Early Decision

willythepilot · January 19th, 2004, 13:22

I am a junior in high school and am hoping to attend the Prescott campus of ER when I graduate high school. Do you guys think I could be accepted *without* early decision with:

-3.0 GPA
-1250 SAT
-200 flight hours
-PPL, Instrument

Thanks for your help. I am trying to decide whether or not early decision will help my admission chances. I really would like to avoid ED to keep my options open, but I from what I have heard, ED helps if you don't have the best grades. True?

EatSleepFly · January 19th, 2004, 13:50

Yes, you'll be fine. They only care about your money anyways.

kellwolf · January 19th, 2004, 17:04

You should do fine. I wish I had been in your position when I was in HS. I knew I wanted to fly, but since I didn't have 20/20 vision, I figured it was a lost cause. If only JetCareers had been around then! Oh hell, the internet wasn't even around then, but I digress....

I would try to get that GPA up a few notches to make you more competitive for scholarships. Also, you might want to (please no thrown objects) look into CAP in you area. Looks good on a transcript, and it could help with landing a scholarship.

Jonnyb9040 · January 19th, 2004, 18:39

You should get in with no problem. I got in with a 2.7 GPA and I got scholarship money with my 24 ACT score.

stuckingfk · January 19th, 2004, 20:46

Hey,

glad to see you are motivated. But with those kinds of hour, don't go to Embry Riddle and waste your money. Go to a state school, get your CFI and instruct part time. That would be a much better plan in my opinion.

EatSleepFly · January 19th, 2004, 20:59

[ QUOTE ]
Hey,

glad to see you are motivated. But with those kinds of hour, don't go to Embry Riddle and waste your money. Go to a state school, get your CFI and instruct part time. That would be a much better plan in my opinion.

[/ QUOTE ]

I second that.

willythepilot · January 19th, 2004, 22:03

I appreciate all of the feedback, guys. Now what if I told you that I wasn't planning on flying at ER, rather at an outside FBO. Would you still advise that I choose a different school?

stuckingfk · January 19th, 2004, 22:31

Well what would you major in at Embry Riddle? I am not going to knock its academics, but I am sure you can find a better program somewhere else for a much cheaper price tag.

kellwolf · January 19th, 2004, 23:16

Okay, I'm gonna throw my two cents worth (actually, if you figure inflation from the first time I was in college, it's probably a quarter)....

I started out as a theatre major at Mississippi State, got bored b/c I didn't want to be waiting tables or starving as an actor the rest of my life. So I switched to Pre-Vet. Yeah, big jump. The problem with both of those was that they didn't hold my intrest, so I didn't study, so I got irritated with school and dropped out. Moved to Florida and work for Disney, yeah THAT was a great plan....

Fast forward three or four years, and I'm back in school at ERAU, albeit via distance learning. Ya know, now that I've found a major that I'm passionate about, I have fun, and I actually WANT to study.

My point (and there is one in there somewhere), is find something that you are interested in and study that. If it's aviation, great. If it's history, that's cool too. Just make sure it's something you'll stick with. If you plan on flying professionally, they just want to see that you've got it done, not what your major was.

flyn_ace_99 · January 20th, 2004, 15:01

ERAU only cares about how much money you want to spend. But having good grades helps get scholarships, if you can find them.

Glad to see you are going in with some time under your belt.

If you have your heart set on going to ER. You just might. It might be cheeper at a state school, but if you are really looking for great professors, some of the best in the world are at ERAU PRC. As a 2003 graduate, the only thing that bothered me about the academics was the price. If you are willing to pay the price, it is worth it.

I agree that it is best to get your raitings done elsewhere, I am currently at ATP in Jacksonville and have just done my first solo x-country. That is further than ER ever took me. (But I won't go into that story again.)

Anyway, good luck on your decision. It's a hard one. Just do your homework on all your options an make sure you want to pay the price.

Marilyn

Good luck with your decision.

Marilyn

willythepilot · January 20th, 2004, 15:21

First of all, thanks so much for all of the replies.

Iruppert: I would major in AeroSci.

