Cathay Cadet Program - Page 2

PGT · July 12th, 2009, 12:04

Under Secondary Education Results *

Do I really have to put in all of my high school classes and grades?

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Originally Posted by fly.addict

Isn't this cadet pilot program for non-licensed people?

No flying experience required.

Cathay doesn't say anything about having licenses

ds9497 · July 13th, 2009, 12:53

Hi guys, while this is my first post on the site, I have been around for a while just reading and gathering info, but I guess now I decided to join in. Anyway, I applied for the cadet program at the end of June to try my luck and now I'm just waiting. I was wondering how many others have heard anything if they applied and how long it took for them to hear back. Especially guys from the U.S. since it was just opened to all nationalities. Thanks!

PGT · July 13th, 2009, 20:57

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Originally Posted by ds9497

Hi guys, while this is my first post on the site, I have been around for a while just reading and gathering info, but I guess now I decided to join in. Anyway, I applied for the cadet program at the end of June to try my luck and now I'm just waiting. I was wondering how many others have heard anything if they applied and how long it took for them to hear back. Especially guys from the U.S. since it was just opened to all nationalities. Thanks!

I haven't seen 1 American being taken (reading from other forums), mostly from Australia and HK now.

ds9497 · July 13th, 2009, 21:06

Yea, I was told 8 weeks, which would be about September before I heard anything. Maybe they are looking at US applicants later.

PGT · July 13th, 2009, 21:13

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Originally Posted by ds9497

Yea, I was told 8 weeks, which would be about September before I heard anything. Maybe they are looking at US applicants later.

They're telling everyone 8 weeks but people have been getting called back earlier.

PM Sent!

scramjet · July 14th, 2009, 07:43

What exactly are "concessionary travel benefits?" Are they the same as the nonrev privileges that US airlines have? I've heard rumors that CX makes standby passenger-employees buy ID90 tickets...

rjmore · July 14th, 2009, 11:03

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Originally Posted by scramjet

What exactly are "concessionary travel benefits?" Are they the same as the nonrev privileges that US airlines have? I've heard rumors that CX makes standby passenger-employees buy ID90 tickets...

This is true, our employee passes are roughly ID90 prices. They are also still paper tickets that must be printed in Hong Kong. No spur of the moment trips as ZED passes etc. must also be printed in Hong Kong.

MJetR · July 15th, 2009, 10:24

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Originally Posted by PGT

Under Secondary Education Results *

Do I really have to put in all of my high school classes and grades?

I have a university degree, I feel like those grades would be better to put in. But it looks like they want they high school grades.

What did you guys do?

PGT · July 15th, 2009, 11:27

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Originally Posted by MJetR

I have a university degree, I feel like those grades would be better to put in. But it looks like they want they high school grades.

What did you guys do?

I just put 1 semester of my senior year. I think putting Junior and Sr. year of HS should be enough

ds9497 · July 15th, 2009, 11:45

I put in my senior year high school grades then my degree info and stuff from college. Wasn't really sure what they wanted either

MJetR · July 15th, 2009, 12:24

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Originally Posted by PGT

I just put 1 semester of my senior year. I think putting Junior and Sr. year of HS should be enough

Is there an age restriction? Etihad was 26 and explicitly shown. However CX has no indication of age preference.

As for the High School grades, not sure what they want, Id much rather show my university grades.

PGT · July 15th, 2009, 21:07

I know 1 guy from the US and several from Canada have been called to the interviews in HK. Maybe it's what you put under interview location?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJetR

Is there an age restriction? Etihad was 26 and explicitly shown. However CX has no indication of age preference.

As for the High School grades, not sure what they want, Id much rather show my university grades.

No age limitation on CX cadet program.

I would have love to put my college grades as well.

knma'91 · July 15th, 2009, 23:15

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Originally Posted by ds9497

Yea, I was told 8 weeks, which would be about September before I heard anything. Maybe they are looking at US applicants later.

I applied on June 30 and waiting for my reply. Not getting my hopes up, like PGT says and from what I have heard Aussie and Hong Kong people as of now.

scramjet · July 16th, 2009, 09:28

Wonder what the contractual commitment is? I know at Etihad it was eight years or paying back the training costs.

scotland laddy · July 23rd, 2009, 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJetR

Is there an age restriction? Etihad was 26 and explicitly shown. However CX has no indication of age preference.

As for the High School grades, not sure what they want, Id much rather show my university grades.

I think the reason they want HS grades is that the grading system is entirely different to the American system. It is more like a British grading system. They want to see things like O levels and A level grades from what i understand about the Hong Kong grading system. These classes are more or less college level classes and you have to stay on an extra couple of years to take these classes/tests.

Kasdanh · August 4th, 2009, 12:04

I applied about 3-4 weeks ago and still haven't heard anything. I thought they would email/call you one way or the other right?

