out to HK for the first 2(TWO) interviews. Deal breaker for me.

kellwolf · July 10th, 2009, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGT

Yes a few people have been hired and had interviews. Next wave of interviews is July 13th I believe.

HOWEVER

They will NOT pay for your trip out to HK for the first 2(TWO) interviews. Deal breaker for me.

Yeah, Delta would only let me non-rev for one. Then I'd have to pay ZED high fares.

rjmore · July 10th, 2009, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Yeah, Delta would only let me non-rev for one. Then I'd have to pay ZED high fares.

Grab a jumpseat on Polar, easiest way to get to Asia. However, I see you are already in the CRJ so you would be better off waiting until you have the time for SO and applying that way when hiring picks back up again.

kellwolf · July 10th, 2009, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjmore

Grab a jumpseat on Polar, easiest way to get to Asia. However, I see you are already in the CRJ so you would be better off waiting until you have the time for SO and applying that way when hiring picks back up again.

Yeah, I actually have the time, and I tossed in an app back when they were accepting them. I have a feeling when they start hiring, I'm gonna be at the back of a LOOOONG line.

rjmore · July 10th, 2009, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Yeah, I actually have the time, and I tossed in an app back when they were accepting them. I have a feeling when they start hiring, I'm gonna be at the back of a LOOOONG line.

Keep updating even now, they look for that sort of thing. They are looking for people who go through the effort to work here more than anything else. Everyone knows that the gouge is out there and they expect you to get it, study it, and be ready when the time comes. Maybe when we start again you'll have the time for DEFO, just keep updating.

Doug Taylor · July 10th, 2009, 22:23

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Originally Posted by rjmore

Keep updating even now, they look for that sort of thing.

When the recovery happens, and it will one day, there won't be a sign that says "Hey guys, jump right in!", it'll have been in effect for months and by the time you think it's "safe", you'll be on the tail end.

I've been thru two recessions after I moved out and that's kind of how they go.

fly.addict · July 11th, 2009, 13:36

Isn't this cadet pilot program for non-licensed people?

June 19th, 2009, 19:46	#1
chris Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 354	Cathay Cadet Program Word on PPrune is that Cathay has just opened their cadet program to all nationalities. I dont have work for CX nor do I know anything about their cadet program, but this might be of some interest to the non-licensed pilots around here. Check out the Cathay website on how to apply. http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ot_application __________________ "One of the problems of flying a jet is that you don't have a lot of time to admire the scenery." - MacGyver

June 30th, 2009, 14:51	#2
scramjet Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Area Posts: 2,432	Re: Cathay Cadet Program That's awesome, Cathay's been on my list for a long time, although I hear things aren't as great over there as they used to be. I'm kind of surprised that they're doing something like that in this economy. __________________ Proud Penn Stater

June 30th, 2009, 14:53	#3
scramjet Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Area Posts: 2,432	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I wonder what the class start dates are like? I probably have zero chance, but it would be neat if I could get a class for after I graduate from college next May. Hate to wait to apply, I waited on Etihad's and now they're not accepting applications for cadet... __________________ Proud Penn Stater

June 30th, 2009, 15:13	#4
scramjet Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Area Posts: 2,432	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Based off what I'm seeing on pprune, I bet there will be even more airlines that open up their programs to foreigners. A lot of the speculation on pprune regarding economics seems valid: the only thing the airline pays for is training, no housing etc like with already licensed expats and plus they get you for a contractually agreed timeframe or "their money back." That does seem to be a good deal on their part. Wonder if cadets get membership in the union (Hong Kong Air Officers Association)? Not sure how the labor laws would work over there... __________________ Proud Penn Stater

June 30th, 2009, 18:52	#5
E_Dawg Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: usa Posts: 5,210	Re: Cathay Cadet Program You'll want to check HK housing costs if what you say is true about a lack of expat housing allowance for cadets (it's not cheap)

June 30th, 2009, 23:18	#6
Bajan Hopeful Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: BGI Posts: 46	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Not applying or anything in that manner but how strict would they be with this. Just say for an example someone has all the requriements sans the A level science subjects?

July 1st, 2009, 01:36	#7
Sachi Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 41	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Well that's good news. Although I believe every prospective student should work their way up to the big shiny jets, it's great that airlines like Cathay have these programs. Like a Etihad captain told me once "Every pilot should earn their way to the left seat of an airliner however getting on a cadet program is like winning the lottery and shouldn't be passed up!"

July 4th, 2009, 00:52	#10
7700 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: KBED Posts: 34	Re: Cathay Cadet Program just curious, but is this something an American with a college degree could enroll in, perhaps one that already has a CFI?

July 4th, 2009, 01:30	#11
b3181981 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: deltona Posts: 239	Re: Cathay Cadet Program why not just apply for a second officer position?

July 6th, 2009, 22:02	#12
mdspytko Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 48	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I was wondering if anyone knows if they are hiring for the 2nd Officer position? I did see on their website the info and their mins but does anyone know for sure? Thanks.

July 6th, 2009, 22:24	#13
Gonzo Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,384	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Last I heard no SO, FO, or DEC classes. That was from a CA that is in the pool for a DEFO. __________________

July 6th, 2009, 22:41	#14
PGT Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: IA Posts: 4,342	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I have an AA degree, 1 year away from my BA. I'm applying now...think I have a chance? __________________ College Student 270/20. CSEL/CMEL. CFI soon. 11/20 PUNBAT 8. "The good old days weren't all that good, and tomorrow's not as bad as it seems"

July 7th, 2009, 00:16	#15
Bajan Hopeful Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: BGI Posts: 46	Re: Cathay Cadet Program You never know...always take a chance.

July 7th, 2009, 01:33	#16
rjmore Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 458	Re: Cathay Cadet Program No hiring this year for anything but cadets. That could change of course but for now that is the deal. When we do start again expect the competitive mins to be fairly high. As for the SO job, we have a lot of SOs that have 3,000-4,000 hours or more when hired. There is a misconception for some that it is an entry level flying job and it isn't, there is no SO program just an SO job. If you are looking for entry level then the cadet program is the only way to go.

July 8th, 2009, 02:04	#17
knma'91 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 25	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I applied on June 30th and now waiting for a reply.

July 8th, 2009, 16:19	#18
fly.addict Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: KMSP & LPPT Posts: 44	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Any updates? Has anyone got any response from them?

July 8th, 2009, 22:21	#19
PGT Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: IA Posts: 4,342	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Yes a few people have been hired and had interviews. Next wave of interviews is July 13th I believe. HOWEVER They will NOT pay for your trip out to HK for the first 2(TWO) interviews. Deal breaker for me. __________________ College Student 270/20. CSEL/CMEL. CFI soon. 11/20 PUNBAT 8. "The good old days weren't all that good, and tomorrow's not as bad as it seems"

July 11th, 2009, 13:36	#25
fly.addict Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: KMSP & LPPT Posts: 44	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Isn't this cadet pilot program for non-licensed people?

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