When I look back at my last couple years, I conclude that I only really apply myself 100% to things that I am passionate about, and one of the few things in that category has been flying. I feel that a school program centered around aviation would receive my true best efforts, and I could excel at a place like ER or any other school with an extensive aviation program.

I would, hopefully, receive good grades and learn a tremendous about aviation at the same time. I am worried that I wouldn't be motivated enough to bust my ass at another program, i.e. non-aviation.

One of the reasons that I have been favoring ER so much, is the amount of good things that I hear about the academics of the place. On the other end, however, I have heard terrible things about the flight program, which is why I have decided to fly at an outside flight school if I go to ER.

Will

RiddlePilot · January 20th, 2004, 19:49

If you're planning on an Aeronautical Science degree, they'll make you fly at ERAU. The way I see most people doing it is to become an Aeronautical (Aerospace?) Studies major, and just do flying across the field from ERAU. The latter will save you bookoo dinero. Your choice, really.

willythepilot · January 20th, 2004, 20:36

So what happens to someone that already has the ratings that this program gives you? Do you still have to do the flight program? I would really like to take that package of classes, but I will already have a lot of the ratings...

montanapilot · January 20th, 2004, 23:28

since you've got so many hours built up i would say go to the state school. The airlines dont care what the degree is. You should find a degree in something other than aviation that you like, just in case the airlines start struggling

thats my .02

FalconCapt · January 20th, 2004, 23:39

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just in case the airlines start struggling

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I didn't realize the airlines stopped stuggling...

RiddlePilot · January 21st, 2004, 01:30

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So what happens to someone that already has the ratings that this program gives you? Do you still have to do the flight program? I would really like to take that package of classes, but I will already have a lot of the ratings...

[/ QUOTE ]

As I mentioned in another topic in this forum, I started the ERAU program "green," so I'm not really the guy you should be asking for solid information on this. Other than the usual FA109 guys (coming into the AS degree with just a Private ASEL), I've only known a couple guys that came in with more certs/ratings. What ERAU generally has you do is go through a transition course or two, to basically "Riddle-ize" you. You'd have to speak with someone in the staff at ERAU to figure out your specific situation.

ERJ-135 · January 21st, 2004, 11:42

Tell us what you want to do after graduation, then we can suggest a course of action.

willythepilot · January 21st, 2004, 19:10

Well, I'd love to be man-handled as a pilot for the regionals for a while, then hopefully move up one day to the big time. I thought that ERAU at Prescott would be fun becuase I might be able to get a job at a sightseeing company or something along those lines.

I really don't want to study something other than aviation in college, although I realize that in the airline industry, you need a backup just in case...

Will

wizard96 · January 22nd, 2004, 06:35

Get a management, engineering, engineering technology, or human factors degree instead of the aeronautical science degree. Riddle will still let you take their flying course if you want to pay for it. That way you have a fall back position if times are difficult.

braidkid · January 22nd, 2004, 07:14

Riddle me this...
Why on earth would you spend over $100k for a college degree when you can get the same education for half the price? I'm assuming your parents are paying right? Otherwise you're going to be spending an additional $60k for the same degree and same ratings you could have gotten elsewhere. If you have an additional $60k to throw around, then by all means, go to Riddle.

Just my two cents...

arizonaflyer · January 25th, 2004, 00:02

Sounds like you really want to fly, but remember what could happen if you lose your medical. If aviation is the only field that interest you, try a degree in AeroSci that will get you the A&P license as a major and use management as a minor. That way, you will always be involved in aviation and have a couple fallbacks. With 200 hrs, keep doing the FBO route while in school.

flyn_ace_99 · January 25th, 2004, 08:15

[ QUOTE ]
If you're planning on an Aeronautical Science degree, they'll make you fly at ERAU. The way I see most people doing it is to become an Aeronautical (Aerospace?) Studies major, and just do flying across the field from ERAU. The latter will save you bookoo dinero. Your choice, really.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is not true in all cases. A friend of mine came in with his Commercial and did the Aeronautical Science Program. They gave him the credits for what he had flown but made him take a class that was like a check ride to varify that he could fly. I don't know if they have changed it so that those coming in with hours have to go with Pro Aeronautics, but usually that has completely different qualifications to graduate.