ChasenSFO · August 5th, 2009, 15:21

High school grades? Wow I'd be screwed if I had to present those. Yay for good grades in community college!

Minima-No-Contact · August 14th, 2009, 21:23

The cadet program seems to be the way future recruitment is headed here. No DESO/FO hiring forecast, but they have increased the number of Cadet courses to go through Adelaide each year.
The program IS getting better. The union has been able to secure child education allowance and a housing deal probably isn't far off either. It will probably only start once upgrade to FO takes place though (3-4yrs typically)

Those waiting on DEFO, will be waiting a while. If the union has anything to do with it, it will never happen again. It has caused too many problems for the company over the last few years, it would be surprising to see it happen again. By-pass pay issues, seniority issues... the list goes on.
Having said that, Cathay do what they want and worry about it later. So anything is possible. At the end of the day, its a great job here in Hong Kong. Great lifestyle and more time off than any job I've ever had before.

david2000 · August 15th, 2009, 00:16

Thanks for the info. minima-no contact,did you went thru the cadet program? have any one heard any thing yet?

E_Dawg · August 15th, 2009, 00:31

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Originally Posted by Minima-No-Contact

The cadet program seems to be the way future recruitment is headed here. No DESO/FO hiring forecast, but they have increased the number of Cadet courses to go through Adelaide each year.
The program IS getting better. The union has been able to secure child education allowance and a housing deal probably isn't far off either. It will probably only start once upgrade to FO takes place though (3-4yrs typically)

Those waiting on DEFO, will be waiting a while. If the union has anything to do with it, it will never happen again. It has caused too many problems for the company over the last few years, it would be surprising to see it happen again. By-pass pay issues, seniority issues... the list goes on.
Having said that, Cathay do what they want and worry about it later. So anything is possible. At the end of the day, its a great job here in Hong Kong. Great lifestyle and more time off than any job I've ever had before.

Are they running cadet classes currently? How long does it take for cadets to get to the line once training begins? When does seniority begin to accrue?

Minima-No-Contact · August 15th, 2009, 07:01

Hi guys, no problem.
No, I joined as a S/O. The minimums requirements state you will need 1000hrs for S/O, but realistically guys that get hired generally have at least 3000hrs. I had over 5000 with 2000 jet hrs at date of joining. Other guys had heavy turboprop time and then others even from the air-force, some coming off fast jets.

The cadet program is constantly running and Cathay are stepping things up a notch right now, I believe they are doubling the number of classes to go through each year (how many classes that is, I'm not sure). Anyone can apply, but they have said they want you to have a 'tie to Hong Kong'... whatever that means...

I'm not 100% sure on when seniority starts for a cadet... I think it may be date of joining the course in Adelaide, Australia. The course is approx 14 months long 'down-under' then you come to Hong Kong and start aircraft conversion, which from ground-school to sim to the line, is give or take 2 months.

Just came across this, hope it helps:http://www.askcaptainlim.com/index.p...ests&Itemid=75

joy1982 · August 16th, 2009, 02:44

where they will be conducting the tests & interviews ? HK?

ClearedForOption · August 19th, 2009, 19:59

I've finished my app - except for my HS grades then I can submit it, still waiting for them as I graduated about 15 years ago. I hope they will consider someone who already has a bunch of flight experience. (and is from the USA) I was hoping to go the DESO/DEFO way - but I would be happy to hit the reset button for the opportunity to work for CX. (which has been my goal since I started this whole aviation thing 10 years ago)

BaronRouge · August 20th, 2009, 18:30

Is there an age limit to join this program? I couldn't find one and I am not in my twenties...
I only have a Private, instrument and about 600 hours and decided to leave my Engineering career. I do have a good pay but I am really tired with it.

Good luck to all!

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Originally Posted by ClearedForOption

I've finished my app - except for my HS grades then I can submit it, still waiting for them as I graduated about 15 years ago. I hope they will consider someone who already has a bunch of flight experience. (and is from the USA) I was hoping to go the DESO/DEFO way - but I would be happy to hit the reset button for the opportunity to work for CX. (which has been my goal since I started this whole aviation thing 10 years ago)

PGT · August 20th, 2009, 20:51

No age limit for this one.

CX doesn't care if you have 0 or 1000 hours, they hire personalities. They've picked up 18 year olds with no experience.

(just what I read on various websites)

July 13th, 2009, 12:53	#27
ds9497 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Hi guys, while this is my first post on the site, I have been around for a while just reading and gathering info, but I guess now I decided to join in. Anyway, I applied for the cadet program at the end of June to try my luck and now I'm just waiting. I was wondering how many others have heard anything if they applied and how long it took for them to hear back. Especially guys from the U.S. since it was just opened to all nationalities. Thanks!