Like I said before, the Academics at Riddle, although expensive, are excelent. If you can afford it, do it! Look into all your degree options and keep asking questions.

Keep me posted!

Marilyn

RiddlePilot · January 26th, 2004, 10:19

[ QUOTE ]
This is not true in all cases. A friend of mine came in with his Commercial and did the Aeronautical Science Program. They gave him the credits for what he had flown but made him take a class that was like a check ride to varify that he could fly.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh huh. Transition course. Just like I posted earlier in this thread.

ERAU_Intern · January 26th, 2004, 14:03

Let me interject with some "experience based" input. The "Transition" courses that RiddlePilot speaks of are no laughing matter. I took them, and have a few extra gray hairs to prove it. If you intend on getting an AS degree from ERAU PRC, then get some refresher training prior to entering the Riddle flight program. Oh, and check any ego you may have developed at the door. I neglected to do either, and my A$$ was put in check in short order. Good luck whatever your decision may be. Just remember to arm yourself with as much information as you can before you "jump in".

project7 · January 27th, 2004, 14:28

What most people don't realize is that there is a HUGE price difference between distance learning and on-campus degrees. If you are not planning on the Aeronautical Science degree (flying in riddle planes) then save your money. The distance learning degrees are actually a good deal, and you can get your CFI and instruct while you're at it.

Paying a ton more money just to live in Preskit and fly at North-aire would be a total waste.

January 19th, 2004, 13:22	#1
willythepilot Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 26	Early Decision I am a junior in high school and am hoping to attend the Prescott campus of ER when I graduate high school. Do you guys think I could be accepted without early decision with: -3.0 GPA -1250 SAT -200 flight hours -PPL, Instrument Thanks for your help. I am trying to decide whether or not early decision will help my admission chances. I really would like to avoid ED to keep my options open, but I from what I have heard, ED helps if you don't have the best grades. True?

January 19th, 2004, 13:50	#2
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Early Decision Yes, you'll be fine. They only care about your money anyways.

January 19th, 2004, 17:04	#3
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,230	Re: Early Decision You should do fine. I wish I had been in your position when I was in HS. I knew I wanted to fly, but since I didn't have 20/20 vision, I figured it was a lost cause. If only JetCareers had been around then! Oh hell, the internet wasn't even around then, but I digress.... I would try to get that GPA up a few notches to make you more competitive for scholarships. Also, you might want to (please no thrown objects) look into CAP in you area. Looks good on a transcript, and it could help with landing a scholarship.

January 19th, 2004, 18:39	#4
Jonnyb9040 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 38	Re: Early Decision You should get in with no problem. I got in with a 2.7 GPA and I got scholarship money with my 24 ACT score.

January 19th, 2004, 20:46	#5
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,630	Re: Early Decision Hey, glad to see you are motivated. But with those kinds of hour, don't go to Embry Riddle and waste your money. Go to a state school, get your CFI and instruct part time. That would be a much better plan in my opinion.

January 19th, 2004, 20:59	#6
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Early Decision [ QUOTE ] Hey, glad to see you are motivated. But with those kinds of hour, don't go to Embry Riddle and waste your money. Go to a state school, get your CFI and instruct part time. That would be a much better plan in my opinion. [/ QUOTE ] I second that.

January 19th, 2004, 22:03	#7
willythepilot Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 26	Re: Early Decision I appreciate all of the feedback, guys. Now what if I told you that I wasn't planning on flying at ER, rather at an outside FBO. Would you still advise that I choose a different school?

January 19th, 2004, 22:31	#8
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,630	Re: Early Decision Well what would you major in at Embry Riddle? I am not going to knock its academics, but I am sure you can find a better program somewhere else for a much cheaper price tag.

January 19th, 2004, 23:16	#9
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,230	Re: Early Decision Okay, I'm gonna throw my two cents worth (actually, if you figure inflation from the first time I was in college, it's probably a quarter).... I started out as a theatre major at Mississippi State, got bored b/c I didn't want to be waiting tables or starving as an actor the rest of my life. So I switched to Pre-Vet. Yeah, big jump. The problem with both of those was that they didn't hold my intrest, so I didn't study, so I got irritated with school and dropped out. Moved to Florida and work for Disney, yeah THAT was a great plan.... Fast forward three or four years, and I'm back in school at ERAU, albeit via distance learning. Ya know, now that I've found a major that I'm passionate about, I have fun, and I actually WANT to study. My point (and there is one in there somewhere), is find something that you are interested in and study that. If it's aviation, great. If it's history, that's cool too. Just make sure it's something you'll stick with. If you plan on flying professionally, they just want to see that you've got it done, not what your major was.

January 20th, 2004, 15:01	#10
flyn_ace_99 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: not apparently in this universe Posts: 248	Re: Early Decision ERAU only cares about how much money you want to spend. But having good grades helps get scholarships, if you can find them. Glad to see you are going in with some time under your belt. If you have your heart set on going to ER. You just might. It might be cheeper at a state school, but if you are really looking for great professors, some of the best in the world are at ERAU PRC. As a 2003 graduate, the only thing that bothered me about the academics was the price. If you are willing to pay the price, it is worth it. I agree that it is best to get your raitings done elsewhere, I am currently at ATP in Jacksonville and have just done my first solo x-country. That is further than ER ever took me. (But I won't go into that story again.) Anyway, good luck on your decision. It's a hard one. Just do your homework on all your options an make sure you want to pay the price. Marilyn Good luck with your decision. Marilyn

January 20th, 2004, 15:21	#11
willythepilot Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 26	Re: Early Decision First of all, thanks so much for all of the replies. Iruppert: I would major in AeroSci. When I look back at my last couple years, I conclude that I only really apply myself 100% to things that I am passionate about, and one of the few things in that category has been flying. I feel that a school program centered around aviation would receive my true best efforts, and I could excel at a place like ER or any other school with an extensive aviation program. I would, hopefully, receive good grades and learn a tremendous about aviation at the same time. I am worried that I wouldn't be motivated enough to bust my ass at another program, i.e. non-aviation. One of the reasons that I have been favoring ER so much, is the amount of good things that I hear about the academics of the place. On the other end, however, I have heard terrible things about the flight program, which is why I have decided to fly at an outside flight school if I go to ER. Will

January 20th, 2004, 19:49	#12
RiddlePilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 928	Re: Early Decision If you're planning on an Aeronautical Science degree, they'll make you fly at ERAU. The way I see most people doing it is to become an Aeronautical (Aerospace?) Studies major, and just do flying across the field from ERAU. The latter will save you bookoo dinero. Your choice, really.

January 20th, 2004, 20:36	#13
willythepilot Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 26	Re: Early Decision So what happens to someone that already has the ratings that this program gives you? Do you still have to do the flight program? I would really like to take that package of classes, but I will already have a lot of the ratings...

January 20th, 2004, 23:28	#14
montanapilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 1,643	Re: Early Decision since you've got so many hours built up i would say go to the state school. The airlines dont care what the degree is. You should find a degree in something other than aviation that you like, just in case the airlines start struggling thats my .02

January 20th, 2004, 23:39	#15
FalconCapt Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 489	Re: Early Decision [ QUOTE ] just in case the airlines start struggling [/ QUOTE ] I didn't realize the airlines *stopped* stuggling...

January 21st, 2004, 01:30	#16
RiddlePilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 928	Re: Early Decision [ QUOTE ] So what happens to someone that already has the ratings that this program gives you? Do you still have to do the flight program? I would really like to take that package of classes, but I will already have a lot of the ratings... [/ QUOTE ] As I mentioned in another topic in this forum, I started the ERAU program "green," so I'm not really the guy you should be asking for solid information on this. Other than the usual FA109 guys (coming into the AS degree with just a Private ASEL), I've only known a couple guys that came in with more certs/ratings. What ERAU generally has you do is go through a transition course or two, to basically "Riddle-ize" you. You'd have to speak with someone in the staff at ERAU to figure out your specific situation.