July 13th, 2009, 21:06	#29
ds9497 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Yea, I was told 8 weeks, which would be about September before I heard anything. Maybe they are looking at US applicants later.

July 14th, 2009, 07:43	#31
scramjet Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Area Posts: 2,432	Re: Cathay Cadet Program What exactly are "concessionary travel benefits?" Are they the same as the nonrev privileges that US airlines have? I've heard rumors that CX makes standby passenger-employees buy ID90 tickets... __________________ Proud Penn Stater

July 15th, 2009, 11:45	#35
ds9497 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I put in my senior year high school grades then my degree info and stuff from college. Wasn't really sure what they wanted either

July 16th, 2009, 09:28	#39
scramjet Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Area Posts: 2,432	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Wonder what the contractual commitment is? I know at Etihad it was eight years or paying back the training costs. __________________ Proud Penn Stater

August 4th, 2009, 12:04	#41
Kasdanh Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Surprise Posts: 20	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I applied about 3-4 weeks ago and still haven't heard anything. I thought they would email/call you one way or the other right?

August 5th, 2009, 15:21	#42
ChasenSFO Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SFO Posts: 1,329	Re: Cathay Cadet Program High school grades? Wow I'd be screwed if I had to present those. Yay for good grades in community college! __________________ The term "First Officer" was invented because Les Abend is never second.

August 14th, 2009, 21:23	#43
Minima-No-Contact Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Australia/Hong Kong Posts: 235	Re: Cathay Cadet Program The cadet program seems to be the way future recruitment is headed here. No DESO/FO hiring forecast, but they have increased the number of Cadet courses to go through Adelaide each year. The program IS getting better. The union has been able to secure child education allowance and a housing deal probably isn't far off either. It will probably only start once upgrade to FO takes place though (3-4yrs typically) Those waiting on DEFO, will be waiting a while. If the union has anything to do with it, it will never happen again. It has caused too many problems for the company over the last few years, it would be surprising to see it happen again. By-pass pay issues, seniority issues... the list goes on. Having said that, Cathay do what they want and worry about it later. So anything is possible. At the end of the day, its a great job here in Hong Kong. Great lifestyle and more time off than any job I've ever had before.

August 15th, 2009, 00:16	#44
david2000 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 69	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Thanks for the info. minima-no contact,did you went thru the cadet program? have any one heard any thing yet?

August 15th, 2009, 07:01	#46
Minima-No-Contact Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Australia/Hong Kong Posts: 235	Re: Cathay Cadet Program Hi guys, no problem. No, I joined as a S/O. The minimums requirements state you will need 1000hrs for S/O, but realistically guys that get hired generally have at least 3000hrs. I had over 5000 with 2000 jet hrs at date of joining. Other guys had heavy turboprop time and then others even from the air-force, some coming off fast jets. The cadet program is constantly running and Cathay are stepping things up a notch right now, I believe they are doubling the number of classes to go through each year (how many classes that is, I'm not sure). Anyone can apply, but they have said they want you to have a 'tie to Hong Kong'... whatever that means... I'm not 100% sure on when seniority starts for a cadet... I think it may be date of joining the course in Adelaide, Australia. The course is approx 14 months long 'down-under' then you come to Hong Kong and start aircraft conversion, which from ground-school to sim to the line, is give or take 2 months. Just came across this, hope it helps:http://www.askcaptainlim.com/index.p...ests&Itemid=75 Last edited by Minima-No-Contact; August 15th, 2009 at 07:11. Reason: Attach website

August 16th, 2009, 02:44	#47
joy1982 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: calcutta Posts: 17	Re: Cathay Cadet Program where they will be conducting the tests & interviews ? HK?

August 19th, 2009, 19:59	#48
ClearedForOption Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 265	Re: Cathay Cadet Program I've finished my app - except for my HS grades then I can submit it, still waiting for them as I graduated about 15 years ago. I hope they will consider someone who already has a bunch of flight experience. (and is from the USA) I was hoping to go the DESO/DEFO way - but I would be happy to hit the reset button for the opportunity to work for CX. (which has been my goal since I started this whole aviation thing 10 years ago) __________________ Richard J. Praser COMM SE/ME.CFI CL-65 & BE1900 SIC ~2800TT Counting down to furlough... looking for work. <----- 'Dr. Jones' and Me after an AOPA film shoot. Awesome.

August 20th, 2009, 20:51	#50
PGT Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: IA Posts: 4,342	Re: Cathay Cadet Program No age limit for this one. CX doesn't care if you have 0 or 1000 hours, they hire personalities. They've picked up 18 year olds with no experience. (just what I read on various websites) __________________ College Student 270/20. CSEL/CMEL. CFI soon. 11/20 PUNBAT 8. "The good old days weren't all that good, and tomorrow's not as bad as it seems"

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