January 21st, 2004, 11:42	#17
ERJ-135 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 277	Re: Early Decision Tell us what you want to do after graduation, then we can suggest a course of action.

January 21st, 2004, 19:10	#18
willythepilot Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 26	Re: Early Decision Well, I'd love to be man-handled as a pilot for the regionals for a while, then hopefully move up one day to the big time. I thought that ERAU at Prescott would be fun becuase I might be able to get a job at a sightseeing company or something along those lines. I really don't want to study something other than aviation in college, although I realize that in the airline industry, you need a backup just in case... Will

January 22nd, 2004, 06:35	#19
wizard96 Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: CT Posts: 29	Re: Early Decision Get a management, engineering, engineering technology, or human factors degree instead of the aeronautical science degree. Riddle will still let you take their flying course if you want to pay for it. That way you have a fall back position if times are difficult.

January 22nd, 2004, 07:14	#20
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	Re: Early Decision Riddle me this... Why on earth would you spend over $100k for a college degree when you can get the same education for half the price? I'm assuming your parents are paying right? Otherwise you're going to be spending an additional $60k for the same degree and same ratings you could have gotten elsewhere. If you have an additional $60k to throw around, then by all means, go to Riddle. Just my two cents...

January 25th, 2004, 00:02	#21
arizonaflyer Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: arizona Posts: 54	Re: Early Decision Sounds like you really want to fly, but remember what could happen if you lose your medical. If aviation is the only field that interest you, try a degree in AeroSci that will get you the A&P license as a major and use management as a minor. That way, you will always be involved in aviation and have a couple fallbacks. With 200 hrs, keep doing the FBO route while in school.

January 25th, 2004, 08:15	#22
flyn_ace_99 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: not apparently in this universe Posts: 248	Re: Early Decision [ QUOTE ] If you're planning on an Aeronautical Science degree, they'll make you fly at ERAU. The way I see most people doing it is to become an Aeronautical (Aerospace?) Studies major, and just do flying across the field from ERAU. The latter will save you bookoo dinero. Your choice, really. [/ QUOTE ] This is not true in all cases. A friend of mine came in with his Commercial and did the Aeronautical Science Program. They gave him the credits for what he had flown but made him take a class that was like a check ride to varify that he could fly. I don't know if they have changed it so that those coming in with hours have to go with Pro Aeronautics, but usually that has completely different qualifications to graduate. Like I said before, the Academics at Riddle, although expensive, are excelent. If you can afford it, do it! Look into all your degree options and keep asking questions. Keep me posted! Marilyn

January 26th, 2004, 10:19	#23
RiddlePilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 928	Re: Early Decision [ QUOTE ] This is not true in all cases. A friend of mine came in with his Commercial and did the Aeronautical Science Program. They gave him the credits for what he had flown but made him take a class that was like a check ride to varify that he could fly. [/ QUOTE ] Uh huh. Transition course. Just like I posted earlier in this thread.

January 26th, 2004, 14:03	#24
ERAU_Intern Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Knoxville, Maryland Posts: 244	Re: Early Decision Let me interject with some "experience based" input. The "Transition" courses that RiddlePilot speaks of are no laughing matter. I took them, and have a few extra gray hairs to prove it. If you intend on getting an AS degree from ERAU PRC, then get some refresher training prior to entering the Riddle flight program. Oh, and check any ego you may have developed at the door. I neglected to do either, and my A$$ was put in check in short order. Good luck whatever your decision may be. Just remember to arm yourself with as much information as you can before you "jump in".

January 27th, 2004, 14:28	#25
project7 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 430	Re: Early Decision What most people don't realize is that there is a HUGE price difference between distance learning and on-campus degrees. If you are not planning on the Aeronautical Science degree (flying in riddle planes) then save your money. The distance learning degrees are actually a good deal, and you can get your CFI and instruct while you're at it. Paying a ton more money just to live in Preskit and fly at North-aire would be a total waste.

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